View Full Version : Long Position on Silver and Gold?
Pages :
1
2
[
3]
4
5
6
7
8
9
So....did you buy the dip? Or did you decide to wait for a better price?
Silver is back up over $20. One of these dips will be the last one, don't miss it.
http://www.kitco.com/market/
HoneyBadger
08-06-2014, 10:14
Yeah, I got a few OPM rounds at $20.50ea
Edit for accuracy: Shipping was USPS Priority. $8.95 for the whole order
So....did you buy the dip? Or did you decide to wait for a better price?
Silver is back up over $20. One of these dips will be the last one, don't miss it.
http://www.kitco.com/market/
Bobbled and missed it. 8 more days until the fix is gone. Where O where will the POS go?
A friend owed me money and instead of cash, gave me a check. I also bought some ammo. Else I would have bought a roll of ASE at the show.
Yeah, I got a few OPM rounds at $20.50ea
Excellent!
Bobbled and missed it. 8 more days until the fix is gone. Where O where will the POS go?
A friend owed me money and instead of cash, gave me a check. I also bought some ammo. Else I would have bought a roll of ASE at the show.
Ammo and reloading powder is a better short term investment than silver right now, depending on what the future holds ammo could be the best long term investment too.
HoneyBadger
08-07-2014, 16:08
Back below $20...
Yeah, I got a few OPM rounds at $20.50ea
plus shipping?
HoneyBadger
08-07-2014, 17:36
plus shipping?
Yes, sorry. I added that to my original post.
HoneyBadger
08-08-2014, 09:30
Still under 20...
Question for the ill-informed: Is there any reason the POS would drop after the fix is gone?
sellersm
08-08-2014, 10:06
I don't believe the fix will be 'gone'. It's being replaced with software, and those that control/own it will make a ton of money by 'skimming' off of each transaction!
I don't believe the fix will be 'gone'. It's being replaced with software, and those that control/own it will make a ton of money by 'skimming' off of each transaction!
Pretty much just like the movie OfficeSpace
HoneyBadger
08-08-2014, 12:26
I don't believe the fix will be 'gone'. It's being replaced with software, and those that control/own it will make a ton of money by 'skimming' off of each transaction!
Valid point... so will anything change?
And yes. 100% Office Space.
sellersm
08-08-2014, 12:48
I doubt much will change. Ups and downs will continue. Silver will probably be positioned as "the poor man's gold", so I guess the price won't rise too catastrophic.
Silver is back under $20, are you on it?
HoneyBadger
08-13-2014, 20:09
I'm into it as much as I can be. if I won the lottery, I might buy a few dozen monster boxes or something... lol
POS hovering just over $19.50 earlier. Down .40. The POS charts look like a bouncy ball between 19.50 and 19.60 - 19.70 since the new fix went in.
Picked up some more rounds from Provident. Missed the early 19.44 low, but happy with the price.
POS hovering just over $19.50 earlier. Down .40. The POS charts look like a bouncy ball between 19.50 and 19.60 - 19.70 since the new fix went in.
Picked up some more rounds from Provident. Missed the early 19.44 low, but happy with the price.
Have you had good luck with Provident? Over multiple transactions? I've read mixed reviews with regards to lengthy shipping delays and messed up orders, otherwise I would try them as they always beat apmex et al on pricing.
Have you had good luck with Provident? Over multiple transactions? I've read mixed reviews with regards to lengthy shipping delays and messed up orders, otherwise I would try them as they always beat apmex et al on pricing.
Zero issues so far. This will be my third transaction with them.
I always do the cash price and send a check. They do hold for 5-7 days but I'm not in any hurry. You can do wire transfer for larger amounts and I think if you call them, they can set you up with an ACH option so you get cash price but next day shipping.
Zero issues so far. This will be my third transaction with them.
I always do the cash price and send a check. They do hold for 5-7 days but I'm not in any hurry. You can do wire transfer for larger amounts and I think if you call them, they can set you up with an ACH option so you get cash price but next day shipping.
Thanks for the review. I don't mind waiting a week either. I like the ACH option too. I'll call them tomorrow to find out about that.
sellersm
08-17-2014, 12:33
I've had good results with Provident as well. Sometimes shipping took a while, but that was when everything was in demand and the mint was behind in delivering. Lately I've had no issues.
Provident has a good reputation.
HoneyBadger
08-17-2014, 15:23
I haven't dealt directly with provident, but I bought provident rounds through another supplier. Cash price and sending a check is the way to go for me.
Thanks for the review. I don't mind waiting a week either. I like the ACH option too. I'll call them tomorrow to find out about that.
Let me know what you find out on the ACH option. I wouldn't mind using that other than the check requirement gives me a bit of an impulse buffer.
cableguy11
08-17-2014, 20:34
I will chime in here....Never had a problem with Provident over several transactions. I do the same as HB check and wait. I also do the same with JMBullion....same there no problems.
Another dip below $19.50 this morning.
Meanwhile, food costs continue to rise. Are you buying canned food in bulk when it is on sale to make up for the reduced amount of food you'll be able to afford in the future?
Oil dipped below $96 this morning too, kinda funny that oil would go down in the face of ISIL, Hamas/Israel and Ukraine/Russia events.
Another dip below $19.50 this morning.
Meanwhile, food costs continue to rise. Are you buying canned food in bulk when it is on sale to make up for the reduced amount of food you'll be able to afford in the future?
Oil dipped below $96 this morning too, kinda funny that oil would go down in the face of ISIL, Hamas/Israel and Ukraine/Russia events.
Yeah, it's taking a dive.
ISIL is selling oil on the black market, perhaps that's affecting the price?
Yeah, it's taking a dive.
ISIL is selling oil on the black market, perhaps that's affecting the price?
I don't think ISIL selling oil is impacting the market, the Sauds could easyily undercut them, I could be wrong though. The last I heard ISIL was sabotaging the pipelines and ISIL does not have the expertise to fix them, especially this quickly. ISIL is probably murdering all the oil field guys anyway.
4runner freak
08-19-2014, 12:09
I know that I am new to the thread, but what are your thoughts on Silver Eagles vs. other less known rounds?
I bought some Eagles privately, but have been given recommendations to stick with eagles, as they will be much easier to sell if/when needed(less easy to fake, more recognizable).
Am I being too picky/protective?
Do any of you buy privately? How do you verify other rounds?
I know that I am new to the thread, but what are your thoughts on Silver Eagles vs. other less known rounds?
I bought some Eagles privately, but have been given recommendations to stick with eagles, as they will be much easier to sell if/when needed(less easy to fake, more recognizable).
Am I being too picky/protective?
Do any of you buy privately? How do you verify other rounds?
Stick with the eagles, you're doing fine. Picky is good, if I lived on the west coast I might suggest mixing some Chinese Pandas in there.
If I was going to buy private I wouldn't buy from a stranger but I haven't bought privately.
All of mine have been individual purchase. I take my time and research ahead of time how to spot the fakes but the price I paid reflects the added risk and time.
Just an aside, oil lost $1.93 today, down to $94.57.
Provident has private mint "Morgan" dollars for .29 over spot through Sunday.
http://www.providentmetals.com/morgan-dollar-1-oz-silver-round.html
beast556
08-20-2014, 19:27
.29 cents over spot is very tempting. How are there shipping prices???
Aloha_Shooter
08-20-2014, 20:29
$5.95 for orders under $250, $8.95 for orders $250-$499.99, $11.95 for orders $500-$4999.99, free for orders over $5000.
These aren't real Morgan dollars, they're 0.999 fine 1 oz rounds stamped like Morgan dollars.
Thanks for the heads up.
Gold and silver are down on the world spot, we'll see what happens when New York spot gets going.
