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Dispensing with the illusion of listening...
Scheduled to hearseven gun bills Monday (http://blogs.denverpost.com/thespot/2013/03/01/colorado-senators-to-hear-seven-gun-bills-monday-in-two-committees/91759/), and expecting hundreds of people to show up, the Democratic-controlled Senate has decided to limit testimony to 90 minutes per side for each measure.
Sen. Ted Harvey, R-Highlands Ranch, wasn't happy to hear about the time restriction, noting that it's the third time rules have been altered for the hearings.
"I'm frustrated in the way that they have changed the rules three times in three days," he said. "I understand this is going to be rather complicated, but they've had months to figure out how to make it work."
The committee hearings to review the bills will start at 10:30 a.m., earlier than the initially planned 1:30 p.m. start time.
Read more:Senate limits testimony in gun bill hearings to 90 minutes per side - The Denver Post (http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22706416/senate-limits-testimony-gun-bill-hearings-90-minutes#ixzz2MUeGmtEM)http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22706416/senate-limits-testimony-gun-bill-hearings-90-minutes#ixzz2MUeGmtEM
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Also note: The hearings will begin at 10:30, rather than 13:30 as originally planned.
Yep, I think most of us will be there are 9-930 to get situated and signed up.
is that a train I hear? yep we're being railroaded.
So 90min/side = 30 people/side. Going to be any trading to see who those 30 are?
With guaranteed equal time it doesnt matter if there is a 20-1 opposition, it'll seem like there is widespread support. And of course support will go last.
moving up the time meant I could not attend. Absolutely have to be at work in the morning Mon.
someone have a list of people that plan to testify? is not funny for me wake up so early and drive for hour and a have to arrive and someone tell me "i apologize, we are not accepting more testifies" fucking democrats, im so angry
someone have a list of people that plan to testify? is not funny for me wake up so early and drive for hour and a have to arrive and someone tell me "i apologize, we are not accepting more testifies" fucking democrats, im so angry
Still good to be there in person as a body filling a chair that may otherwise be filled by a pro controller..
it'll be 30 people per bill per side, not 30 people total.
Go ahead & show up anyway if you've already made the plans. maybe you'll be one of them.
Their minds are made up already, and I doubt very much if they can be persuaded to change their minds by anything anyone has to say . . . I doubt if they'll even be paying attention. Take note of who nods off and who fiddles on their phone the whole time.
Their minds are made up already, and I doubt very much if they can be persuaded to change their minds by anything anyone has to say . . . I doubt if they'll even be paying attention. Take note of who nods off and who fiddles on their phone the whole time.
I think it should be assumed that it will pass committee. That's not the point, you're not going to derail it there. You're giving the Senators that flipped over backing, and the Republicans that are going to fight for you ammo, you are making an organized protest. Being counted and heard sets the tone for the floor, where the real fight is.
Do not be discouraged when this passes committee. This just sets the stage and the tone.
Colorobo
03-03-2013, 17:39
When does the RECALL start for all of em?
mountainjenny
03-03-2013, 18:36
When does the RECALL start for all of em?
+1 For this!
A recall on my senator would be utterly pointless. Whoever has the D next to their name here wins.
I am now a registered D though so we'll see what happens come primary time
Continue with making mature and articulate statements, but be ready to initiate recalls. Hope for the best and plan for the worst as they say.
wctriumph
03-03-2013, 21:52
Here is a reply to an email I sent to all of the senate committee members, this one from Ted Harvey from Douglas county and he lays out how the scheduling Time line will most likely work out. He lists the members with their phone numbers. I called them all and left messages where I could.
Thank you for your email. I can’t express how deeply I appreciate you taking your time to contact me regarding the Democrats’ unprecedented attack on our right to self-protection.
This nationwide effort, being pushed and financed by New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, must be stopped. The fact that the White House is having Vice President Joe Bidden personally calling Colorado Democrat legislators and pressuring them to vote for these radical bills is unacceptable!!!