Batteriesnare
08-21-2014, 09:11
Just posted 200 oz for sale in the trading post! Get it while its low!
sellersm
08-21-2014, 11:31
May not be the most trusted source, but the message is clear: buy physical metals! http://srsroccoreport.com/former-mob-boss-tells-cnbc-not-to-trust-wall-street-buy-physical-gold-silver/former-mob-boss-tells-cnbc-not-to-trust-wall-street-buy-physical-gold-silver/
Are you buying this dip?
http://www.kitco.com/market/
USD is way up.
http://finviz.com/futures.ashx
hghclsswhitetrsh
09-04-2014, 13:08
Roberth what do you think of fractional gold?
Great-Kazoo
09-04-2014, 13:13
Roberth what do you think of fractional gold?
You have an in with a dentist ?
I like fractional gold. It is easier to carry than its equivalent in silver and easier to trade with than a full ounce for bigger ticket items. The negatives are the extra premium on it and a number of people do not think it has the upside that silver has.
sellersm
09-04-2014, 13:15
I like fractional gold. It is easier to carry than its equivalent in silver and easier to trade with than a full ounce for bigger ticket items. The negatives are the extra premium on it and a number of people do not think it has the upside that silver has.
^This.
Are you buying this dip?
http://www.kitco.com/market/
USD is way up.
http://finviz.com/futures.ashx
Are you?
Seems your alert is set under 19 like mine...
I just got my last 20oz in the mail a few days ago.
I get it when I can but my money is finite unlike the government.
Silver is down a little more on the World Spot.
Do any of you guys have insurance on any of your metals? The standard policy only covers $1,000 or less for metals I believe.
HoneyBadger
09-04-2014, 19:15
Do any of you guys have insurance on any of your metals? The standard policy only covers $1,000 or less for metals I believe.
Yes.
HoneyBadger
09-04-2014, 19:16
I get it when I can but my money is finite unlike the government.
Silver is down a little more on the World Spot.
Yeah, I'm done buying for a while. As of yesterday, we are now a single income family.
Yeah, I'm done buying for a while. As of yesterday, we are now a single income family.
What happened? Layoff?
^^ I'm in the same boat honey badger, wife now takes care of the baby full time. If silver drops to $18 or lower I will buy.
^^ I'm in the same boat honey badger, wife now takes care of the baby full time. If silver drops to $18 or lower I will buy.
I will be too in 3 weeks. Due date is Sept 26. Luckily the wife doesn't make a lot, but lost income is lost income... :(
I will be too in 3 weeks. Due date is Sept 26. Luckily the wife doesn't make a lot, but lost income is lost income... :(
I have seen a tv special where they showed a couple that was busting their tails that they were actually better off both financially and emotionally with one of them not working 2-3 jobs and instead staying home and taking care of the kids.
Certainly,. if you are a highly paid professional this isn't applicable.
I'm trying to make enough money that my wife can quit working. 1) She deserves it. 2) I think we'd be able to live on less money if she didn't have to work.
sellersm
09-05-2014, 14:35
We've been a 1 income family for many years.
Sent from my fat fingers using Tapatalk
Great-Kazoo
09-05-2014, 15:30
I have seen a tv special where they showed a couple that was busting their tails that they were actually better off both financially and emotionally with one of them not working 2-3 jobs and instead staying home and taking care of the kids.
Certainly,. if you are a highly paid professional this isn't applicable.
doesn't matter how much you make. Day / after school care is more than some folks make. Maybe EVERYONE SHOULD BE ASKING FOR $15 . Should i quit my parts job, get a raise of $4.50 per hour by flipping burgers, mmmmmmmmmmmm
We're a 1 income family. ammo, components & PM's are on the buy list.
BigNick73
09-05-2014, 20:28
doesn't matter how much you make. Day / after school care is more than some folks make. Maybe EVERYONE SHOULD BE ASKING FOR $15 . Should i quit my parts job, get a raise of $4.50 per hour by flipping burgers, mmmmmmmmmmmm
We're a 1 income family. ammo, components & PM's are on the buy list.
Ours would be $700 a month ($35 a day) if I worked a normal 9 to 5. And that is pretty cheap from what we found when looking, highest was around $1200 a month ($60 a day). With my shift work type schedule she only has to go a couple days a week. If one of us was making minimum wage or near it it would make 0 sense to pay for day care.
Our baby sitter is free. Don't know what we'd do without that.
4runner freak
09-05-2014, 21:16
Our little one(pre-K) is $139/wk and our 2nd grader is $81/wk for after school. It is financially a benefit, but we are thinking that the schools in general aren't a good thing. We are considering more and more the option of homeschooling. Unfortunately, we are on my wife's benefits and she makes a good salary.
HoneyBadger
09-05-2014, 21:21
^^ I'm in the same boat honey badger, wife now takes care of the baby full time. If silver drops to $18 or lower I will buy.
Yep. Mrs. HB is home with HB Jr now. Unfortunately, she was bringing in about half the pay. It was by choice, and it was the right choice. At first, I was very hesitant, but now I am 100% sure it was the right choice.
Yep. Mrs. HB is home with HB Jr now. Unfortunately, she was bringing in about half the pay. It was by choice, and it was the right choice. At first, I was very hesitant, but now I am 100% sure it was the right choice.
Right on!!! :) [Beer]
Something else to read.
Today's Federal Reserve Note "dollar" will buy you 5/100 of a one Silver Eagle. On a good day.
http://www.woodpilereport.com/html/index-386.htm
Rare is the person not charmed by silver's tactile appeal, its seductive presence and satisfying heft, its subtlety hued luster. Silver is said to be the money of gentlemen. It's also the money of bus drivers and motel desk clerks who want a reliable store of value as a hedge against the machinations of paper manipulators, or an economic calamity, a Mad Max societal collapse or even a disastrous war. Platinum or gold or palladium bullion are too concentrated in value to be practical for Joe Everyman in such settings. He's looking to buy supplies, not the truck they came in. In fact, one ounce silver coins may be the top end for common use in "interesting" times.
beast556
09-08-2014, 21:22
Im wating for 15$ an oz. Im thinking 6 months fingers crossed.
Great-Kazoo
09-08-2014, 21:31
Something else to read.
http://www.woodpilereport.com/html/index-386.htm
Sounds familiar, for us it's something other than paper as currency . Will we need who knows? See what happens after Coach Obama gives his tv address wed evening. Another line in the sand or giving away the whole shooting match ?
Another down day today, maybe it will get into the 18s.
HoneyBadger
09-09-2014, 12:41
Currently 18.95...
kidicarus13
09-09-2014, 13:22
Not a big fan of PM's but I'm starting to get interested at $18.XX
Great-Kazoo
09-09-2014, 14:01
Not a big fan of PM's but I'm starting to get interested at $18.XX
Finding a local outlet for spot? + $2-3 would be nice. I don't like using a CC or having a paper trail.
World Spot Silver down to $18.81, oil is down to $90.67.
4runner freak
09-11-2014, 11:31
Silver is down to $18.59, currently!
HoneyBadger
09-11-2014, 11:41
Seriously... wtf?
Artificially being held down. If allowed to go up, [panic]
http://www.barnhardt.biz/2014/08/30/big-fat-told-ya-so-central-banks-trading-manipulating-all-markets/
As I have been screeching for years, it’s all fake. See Part 7 of my Economics Presentation on YouTube, beginning at the 8:30 mark. There are no real people left in the markets. It’s all a facade, and behind there is nothing but Central Banks and computer algorithms, propping up whatever prices the oligarchs want propped-up (like the EQUITIES MARKETS), and suppressing what they want suppressed (like the METALS). Oh, and there are yet a dwindling handful of imbecilic stooges and the used-car salesmen brokers who lack the integrity to tell their clients the truth, both hoping to milk and pimp just a few more bucks out of the orgiastic abomination.
BUY!
Bought earlier this month than I had hoped but wanted to catch this dip.
Didn't catch the bottom, didn't even catch the mini dip that just occurred (ordered a few hours ago) but this is the lowest I've gotten (by .15) since starting to stack in April.
HoneyBadger
09-11-2014, 16:01
Artificially being held down. If allowed to go up, [panic]
http://www.barnhardt.biz/2014/08/30/big-fat-told-ya-so-central-banks-trading-manipulating-all-markets/
BUY!
But why would they allow it to go up? Would would they stop suppressing it? What do they have to gain? The dollar has everything to lose.
But why would they allow it to go up? Would would they stop suppressing it? What do they have to gain? The dollar has everything to lose.
They will be unable to suppress it indefinitely.
Once the dominoes start to fall and bank customer/stock market trader panic sets in, PM value will go through the roof - not that I would ever trade it back for dollars.
sellersm
09-19-2014, 09:32
Silver spot has dipped below $18 this AM. Keep an eye open!!
HoneyBadger
09-19-2014, 09:36
Silver spot has dipped below $18 this AM. Keep an eye open!!
Just saw this. It's currently 17.98 Wish I had a bunch of money to dump into it...
sellersm
09-19-2014, 09:54
Just saw this. It's currently 17.98 Wish I had a bunch of money to dump into it...
Same here...
Sent from my fat fingers using Tapatalk
I wish I could play too but I have other obligations.
We can't print money like FedRes/FedGov anytime we want something.
I've already blown my wad at nearly every dip since April.
[Bang]
Too many other obligations at the moment, not the least of which is the rest of my 2013 tax payment due in three weeks.
68Charger
09-19-2014, 11:17
They will be unable to suppress it indefinitely.
Once the dominoes start to fall and bank customer/stock market trader panic sets in, PM value will go through the roof - not that I would ever trade it back for dollars.
but it will at least retain it's value against other currency- you may not want to get back into $US, but whatever currency replaces it as the world standard.
"They" will no longer be controlling the price, since their control is based on $US- so PM values should rise in value to other currencies as well, right?
sellersm
09-19-2014, 11:41
"They" will no longer be controlling the price, since their control is based on $US- so PM values should rise in value to other currencies as well, right?
Don't think so, I believe it will always be controlled, no matter what the world currency/petro-dollar ends up being. At least that's what I've heard from some folks... Time will tell, though. For the short-term, owning PMs is a good idea. In the very long run, nothing will have value except for whatever the one world 'currency' ends up being. As it says in the Bible, "they'll throw their gold & silver on the ground cuz it's worthless" (I'm highly paraphrasing there).
Great-Kazoo
09-19-2014, 12:12
Don't think so, I believe it will always be controlled, no matter what the world currency/petro-dollar ends up being. At least that's what I've heard from some folks... Time will tell, though. For the short-term, owning PMs is a good idea. In the very long run, nothing will have value except for whatever the one world 'currency' ends up being. As it says in the Bible, "they'll throw their gold & silver on the ground cuz it's worthless" (I'm highly paraphrasing there).
The only thing i'll throw on the ground is spent brass.
68Charger
09-19-2014, 12:30
The only thing i'll throw on the ground is spent brass.
another form of precious metal... [Beer]
I'm waiting to see what amount our insurance company will cover for the birth of my daughter (born on 9/9)... Right now we're looking at a sizable 5 figure bill or I'd be buying some this weekend.
49709
Picking up some AE's tonight.
Contacted NTR metals today they do not have a retail store anymore, I like there 1 and 10 oz bars and was hoping not to pay a high premium.
At these prices I'm ready to dump some cash into silver. I don't feel like going through 15 pages, so anyone care to point me in the direction of silver closest to spot, or if anyone feels like dumping some of theirs, let me know
hghclsswhitetrsh
09-19-2014, 17:04
Mr silver might be there at tanner this weekend. But I highly doubt it as low as the price is. I honestly do the eBay deal cause the shop I use to use charges +$6 over spot for eagles. They used to be $3 over.
4runner freak
09-19-2014, 17:11
Mr silver might be there at tanner this weekend. But I highly doubt it as low as the price is. I honestly do the eBay deal cause the shop I use to use charges +$6 over spot for eagles. They used to be $3 over.
http://www.jmbullion.com is $3.07(for 20 - 99) over spot and free shipping.
Aloha_Shooter
09-19-2014, 17:47
I'm waiting to see what amount our insurance company will cover for the birth of my daughter (born on 9/9)... Right now we're looking at a sizable 5 figure bill or I'd be buying some this weekend.
49709
Big congrats! Obviously worth more than any amount of silver ... and good thing because she'll cost you plenty of gold and gray hairs ... [LOL]
beast556
09-19-2014, 21:03
Im pretty sure we will be seeing 15$ silver soon and then down to the 10$-12$ mark. Im in big when it goes below 15$.
kidicarus13
09-19-2014, 21:14
Im pretty sure we will be seeing 15$ silver soon
Because...?
http://www.jmbullion.com is $3.07(for 20 - 99) over spot and free shipping.
Silver.com has consistently been lower on ase lately. Look at https://comparesilverprices.com/
Currently 2.37 over spot
Sent from my subconscious mind.
sportbikeco
09-20-2014, 10:17
$3 over spot (+15% over spot). Damn seems like a crap gamble. Hope you guys buying have 0 debt or it would be really goofy to be buying silver lol.
sellersm
09-20-2014, 10:20
$3 over spot (+15% over spot). Damn seems like a crap gamble. Hope you guys buying have 0 debt or it would be really goofy to be buying silver lol.
Please explain the comment about debt...
sportbikeco
09-20-2014, 10:38
That extra liquid cash would be better spent on debt you are paying interest on then on silver you are paying a premium to buy (which may or may not go up in value, which is going to have to be 15% to break even). Put that money on your car or house note.
ChunkyMonkey
09-20-2014, 11:24
$3 over spot (+15% over spot). Damn seems like a crap gamble. Hope you guys buying have 0 debt or it would be really goofy to be buying silver lol.
Debt free mostly.. Few helocs on rental properties for the tax write off. Not all debts are bad. Debt on depreciating items such as car loan, personal item installment, and revolving credits are bad most of the time. The exception would be taking out those debts during hyper inflation era.
HoneyBadger
09-20-2014, 11:32
silver you are paying a premium to buy (which may or may not go up in value, which is going to have to be 15% to break even).
This is irrelevant. The premium will remain and be passed on to another buyer whom you sell to
I understand of course that a 15% premium on a $20 ASE is less than a 15% premium on a $40 ASE, but at that point, your investment has brought you a good return and the you end up losing less than half of your premium per coin.
HoneyBadger
09-20-2014, 11:43
Also, most of my debt is "good" debt. We only have one car loan (and we're paying it off fast) and no revolving debt. I just use my credit card for the points and pay it off on the 1st of every month.
ChunkyMonkey
09-20-2014, 11:49
I can tell you this much, if you set aside $100 or $200 a month to buy silver.. you'll get used to it and wont miss the $200. On the flip side, most people spend that same $100-200 on food, beer, any other non tangible items in a heartbeat. Save up in silver, dont worry about whether its a good investment.. because it is NOT! It's an insurance.
Hell how many of us paying that much in insurances monthly and dont expect to get a penny in return?
sellersm
09-20-2014, 12:15
I can tell you this much, if you set aside $100 or $200 a month to buy silver.. you'll get used to it and wont miss the $200. On the flip side, most people spend that same $100-200 on food, beer, any other non tangible items in a heartbeat. Save up in silver, dont worry about whether its a good investment.. because it is NOT! It's an insurance.
Hell how many of us paying that much in insurances monthly and dont expect to get a penny in return?
This. How many times must we say it? It's NOT an investment.