Like you, I am saddened by the tragic events here in Aurora and Newtown, Connecticut, but we are Coloradoans and we can take care of our own. I have personally spent time with Aurora community to support them during this horrific healing process. My family and I pray for them and all the victims of these tragic murders. Like Governor Hickenlooper said after the Aurora shooting, however, there is no law that we could pass that would have stopped this sick and evil person from acting out on his evil intentions. Certainly putting more feel good, legal red tape on law abiding citizens will do nothing to stop the evils of gun violence.
ALL of the gun bills in the Senate will be heard in TWO committees on MONDAY, March 4 at 10:30.
Judiciary Committee (Old Supreme Court Chambers, second floor of the Capitol) SB 195--CCW training SB 196--Assault Weapons ban HB 1224--Limiting the size of magazines SB ?--Prohibition of gun possession while under a restraining order
State Affairs Committee (Senate Committee RM 356, third floor of the Capitol) HB 1226 Prohibiting Concealed Carry on college campus.
HB 1228 Background fees (Poll Tax)
HB 1229 Universal Background Checks
The Democrat leadership has changed the process for the gun hearings AGAIN. It appears they are now going to take testimony and vote on each bill one at a time. They are giving the opposition three minutes for each witness, for a total of 90 minutes, followed by the proponents being given their 90 minutes. Following the public testimony, the committee members will then debate/discuss each bill prior to the vote, and then proceed to the next bill. So, I would assume each bill will take a minimum of 3.5 to 4 hours each. To make matters worse, they have rearranged the order of bills on the calendar and have moved HB 1226, the concealed carry bill, to the very end of the State Affairs Committee calendar. Therefore, if we start at 10:30 and take four hours each on the first two bills, we would not get to the concealed carry bill, the most publically controversial bill the committee until 6:30PM. I believe the Democrats have purposely scheduled the calendar in this manner to ensure that the most powerful testimony of the day will not occur until it is too late for the afternoon news.
Needless to say I am getting just a little frustrated with the way the Democrat leadership is changing the rules of the game every 24 hours.
Please plan your day according:
IF each bill goes the full four hours, then the following is what calendar MIGHT look like. Obviously, IF any bill is heard for LESS than the allotted four hours, then the following times would change accordingly.
State Affairs Committee (Senate Committee RM 356, third floor of the Capitol)
*10:30-2:30
HB 1229 - Universal Background Checks
*2:30-6:30
HB 1228 - Background fees
*6:30-10:30
HB 1226 - Prohibiting Concealed Carry on college campus
Judiciary Committee (Old Supreme Court Chambers, second floor of the Capitol)
*10:30-2:30
SB 197 - Prohibition of gun possession while under a restraining order
*2:30-6:30
HB 1224 - Limiting the size of magazines
*6:30-10:30
SB 196 - Assault Weapons ban
*10:30-2:30
SB 195 - CCW training
Please have your comments well prepared and practiced to ensure that they are within the allowed three minute time period.
If you are unable to attend on Monday afternoon please feel free to call or email any of the members of the two committee and let them know your position on the bills.
Judiciary
Chairman Guzman--303-866-4862 lucia.guzman.senate@state.co.us Vice Chairman Ulibarri--303-866-4857Jessie.ulibarri.senate@state.co.us
Senator Aguilar--303-866-4852 Irene.aguilar.senate@state.co.us Senator King--303-866-3077 steve.king.senate@state.co.us Senator Lundberg--303-866-4853 kevin@kevinlundberg.com
State, Veterans and Military Affairs
Chairman Giron--303-866-4878 angela.giron.senate@state.co.us Vice Chairman Jones--303-866-5291 senatormattjones@gmail.comSenator Crowder--303-866-4875 larry.crowder.senate@state.co.us Senator Harvey--303-866-4881 ted.harvey.senate@state.co.usSenator Hudak--303-866-4840 senatorhudak@gmail.com
SEE YOU ON MONDAY!!!
Sincerely,
Ted Harvey
Colorado Senator
(SD-30, Douglas County)
When does the RECALL start for all of em?
I think John Morse needs to first, followed by Fields.
DeusExMachina
03-03-2013, 23:15
I appreciate all of you attending for those that can't.
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