And you're fooling yourself if you think being debt free means anything when it comes to "owning" things. You can lose everything in the stroke of a pen of a newly signed "law" or executive order. Heck, in these times, any of the TLA agencies can confiscate whatever they want...
Sent from my fat fingers using Tapatalk
HoneyBadger
09-20-2014, 12:15
I can tell you this much, if you set aside $100 or $200 a month to buy silver.. you'll get used to it and wont miss the $200. On the flip side, most people spend that same $100-200 on food, beer, any other non tangible items in a heartbeat. Save up in silver, dont worry about whether its a good investment.. because it is NOT! It's an insurance.
Hell how many of us paying that much in insurances monthly and dont expect to get a penny in return?
Very true.
My silver is a hedge against inflation and for SHTF.
Regardless of debt load, investments in PM should be ~10% of your total investment portfolio. If I lost EVERYTHING on paper, my debt would go away but I would still have my PM's, guns, ammo, preps and my dignity.
That extra liquid cash would be better spent on debt you are paying interest on then on silver you are paying a premium to buy (which may or may not go up in value, which is going to have to be 15% to break even). Put that money on your car or house note.
My silver is a hedge against inflation and for SHTF.
Regardless of debt load, investments in PM should be ~10% of your total investment portfolio. If I lost EVERYTHING on paper, my debt would go away but I would still have my PM's, guns, ammo, preps and my dignity.
+1 I do have some Ag and Au from when i was little kid collecting coins. It is a great way to hedge against inflation being fact that gold and gold etfs are negative beta.
I also agree about 15% prem. I don't think the coin collector, precious metal places will give me 15% prem for a SELL order either.
I have nothing against Mercantile Exchange,CME guys, PM investors. I just prefer investing in securities during BULL AND BEAR market.
Im pretty sure we will be seeing 15$ silver soon and then down to the 10$-12$ mark. Im in big when it goes below 15$.
Due to rising in USD respect to EUR, YEN, and some other currencies, we might have more dip in some of commodities and PM. I dont know about 10-12 , but $15 Ag is possible after fed stop the easing.
The more it goes down fake or not. The more I can buy with my fiat currency promises.
Ugh... should I buy today or wait till tomorrow... LOL
why not buy 1/2 today and 1/2 tomorrow?
why not buy 1/2 today and 1/2 tomorrow? Good idea. But I don't make these big purchases like all these high rollers so I would get hit with 2 shipping fees. This is just my monthly buy.
Good thing I didn't buy 10 minutes ago it is cheaper now. :-D
Maybe I should wait until 1/10 oz eagles are $100
The more it goes down fake or not. The more I can buy with my fiat currency promises.
Yes, because we're smart and take possession immediately.
eh, screw it... It dipped below $17 an ounce, got some ASEs for $20.13 each.
Ag has dropped on average over 8 cents a day in September with no sign of slowing. Anybody want to call the next bottom? I've heard rumblings of $15/oz.
the faster it drops, the quicker I'll be buying. Especially with Ebola on our doorstep!
Ag has dropped on average over 8 cents a day in September with no sign of slowing. Anybody want to call the next bottom? I've heard rumblings of $15/oz.
the faster it drops, the quicker I'll be buying. Especially with Ebola on our doorstep!
I buy a certain percentage of my paycheck. While it goes down I have been happy to get more PMs for my dollar. It is almost like it is "On sale".
If I have extra money I'll buy an extra ASE or AGE while they are cheap.
I still feel better socking away money in PMs than floating around as electrons in a 401k or IRA. BUT I have both PM's and retirement accounts. At first sign of real trouble, I'll borrow from 401 and buy PMs as a contingency. As for PMs tanking and being worth nothing? ya right.
Fentonite
10-01-2014, 01:34
Just bought some of these. I usually stick to more common stuff, but these look interesting. And under $19 (with free delivery) for a 1oz .999 gov't minted coin is tough to sneeze at.
http://www.jmbullion.com/2014-horse-privy-british-silver-britannia-lot-10/
of note: APMEX, usually a reasonably priced vendor, is selling this coin for $34.75 right now: http://www.ebay.com/itm/2014-Great-Britain-1-oz-Silver-Britannia-Year-of-the-Horse-Privy-SKU-81184-/111340033885
RonMexico
10-01-2014, 04:01
eh, screw it... It dipped below $17 an ounce, got some ASEs for $20.13 each.
Purchased a few myself for a flat $20 OTD. The guy said a lot of people are buying it up, so to come back soon if I wanted more. This may have been his sales tactic but I think if silver goes below $15, there won't be much silver left.
Purchased a few myself for a flat $20 OTD. The guy said a lot of people are buying it up, so to come back soon if I wanted more. This may have been his sales tactic but I think if silver goes below $15, there won't be much silver left.
I would like to see $15/oz. I hope it times itself to tax day or to work bonus day. :-)
Just bought some of these. I usually stick to more common stuff, but these look interesting. And under $19 (with free delivery) for a 1oz .999 gov't minted coin is tough to sneeze at.
http://www.jmbullion.com/2014-horse-privy-british-silver-britannia-lot-10/
of note: APMEX, usually a reasonably priced vendor, is selling this coin for $34.75 right now: http://www.ebay.com/itm/2014-Great-Britain-1-oz-Silver-Britannia-Year-of-the-Horse-Privy-SKU-81184-/111340033885
Thanks for posting the brittanias. That's worth a closer look.
I buy a certain percentage of my paycheck. While it goes down I have been happy to get more PMs for my dollar. It is almost like it is "On sale".
If I have extra money I'll buy an extra ASE or AGE while they are cheap.
I still feel better socking away money in PMs than floating around as electrons in a 401k or IRA. BUT I have both PM's and retirement accounts. At first sign of real trouble, I'll borrow from 401 and buy PMs as a contingency. As for PMs tanking and being worth nothing? ya right.
Agreed. And my paycheck is stretching further with silver. Can't say that about many other things right now that are tangible.
sellersm
10-01-2014, 11:50
According to this article & charts, silver may not hit $15, but I think we're real close to the bottom... I'd suggest you buy it quickly if at all possible!
http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/Entries/2014/10/1_Final_Push_Down_In_Silver_To_Set_Up_Massive_Surg e_Above_$100.html
Anybody else get in on the brittanias? They're a buck cheaper than the AE.
OT - Oli is under $90 a barrel. :) Hope we see that at the pumps soon, more money for silver.
I believe I saw gas at $3.05 at the costco off I25 and highway 7. It's $3.24 around me
I'm wanting to buy silver for cash. Is there any local places or folks on here that have some to tell or want to score CC points for the Britannias or something similar.
Firehaus
10-02-2014, 09:09
According to this article & charts, silver may not hit $15, but I think we're real close to the bottom... I'd suggest you buy it quickly if at all possible!
http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/Entries/2014/10/1_Final_Push_Down_In_Silver_To_Set_Up_Massive_Surg e_Above_$100.html
I read the article and dug into the historical data of the 1980 spike. Wasn't it mainly do to the attempted cornering of the silver market by the Hunt brothers?
Is it wise to use indicators of that time period for now?
Seriously thinking about buying some.
Sent from my iPhone
sellersm
10-02-2014, 10:01
Buy it now. Keep buying it as you can.
Great-Kazoo
10-02-2014, 10:01
I'm wanting to buy silver for cash. Is there any local places or folks on here that have some to tell or want to score CC points for the Britannias or something similar.
I have a bunch of morgans & liberty / peace dollars sitting here.
Buy it now. Keep buying it as you can.
Yup.
Just be sure you have 1 month food and water set aside for each person under the roof first, have the guns you want, have the ammo you'll need too.
Could not resist any longer.
Picked up 2x 10oz bars from Provident for 363.35 shipped.
Great-Kazoo
10-03-2014, 08:46
Yup.
Just be sure you have 1 month food and water set aside for each person under the roof first, have the guns you want, have the ammo you'll need too.
6 is better. Enough fuel to refill your vehicles tank 1-2x.
sellersm
10-07-2014, 09:11
Jim Willie predicts that China will be setting its own gold price soon (basically double the current price). This will, among other things, expose the fraud of the West. Interesting interview, discusses many relevant topics including how the GLD works and the reduction of inventory:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ro6JUChxtF4
Seems to be hovering in the low $17 range. Buy more this week or wait for it to drop?
FOMC today. I'm watching interest rates, PMs, and the fiat paper markets.
I'm still learning all of this stuff, you might as well join in.
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/fomc.asp
FOMC - The branch of the Federal Reserve Board that determines the direction of monetary policy. The FOMC is composed of the board of governors, which has seven members, and five reserve bank presidents. The president of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York serves continuously, while the presidents of the other reserve banks rotate their service of one-year terms.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-08/dollar-dumps-post-fomc-minutes-stocks-bonds-bullion-bid
Gold, Treasuries, and Stocks are surging after the release of the FOMC minutes suggested The Fed will keep rates lower longer.
Please excuse the hypebole of ZH, the markets are up slightly and USD is down slightly.
I'd be looking for a new version of Quantitative Easing sometime in the near future. I think the USG will be near or at 20T debt by this time next year.
ETA more
http://www.businessinsider.com/fomc-minutes-october-8-2014-10
Great-Kazoo
10-08-2014, 13:18
If anyone is placing an order PM me with details.
DOW is having another down day.b Metals are flat so far. Oil is pushing 85.
HoneyBadger
10-09-2014, 13:28
Natural gas futures are low... I'm doubling down! ;)
Natural gas futures are low... I'm doubling down! ;)
Refritos or navy?
If anyone is placing an order PM me with details.
Maybe next week. I'm waiting out this current swing.
HoneyBadger
10-09-2014, 14:59
Refritos or navy?
UGAZ [Coffee]
Eggysrun
10-09-2014, 20:28
Where would be a good place to buy silver generally in larger volumes? I recently got some inheritence money which I'm spreading out to retirement and other investments, figured I'd ask after skimming through the 64 pages lol
Where would be a good place to buy silver generally in larger volumes? I recently got some inheritence money which I'm spreading out to retirement and other investments, figured I'd ask after skimming through the 64 pages lol
Try these:
Silver.com
Bgasc.com
JM bullion
Compare prices on a few things here:
Comparesilverprices.com
Buy mostly 1 oz rounds and throw in some 10 oz bars. silver eagles are a good way to start.
UGAZ [Coffee]
Excellent! [Beer]
Metals were flat on the World Spot overnight, oil is under $85. I'm wondering if the fiat paper markets will rebound or go lower today.
HoneyBadger
10-10-2014, 11:06
Excellent! [Beer]
Metals were flat on the World Spot overnight, oil is under $85. I'm wondering if the fiat paper markets will rebound or go lower today.
I don't know, but if UGAZ gets below $12.50, I'm buying more. If silver gets below $15 I'm buying more.
As the dollar becomes increasingly worthless, I will place my worth in other things.
^^^ If it gets down that low I will be dumping a lot of money into silver, I'm tempted to buy more now... I'm not sure what I am going to do.
Great-Kazoo
10-10-2014, 11:55
I don't know, but if UGAZ gets below $12.50, I'm buying more. If silver gets below $15 I'm buying more.
As the dollar becomes increasingly worthless, I will place my worth in other things.
I suggest ammo (OR) reloading items , food stuffs and ammo.
We're teetering on the edge of another 1929 and or 1989 collapse. Stocks are roller coasting , petroleum is down per bbl while pump prices stay (why) in the mid $3. range . Food prices have gone nothing but up.
Ebola seems to be popping up in densely populated / urban areas, yet no ban on flights from the dark continent.
If we leave the local area, we have more than 1 firearm to get us back to home base. It's not if it will happen, but when it will happen. YMMV
I suggest ammo (OR) reloading items , food stuffs and ammo.
...
If we leave the local area, we have more than 1 firearm to get us back to home base. It's not if it will happen, but when it will happen. YMMV
I have seriously changed how far away i go from home base and for how long in recent months. We also travel with more than enough to take care of ourselves to get us home.
HoneyBadger
10-10-2014, 13:06
I suggest ammo (OR) reloading items , food stuffs and ammo.
To be fair, I have also invested as much as I can afford to in ammo, reloading components, long-lasting food, home protection methods, and disaster preps such as plastic sheeting, good masks, gloves, etc. Just bought a decent radio. I'd really like to get another G19 to travel with. Similar to your and rbeau's comments, we have also changed the way we travel and the things we travel with if we are going more than a 2 hour drive from home. I had a very hard time dealing with the limitations of flying commercially back to Michigan 2 weekends ago. I felt very naked and helpless.
I haven't been to the office for nearly two weeks. Working at home is great and I especially like it now.
I haven't been to the office for nearly two weeks. Working at home is great and I especially like it now.
I need my wife to be able to do that. I only work 10 - 15 minutes away, but she has a long commute. Pretty much everything she does can be on the computer but they won't let her.
She got her carry license last year... still trying to find her a good carry revolver (it is what she wants), but it hasn't been real high on the pri list.
I don't need to go far from the home, so I don't. If I were to be more than 1 hour drive from home, it is more than my carry pistol that would come with me (Zombie Exsanguinators).
Rooskibar03
10-10-2014, 14:14
Me thinks this is the perfect time to be moving out of the city.
Wife and I both work 5 min from home. It's nice.
Me thinks this is the perfect time to be moving out of the city.
I wish. Perhaps when the current immense hurdle that I am trying to get through now is over and the egg donor and the system successfully turn me into only a paycheck I will be able to. But then I will be a whole lot poorer, and will probably need to move closer to Colfax Ave.
On a different note, silver is pretty much flat, I hope it goes down a little more before my next paycheck.
hollohas
10-10-2014, 14:53
Continuing the off topic portion of the discussion...I used to fly every week. I was out of state 120 days in 2012. A VERY big reason I switched jobs to a local job last year was because I didn't feel comfortable being away from home any more due to the current geopolitical climate. Being stranded in another state due to some major "event" wasn't a risk I didn't want to take any longer.
On topic, I can't believe silver is still down. Everyone should take advantage of the current "sale". I prefer to buy local for cash. I pay a bit more over spot (a little less than $1 more for Eagles) than the online dealers like JM, but I don't want any transaction record. I consider that extra dollar an extra level of insurance to stay anonymous.
Great-Kazoo
10-10-2014, 14:58
Continuing the off topic portion of the discussion...I used to fly every week. I was out of state 120 days in 2012. A VERY big reason I switched jobs to a local job last year was because I didn't feel comfortable being away from home any more due to the current geopolitical climate. Being stranded in another state due to some major "event" wasn't a risk I didn't want to take any longer.
On topic, I can't believe silver is still down. Everyone should take advantage of the current "sale". I prefer to buy local for cash. I pay a bit more over spot (a little less than $1 more for Eagles) than the online dealers like JM, but I don't want any transaction record. I consider that extra dollar an extra level of insurance to stay anonymous.
PWT's that way ^^ pal.
Agree 110% Our CC's get used on travel . Maybe the occasional brownells purchase, that's it.
I prefer to buy local for cash. I pay a bit more over spot (a little less than $1 more for Eagles) than the online dealers like JM, but I don't want any transaction record. I consider that extra dollar an extra level of insurance to stay anonymous.
Agree 100%.
I understand the concern and worries over the online transactions. But the way I look at it, I've completed quite a few Form 4473s, so they will be kicking my door in first in my hood anyway. (I'll be gone by then, hopefully) Also, just the fact that anybody has posted in this thread means that it's likely NSA has assigned a precious metals metatag to their "file". Oh, you stopped at a coin shop with your cell phone on? And you did that how many times? It's all recorded in your digital fingerprint.
They will be going after the big holders of precious metals first. There are MANY people that routinely buy in amounts >>$10K and have to report to the IRS. Those people will get their doors kicked in first in the event of confiscation. That will give others time to hide what they have. In any event, successful confiscation is unlikely. There is just far too much out there and too few people to collect. There will be some dopes that turn it over like the CT gun registration. But that's where it will die, if it ever happens.
...
Also, just the fact that anybody has posted in this thread means that it's likely NSA has assigned a precious metals metatag to their "file". Oh, you stopped at a coin shop with your cell phone on? And you did that how many times? It's all recorded in your digital fingerprint.
...
Bbb...bbbuttt, it is illegal to conduct surveillance on US Citizens without a warrant. I know I take 3+ CBTs a year about it. LOL [dig]
[tinhat]
sellersm
10-11-2014, 09:18
Great quote from this article:
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves”
http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/Entries/2014/10/11_Still_Worried_About_The_Gold_%26_Silver_Smash_-_Just_Read_This.html
Bbb...bbbuttt, it is illegal to conduct surveillance on US Citizens without a warrant. I know I take 3+ CBTs a year about it. LOL [dig]
[tinhat]
Did I hit one of your triggers, LOL?
Great quote from this article:
http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/Entries/2014/10/11_Still_Worried_About_The_Gold_%26_Silver_Smash_-_Just_Read_This.html
Excellent quote. New sig line?
sellersm
10-11-2014, 10:07
Excellent quote. New sig line?
Yep!
blackford76
10-12-2014, 00:38
So, who are the serious silver buyers here? I ask because I have about 300 pounds, yes POUNDS, of silver that I may need to be getting rid of. Where would be a good place to sell that much? I don't want to mess around with a little here, a little there.
Aloha_Shooter
10-12-2014, 04:14
Whoof. While i'd like to buy a little silver, $90K worth is a bit more cash than I have on hand. By "a bit", I mean it like Mel Brooks is a bit funnier than Michael Moore ...
HoneyBadger
10-12-2014, 08:19
So, who are the serious silver buyers here? I ask because I have about 300 pounds, yes POUNDS, of silver that I may need to be getting rid of. Where would be a good place to sell that much? I don't want to mess around with a little here, a little there.
Holy schnikies! I bet any shop in town would love to get their hands on it. I can barely afford to buy a few ounces each month, let alone a few hundred pounds! Good luck.
hghclsswhitetrsh
10-12-2014, 08:24
What form is the 300 pounds in?
GLWS that's a lot of silver to sell, if you go the business route the Irs is going to know about it. Let us know how it turns out.
kidicarus13
10-12-2014, 08:55
Buy low, sell high.
What form is the 300 pounds in?
And do you want me to bring my Chevy so you can count on it actually making it to the destination! [ROFL3]
I would be interested in a small portion of it.
hghclsswhitetrsh
10-12-2014, 09:19
And do you want me to bring my Chevy so you can count on it actually making it to the destination! [ROFL3]
I would be interested in a small portion of it.
I have 3 Chevys so I'm not sure what you're getting at here.
BlasterBob
10-12-2014, 09:49
Buy low, sell high.
Attempt to do this with a firearm and you will get some serious flaming here.[panic]
Rooskibar03
10-12-2014, 09:52
So, who are the serious silver buyers here? I ask because I have about 300 pounds, yes POUNDS, of silver that I may need to be getting rid of. Where would be a good place to sell that much? I don't want to mess around with a little here, a little there.
anyone else thinking group buy?
What form is the 300 pounds in?
British sterling? That'd be about 150 coins.
Buy low, sell high.
This. It's not a great time to unload that investment unless you're needing to pay bills.
Bailey Guns
10-12-2014, 10:18
Attempt to do this with a firearm and you will get some serious flaming here.[panic]
Price gouger, price gouger! :)
I have 3 Chevys so I'm not sure what you're getting at here.
i know, I was adding to your post since blackford is a full on Ford guy. Just giving him a little ribbing
sportbikeco
10-12-2014, 11:18
Buy low, sell high.
Just think, if you bought when this thread was made and sold today you could have made a -40% return.
Eggysrun
10-12-2014, 12:07
So, who are the serious silver buyers here? I ask because I have about 300 pounds, yes POUNDS, of silver that I may need to be getting rid of. Where would be a good place to sell that much? I don't want to mess around with a little here, a little there.
PM sent.
Firehaus
10-12-2014, 12:10
anyone else thinking group buy?
I'm in for an 1/8 - 1/9 of it. 7-8 more people?
Sent from my iPhone
kidicarus13
10-12-2014, 12:27
So do we know price over/under spot or do people just want silver that bad that price doesn't matter?
hghclsswhitetrsh
10-12-2014, 12:39
So do we know price over/under spot or do people just want silver that bad that price doesn't matter?
Or just as important, what form it's in...
Or just as important, what form it's in...
most important..
Firehaus
10-12-2014, 13:24
Of course we need more details and price before competing any transaction. Is there 7-8 other guys that are even interested?
Sent from my iPhone
Eggysrun
10-12-2014, 13:51
Of course we need more details and price before competing any transaction. Is there 7-8 other guys that are even interested?
Sent from my iPhone
I am, I asked him some questions you all pretty much had.
blackford76
10-12-2014, 15:04
What form is the 300 pounds in?
Coins, in sealed treasury boxes.
blackford76
10-12-2014, 15:06
And do you want me to bring my Chevy so you can count on it actually making it to the destination! [ROFL3] So I can load your cheby on my trailer and pull you with the Ford? Seems like extra work, but it wont be the first time hauling a new cheby.[Coffee]
I would be interested in a small portion of it.
hghclsswhitetrsh
10-12-2014, 15:17
Yes I'd be interested in a group buy. Of course they aren't sanctioned by the site anymore but I'd give my email address to discuss off the forum.
blackford76
10-12-2014, 15:26
As of right now, it isn't officially for sale, I'm still weighing options.
That being said, if/when it goes up for sale, I'd much rather deal with the good people here first.
Jumpstart
10-12-2014, 15:33
If so, I'm interested as well.
Rooskibar03
10-12-2014, 15:42
If so, I'm interested as well.
plus 1. (With cash)
I'd be interested as long as they can be authenticated before any exchange.
Great-Kazoo
10-12-2014, 16:54
We have some interested members. I for one have CASH. Depending on condition of coins, are they all ASE's, old dimes, 1/2 dollars etc ?
Aloha_Shooter
10-13-2014, 08:27
Add me to the list if we do it as a group purchase. I can see buying 3 pounds, maybe even up to 15 pounds although I'd have to do some cash shifting, but no way I could handle 300 pounds by myself.
In case anyone is wondering, I want to point out that in terms of PM's, there are only 12 Troy ounces per pound...
With spot around $17, that's right at $200 per troy lb.
4runner freak
10-13-2014, 08:56
We have some interested members. I for one have CASH. Depending on condition of coins, are they all ASE's, old dimes, 1/2 dollars etc ?
X2
I'm interested ~5lbs(with cash), if they are ASE's, or junk silver.
Interested in some also depending on details already asked and if there's room for me on this buy. Also have cash.
Aloha_Shooter
10-13-2014, 11:13
In case anyone is wondering, I want to point out that in terms of PM's, there are only 12 Troy ounces per pound...
With spot around $17, that's right at $200 per troy lb.
Good point, I was thinking in terms of standard English measure ounces. I guess I'm game for up to 30 pounds then.
Great-Kazoo
10-13-2014, 13:39
Good point, I was thinking in terms of standard English measure ounces. I guess I'm game for up to 30 pounds then.
The board member who posted the 300 lbs, should do a mass pm to those of us expressing an interest / cash buyers. Once that's done we should have an e-m addy for him. Keeps everything off the forum. The last few GB's took dive's real fast and did nothing but jam (headaches etc) the mods and site admin guys up.
hghclsswhitetrsh
10-13-2014, 14:04
The board member who posted the 300 lbs, should do a mass pm to those of us expressing an interest / cash buyers. Once that's done we should have an e-m addy for him. Keeps everything off the forum. The last few GB's took dive's real fast and did nothing but jam (headaches etc) the mods and site admin guys up.
Is there an echo in here?
Is there an echo in here?
I don't know, I couldn't hear anybody over the voices in my head.
blackford76
10-13-2014, 15:38
The board member who posted the 300 lbs, should do a mass pm to those of us expressing an interest / cash buyers. Once that's done we should have an e-m addy for him. Keeps everything off the forum. The last few GB's took dive's real fast and did nothing but jam (headaches etc) the mods and site admin guys up.
As of right now, I'm not selling any. I do now know that there is interest, and who is interested. If/When I'm ready to sell, I'll pm you guys with what, how much, etc. I can do this on a member to member basis as not to violate any forum rules. Thank you for the PM's I got, and others posting interest. At least now I know that if I need to sell, it should be pretty easy to unload to deserving people.
Again, thank you.
As of right now, I'm not selling any. I do now know that there is interest, and who is interested. If/When I'm ready to sell, I'll pm you guys with what, how much, etc. I can do this on a member to member basis as not to violate any forum rules. Thank you for the PM's I got, and others posting interest. At least now I know that if I need to sell, it should be pretty easy to unload to deserving people.
Again, thank you.
Please put me on that list as well. I also have a friend stacking cash that would be interested.
Sorry for being late to the party, been out the past week.
BlasterBob
10-13-2014, 16:20
Please include me on the list of potential cash buyers. Thanks.
Look for silver to remain inexpensive.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-14/qe4-countdown-has-begun
Actually, it may well be QE5, or QE6 depending on how one counts Operation Twist and the extension of QE3, but what matters is that the countdown to whatever it is, has begun courtesy of none other than one of the Fed's biggest doves, the head of the Fed which spawned Janet Yellen, San Francisco Fed's John Williams
http://seekingalpha.com/news/2030185-feds-williams-not-averse-to-additional-qe
Interest rates won't be going up any time soon either, FedRes/FedGov cannot print enough fiat to cover the increased costs of maintaining 18T+ in national debt.
If you're feeling froggy this might be a good time to buy paper stocks, just before the next runup to 20K DOW.
JM bullion has about the most decent deal on silver eagles....2.55 over spot with free shipping. If we get a drop back to below 17 I may jump on this one.
Great-Kazoo
10-14-2014, 17:44
Look for silver to remain inexpensive.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-14/qe4-countdown-has-begun
http://seekingalpha.com/news/2030185-feds-williams-not-averse-to-additional-qe
Interest rates won't be going up any time soon either, FedRes/FedGov cannot print enough fiat to cover the increased costs of maintaining 18T+ in national debt.
If you're feeling froggy this might be a good time to buy paper stocks, just before the next runup to 20K DOW.
With 2 days in a row of stocks dropping, i wouldn't be investing in anything paper.
Only paper I would invest in ....Boulder stock
50899
Look for silver to remain inexpensive.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-14/qe4-countdown-has-begun
http://seekingalpha.com/news/2030185-feds-williams-not-averse-to-additional-qe
Interest rates won't be going up any time soon either, FedRes/FedGov cannot print enough fiat to cover the increased costs of maintaining 18T+ in national debt.
If you're feeling froggy this might be a good time to buy paper stocks, just before the next runup to 20K DOW.
I need to keep a closer eye on the 401k and move everything risky into the safety net so it doesn't become another 201k.
roberth, can you just PM me when I need to do that? :D
My 10oz bars should be here before EOW.
mwahaha
Too bad I just wrote a check to uncle sammy and CO state for a combined $4800 for the other half of 2013 "extra" taxes. I coulda used that to prop up the economy instead of some crack ho's nose.
I need to keep a closer eye on the 401k and move everything risky into the safety net so it doesn't become another 201k.
roberth, can you just PM me when I need to do that? :D
Ummm...sure....I slept at a Holiday Inn yesterday. [pick-me]
OtterbatHellcat
10-14-2014, 21:12
Holiday Inn EXPRESS !! YW.
:)
Holiday Inn EXPRESS !! YW.
:)
Thanks man, I woke up in the gutter and all I could see was Holiday Inn. :)
OtterbatHellcat
10-14-2014, 21:18
I hate days like that...or nights, even.
The problem is that I don't drink.
Now I'm seeing oil getting closer to $80 a barrel. What is the break even point for North Dakota oil companies, if OPEC keeps lowering the price of crude oil the smaller operators stateside will have to curtail and/or close operations.
HoneyBadger
10-14-2014, 22:15
The problem is that I don't drink.
Cocaine is a hell of a drug!
Firehaus
10-14-2014, 22:20
Cocaine is a hell of a drug!
FTW!
Sent from my iPhone
Great-Kazoo
10-14-2014, 22:24
Only paper I would invest in ....Boulder stock
50899
ALL RIGHT NOW.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90ahfYmomXw
Great-Kazoo
10-14-2014, 22:34
Thanks man, I woke up in the gutter and all I could see was Holiday Inn. :)
lightweight. You know the event was a good one when you have to pull yourself up to get in to the gutter.
Remember You Ain't Having Fun Till They Dial 911
Now I'm seeing oil getting closer to $80 a barrel. What is the break even point for North Dakota oil companies, if OPEC keeps lowering the price of crude oil the smaller operators stateside will have to curtail and/or close operations.
I'm hoping with a regime change in 3 weeks Both House & Senate Hold O's feet to the fire and this administration tells Opec to pound sand. Their sand. Of course the EPA and every environazi will fight till death objecting to the 3 new refineries we build. But it will be a short fight.
Maybe use their bleached bones for beaver dams.
Aloha_Shooter
10-14-2014, 23:03
Now I'm seeing oil getting closer to $80 a barrel.
Hurts Putin more than it does us. Bonus.
Hurts Putin more than it does us. Bonus.
I know it is hurting Putin but I'm more concerned with our domestic production.
This exact topic is being talking about right now on 630 KHOW.
The 3 Europe stock indices displayed on Kitco were red last night, New York Spot gold and sliver opened flat this morning. We'll see how the day pans out.
I know it is hurting Putin but I'm more concerned with our domestic production.
This exact topic is being talking about right now on 630 KHOW.
The 3 Europe stock indices displayed on Kitco were red last night, New York Spot gold and sliver opened flat this morning. We'll see how the day pans out.
You didn't make the move to 710? I'm back and forth.
This is turning into another PWT.
You didn't make the move to 710? I'm back and forth.
I switch back and forth, since I'm weight training/cardio, working, reloading, cleaning, etc. in the morning I usually stick on one station and it is usually 630 since I listen to Brownie in the afternoon.
The DOW is down 157 points as i type this...interesting since they're talking about QE4 or QE5, maybe they are taking it down now so when QE starts up again they can buy cheaper and run it up to 20K. They is Wall Street and all their dependents in FedGov.
USD composite is down almost 1%, oil is around $82, NASDAQ and S&P are down, Russell appears to be flat.
===========
Edit to add - The DOW lost 300+ points at the open so it is rebounding now.
Great-Kazoo
10-15-2014, 08:49
I switch back and forth, since I'm weight training/cardio, working, reloading, cleaning, etc. in the morning I usually stick on one station and it is usually 630 since I listen to Brownie in the afternoon.
The DOW is down 157 points as i type this...interesting since they're talking about QE4 or QE5, maybe they are taking it down now so when QE starts up again they can buy cheaper and run it up to 20K. They is Wall Street and all their dependents in FedGov.
USD composite is down almost 1%, oil is around $82, NASDAQ and S&P are down, Russell appears to be flat.
===========
Edit to add - The DOW lost 300+ points at the open so it is rebounding now.
The dow has been loosing 300~ every day since last thurs / friday.
The dow has been loosing 300~ every day since last thurs / friday.
We live in interesting times.
Im really trying not to just load up on tangible items right now like PMs, ammo, guns, etc. Better to have that than some numbers printed on a statement that you hope to have access too.
sellersm
10-15-2014, 10:49
This is a good read. Keep one eye on oil prices! And the other eye on China's gold acquisition and forthcoming gold-pricing (as Jim Willie predicted a little while ago)!
http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/Entries/2014/10/14_Here_Is_Chinas_Stunning_Master_Plan_For_Gold,_S ilver_%26_Oil.html
kidicarus13
10-15-2014, 12:52
Im really trying not to just load up on tangible items right now
Why not?
kidicarus13
10-15-2014, 12:55
Good time to buy...
Agreed
DOW has rebounded to -231. PMs are still essentially flat.
hghclsswhitetrsh
10-15-2014, 13:14
Just ordered what I could afford at this time.
Im really trying not to just load up on tangible items right now like PMs, ammo, guns, etc. Better to have that than some numbers printed on a statement that you hope to have access too.
Yeah, this. Ebola is just around the corner so we may as well get some tangible assets in the pantry and safes. I was extrapolating possible infection spreads from the flight info this morning and decided to forego some investing and focus on immediate family protection/supplies etc.
HoneyBadger
10-15-2014, 15:44
This is the most legitimate reason to "bug-in" I've ever had in Colorado. It's been said before, but it's worth saying again: You can't eat gold, silver or lead. This might be a good time to make a costco run... before everyone else does.
This is the most legitimate reason to "bug-in" I've ever had in Colorado. It's been said before, but it's worth saying again: You can't eat gold, silver or lead. This might be a good time to make a costco run... before everyone else does.
Good point, they have large bags of rice and beans and they usually have a decent stock of freeze dried 'survival' food.
Anyone here play the IOS / Android game Plague Inc.? The whole Ebola thing keeps reminding me of the game. :) If you haven't played it, it's a great way to waste some time while traveling or waiting in the car.
Great-Kazoo
10-15-2014, 18:07
This is the most legitimate reason to "bug-in" I've ever had in Colorado. It's been said before, but it's worth saying again: You can't eat gold, silver or lead. This might be a good time to make a costco run... before everyone else does.
Perhaps, my lead will keep those who believe they are entitled to what's ours at least 2-300 yds out. Making runs for food and water , if it makes you feel good by all means. However those items should have been in inventory way before this.
I suggest filling all your vehicles up and store as many 5 gallon gas cans as you feel comfortable with. Same for propane , wood or pellets for your stove.
HoneyBadger
10-15-2014, 19:11
Making runs for food and water , if it makes you feel good by all means. However those items should have been in inventory way before this.
I absolutely agree, but if you haven't already, this is the perfect time to start.
I absolutely agree, but if you haven't already, this is the perfect time to start.
We bought food for our parents because we knew they wouldn't. Now what to do about water???? I've been thinking about ordering some 50 gallon drums but beyond that we're kind of screwed in Highlands Ranch. We have enough for about a week which makes me nervous with all the freeze dried food. ;)
HoneyBadger
10-15-2014, 19:26
Edit: Off topic. Sorry!
Go get 10-12 cases of water from Costco. I'm not sure about your family situation, but that should be about 40-50gal of water, depending on which bottles you get, which should last two people a few weeks. If the water supply is going to be shut off or contaminated somehow, you can also fill your bathtubs and then put an appropriate amount of bleach in to kill any bacteria/viruses in the water. And don't forget about the 40-50gal of water in your hot water heater.
I knew that on-demand was a bad idea [facepalm]
Just an fyi. You can't boil or bleach Ebola out of the water. If infects the water supply most everyone around is done.
Just an fyi. You can't boil or bleach Ebola out of the water. If infects the water supply most everyone around is done.
Why not?
Elimination of All Microorganisms, Viral, Bacteria, and Fungal Through Sterilization
Sterilization of hard, non-porous items can be accomplished by using high heat, an autoclave or steam sterilizer. Boiling heat-resilient items in water for 20 minutes will kill the Ebola virus as well. You can also use a bleach solution to kill the virus on hard surfaces, clothing and other items using a solution of 1:10 and a solution of 1:100.
A 1:100 bleach solution is used to disinfect:
Surfaces
Medical equipment
Patient bedding
Reusable protective clothing before it is laundered.
A 1:10 bleach solution is a strong solution used to disinfect excreta and bodies, and it is best this is left to medical professionals (CDC, 2014).
Washing your hands is always the first line of defense to protect yourself and others. Use bar soap that has been cut into chunks so you can use one piece and dispose of that piece. This prevents contamination of the entire bar of soap.
Use one hand to scrub the hand, forearm of the opposite hand, and then switch using the other hand and then rinse well. Discard the piece of soap safely and always use a disposable one-time use towel or let the hands air dry.
You cannot “catch” the virus by simply being in the same room with an infected person. However, you have to assume that if an infected person sneezes or coughs then micro mucus droplets can be transmitted through the air for short distances. If it is known or suspected a person has the disease use all available protection whenever in the same room.
Bedding must be destroyed by incineration or proper procedures followed for sterilization and the same applies to the patients clothing. Physical barriers must be erected to isolate patients. This would include protective fencing, to prevent people from entering, or heavy sheets placed over doorways to alert others that a person is isolated. Signs alerting others should be placed were easily seen as well.
Bathrooms used by the infected person must be isolated and not used by anyone else. Never enter a bathroom facility that an infected person has used without all protective clothing/gear in place.
The best protection for individuals is of course isolation. Avoid crowds, do not fly and stay out of airport terminals. Once again, the virus is not floating in the air, so if you have not come in physical contact with an animal or a human that has the disease then you cannot catch the virus.
It is likely but not proven that the virus is in the United States. Remember the mortality rate is directly related to the treatment of patients infected. Because there is no cure, treatment is therapeutic. Hydration levels must be maintained, blood pressure monitored closely and most patients have to be treated for secondary infections caused by the virus.
Excessive internal and external bleeding is common and a common cause of death from the virus. This must be treated promptly by professionals. Do not attempt to treat anyone at home that you suspect has the virus.
HoneyBadger
10-15-2014, 21:45
Just an fyi. You can't boil or bleach Ebola out of the water. If infects the water supply most everyone around is done.
Sorry, but this is nonsense.
kidicarus13
10-15-2014, 21:51
Plenty of Ebola threads out there.
Great-Kazoo
10-15-2014, 21:58
Plenty of Ebola threads out there.
browse the other 5, i'm way ahead of you.
browse the other 5, i'm way ahead of you.
For that matter, there's plenty of prepper threads too.
HoneyBadger
10-15-2014, 22:11
Plenty of Ebola threads out there.
yep! Sorry.
Great-Kazoo
10-15-2014, 22:18
For that matter, there's plenty of prepper threads too.
post whore your sorry butt back there, dame whipper snappers.
Asia indices were red and so are the European indices as displayed on Kitco. Gold and silver are both flat on the world spot, oil is under $80 a barrel.
DOW was down as much as 430 yesterday but closed -173 so it rebounded a good bit.
Just an fyi. You can't boil or bleach Ebola out of the water. If infects the water supply most everyone around is done.
Either you're intentionally trying to cause undue hysteria or you're stupid...this comment is 100% baseless and completely inaccurate.
Honestly, why would you say such a thing? What was your intent? I truthfully want to know.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.2.3 Copyright © 2025 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved.