THE 4 March, HR 1224 thread. Don't open another one!

[RonMexico]

Thanks for the updates and keep them coming ( icrap won't support flash)

[newracer]

This is just the committe though right? It still needs to see the Senate floor for a vote correct?

Also since it was amended it will have to go back to the house.

[newracer]

So pretty much all the folks testifying for these bills are the same folks ?.....


shouldn't that be a clue to these senators ?

The guy now about the mag ban has the same testimony as before.

[clublights]

yeah, there is 0 chance of these dying in committee.
yeah I think we all knew it .. but we can still HOPE...

Great now I'm talking about hope.. if I start talking about change.. someone drag me out back and put me outta my misery .

[Batteriesnare]

Bawling woman claims "the few seconds it takes to reload can save many lives."

What a crock!

[PugnacAutMortem]

Also since it was amended it will have to go back to the house.

I've been trying to keep up...but was there anything else added other than the 72 hour temporary transfer?

[palepainter]

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[asmo]

Actually, the absolute and best possible way to kill any bill is in committee. Once it is on the floor, especially with our makeup, its a done deal.

[newracer]

Columbine did not use high capacity magazines!!!!! They had 10 round mags!!!

[merl]

oh you are allowed to Hope all you want.

but dont rely on hope, actually work for that Change too :) Right now we need to change the mind of 3 D senators.

[blacklabel]

Here comes Tom Mauser again. Same crap.

[asmo]

I've been trying to keep up...but was there anything else added other than the 72 hour temporary transfer?

Big one: cant transfer within the members of a trust.

[dwalker460]

Columbine did not use high capacity magazines!!!!! They had 10 round mags!!!

Why bother with the truth, he is a liberal idiot.

[clublights]

The guy now about the mag ban has the same testimony as before.


pretty much word for word

[merl]

Actually, the absolute and best possible way to kill any bill is in committee. Once it is on the floor, especially with our makeup, its a done deal.

normally true but these committees were picked to ensure these bills would hit the floor.

[newracer]

Someone should have called him on it though.

[def90]

I've been trying to keep up...but was there anything else added other than the 72 hour temporary transfer?

Added 1st cousins, nieces, nephews, aunts, uncles to the family member definition.

[cofi]

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sad fucking day for colorado

[aryntha]

So the 72 hour temporary transfer -did- go in though?

[XC700116]

Also HB1229 was referred to appropriations, not to the floor so still possible, but doubtful.

[XC700116]

So the 72 hour temporary transfer -did- go in though?


yes

[.455_Hunter]

Was anything added about temporary transfer between non-family members? Pretty dumb if you cant let you buddy fire your weapon while lawfully target shooting or hunting on private property or national forest.

[newracer]

And another lie, no high capacity mags were used at VT!!!!!!!

[Geology Rocks]

this is making me sicker than I already am. bleh

[Rucker61]

And another lie, no high capacity mags were used at VT!!!!!!!

And more kids were killed at Columbine by the gun with 10 round magazines.

[aryntha]

Was anything added about temporary transfer between non-family members? Pretty dumb if you cant let you buddy fire your weapon while lawfully target shooting or hunting on private property or national forest.

Yeah, it was - that was my question too. 72 hour temporary transfer was added, so borrowing at the range or private property is OK. Still doesn't make this bill much better, but any port in a storm...

[J]

Columbine did not use high capacity magazines!!!!! They had 10 round mags!!!

Harris used 10 round mags, Kleibold used high capacity mags, but fired far fewer shots than Harris.

[Rucker61]

Yeah, it was - that was my question too. 72 hour temporary transfer was added, so borrowing at the range or private property is OK. Still doesn't make this bill much better, but any port in a storm...

It's still completely unenforceable. You loan him the gun for a week long elk hunt - how would any LEO know it isn't his?

[newracer]

My understanding is that they had only one high capacity mag total.

The Golden Police Chief just said VT used high capacity mags, they did not.

[clublights]

The CBI Saying anything other then spewing the same BS ?

[J]

3 high cap mags on Kleibold, at least as high cap is defined in HB 13-1224.

[Batteriesnare]

Lundberg and King are laying it down. King just asked Golden's Chief of Police how many rounds are enough for them.

Good for them. We owe them a flood of thank yous.

[Batteriesnare]

King just shut that fucker up!

AWESOME for Senator KING!

[brutal]

What is a letheality ?

Oh, and thanks for making our point on the number of rounds needed to defend yourself.

[Rucker61]

Thanks, Chief, for saying that the defender needs to determine how many rounds is reasonble for their own defense. Fell on deaf ears, I'm afraid.

[aryntha]

It's still completely unenforceable. You loan him the gun for a week long elk hunt - how would any LEO know it isn't his?

Well, yeah, thats why this is a "feel-good" law only. "Son, is that gun yours?" / "Yes sir." A LEO would have to see the transfer happen, and now, with the 72hr exemption even that's out the window.-- Are there any statements in the bill about burden of proof?

[brutal]

"Died because of high capacity magazines." ?

Please.

[Batteriesnare]

This Mayor Sloan is a fool. She has regurgitated Bloomberg's agenda verbatim. Same old lies. [Bang]

[Geology Rocks]

who knew high capacity magazines killed people. shocking...I thought it was a person that went crazy.

[newracer]

Lundberg and King are laying it down. King just asked Golden's Chief of Police how many rounds are enough for them.

Good for them. We owe them a flood of thank yous.


King just shut that fucker up!

AWESOME for Senator KING!

That was awesome.

[brutal]

FUDD is up again.

[freqlord]

And who's this idiot up right now?


rapidly killing people. And we got called terrorists.

[Rucker61]

Mr. Head, you dick.

[Batteriesnare]

Someone get this geriatric patient off the stand. This man has no idea of what he speaks, yet claims to represent a firearms hunting group.

[brutal]

Hey FUDD, they're gonna make your OU shotgun illegal too!

[lowbeyond]

that fudd should go hunting with Cheney [ROFL2]

[newracer]

Who did he represent, we need to bombard that group.

[dwalker460]

Where are the pro gun guys?

[freqlord]

That's my question

[XC700116]

And now having to pay to excercise a constitutional right is to make it fairer by providing funding to have a "faster CBI"

Christ what a joke.

[Batteriesnare]

Where are the pro gun guys?

It seems that they aren't intertwining pro/cons like they did in the House. I think they're doing all the pro bill then all the cons.

[brutal]

Hey FUDD#2, your hunting rifle is more "high velocity" than any AR or high capacity pistol magazine clip bullet thingy.

[Zundfolge]

It seems that they aren't intertwining pro/cons like they did in the House. I think they're doing all the pro bill then all the cons.

Commonly known as "Stacking The Deck".

[clublights]

Who the hell is this fuckstick on the mag ban now ??

If you used an AR on an elk in colorado you'd be breaking the law....

[Geology Rocks]

this guy cannot be a hunter. his facts are wrong.

[newracer]

The pro side brings testimony then the con. It was the same in the house.

[brutal]

:D Seems like there's comments going from both streams. I wish I could process both AND work at the same time, but it's unpossible.

[mb504]

Who did he represent, we need to bombard that group.

"Hunters Against Gun Violence" so new they have no presence on the web and no website... astroturf?

[brutal]

FUDD only needs one round to kill an intruder.

"How about a group of intruders, how about a home invasion,... how about a gang?" nice!

[ChiefBDT]

This guy can't even read his own statement

[Batteriesnare]

This jackass hopes a lot.



I bet he's an Obummer supporter.

[clublights]

MAg ban... I love the " hitler stache" the other mic is giving this guy on the video ....


Sorry I'm easy to amuse some times

[cjmore]

Someone should be coaching these folks - The proper anwer to the "how many rounds is enough" should be personally always want a couple more than enough.

[Batteriesnare]

WOW, we just got called baby murderers.

[ChiefBDT]

"I'd give it my best shot"
Good Grief

[Batteriesnare]

Lundberg is kickin' ass. Just laid down the original purpose of the 2A.

What an awesome smackdown!

[brutal]

haha, I paraphrase (WTF does your duck hunting have to do with the 2nd Amendment?)

[ChiefBDT]

"Control our babies that are creating murder"
What?
How can anyone take these people seriously?

[freqlord]

Bam son!

[freqlord]

Who's all going to be outside around 5?

[Geology Rocks]

how come every single person who is supporting this bill is not giving facts but feelings? I want facts people....not that it makes you feel better when you go to starbucks.

[clublights]

Mag ban:

Nice way to TRY to avoid the question of how many members you have .....

[Geology Rocks]

bawahahahahahaha........................75?

[XC700116]

wow a whole 75 members and they get a preferred spot as "expert testimony" :facepalm

[brutal]

How many of the HAGs do they need?

[opie011]

bawahahahahahaha........................75?
Now its around 40

[lowbeyond]

its a FUDD eruption !

[clublights]

Mag Ban: so this group has 40 members and gets expert testimony ?


hell there are more then 40 of our members watching this thread I'm willing to bet!

[newracer]

IT'S NOT ABOUT HUNTING!!!!!!!!!

[brutal]

Hey FUDD, I got me some hunting stories too.

Round limits for game equals round limits for self defense how?

Where do they come up with these illogical parallels?

[Geology Rocks]

IT'S NOT ABOUT HUNTING!!!!!!!!!

but a real hunter doesn't need 30 round magazines. ducks don't shoot back.

[freqlord]

This is a public health issue??

[cjmore]

Mark Thune brings nothing to the table

[clocker]

Wow, has anyone noticed how they keep trotting out the same people in support for each bill? Nope, no collusion here...

[brobar]

Mag Ban: so this group has 40 members and gets expert testimony ?


hell there are more then 40 of our members watching this thread I'm willing to bet!


That is what I was thinking. How hard would it be to get together 3 or 4 dozen of us and go up there to say we are "Democrats against gun control"? I could easily find that many people in my apartment complex who are pro-gun!

[brutal]

Speed limits. Great, how that has reduced the numbers of automobile deaths?

How many deaths from malpractice there doc?

[cofi]

how much longer till they vote?

[cjmore]

Dr. Mark Thune a local physician (mag size) won't answer mental health question

[freqlord]

Go senator king!

[killianak9]

So his testimony just proves 8 years of school and a few letter after your name do not make you SMART........Dr dumbass.

[jhood001]

FFS- Gabby Giffords is in Denver to support these retarded bills. I guess she wants to try and pull a James Brady and get as much millage out of the anti-gun/victim card as possible... [facepalm]


She was shot in the face and almost died. I don't see her actions as trying to exploit what happened to her no more than I see people who survived a shooting by using a firearm of their own to defend themselves giving testimony as 'exploiting' anything. And I certainly wouldn't say she is playing a 'card'.

She was shot. She didn't like it, and she thinks that these measures will keep her and others from being shot again. While her position is misguided and flat out wrong, I don't think she is wrong for talking about it and voicing her opinion on the matter.

She is, however, 100% flat out wrong for being here in our state providing testimony that will influence OUR affairs and lives.

She needs to go home.

[sniper7]

Gifford should not be allowed to testify. She is not a resident. This is state law, affecting the citizens of Colorado.

[asmo]

If the founding fathers could come back for one hour they would immediately say "What the fuck did you idiots do?"

[kidicarus13]

A Canadian testifying?!

[freqlord]

We have a Canadian testifying??????????

[asmo]

"I live and work in Canada"... So WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU BEING ALLOWED TO TESTIFY? Can someone please go get the Sergent at Arms?

[brutal]

Wow, she must be a medium if she knows what the founding fathers intended.

Here's a clue - read the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

[Batteriesnare]

Go the FUCK back to Canada!

[opie011]

A Canadian testifying?!


We have a Canadian testifying??????????
WTF[Bang]

[cjmore]

Ron Pierre a canadian resident, who visits CO occassionally. Supports 1224....a step in the right direction

[brutal]

STFU, eh?

And so.

[asmo]

Someone needs to go get the Sergent at Arms and get this guy out now? A foreign citizen testifying?? NOT KOSHER!

[cjmore]

surely it can save lives - and he's the lowest speaker on record

[kidicarus13]

We have a Canadian testifying??????????

Like having an Ethiopian talk about buffets.

[brutal]

I still don't understand why anyone that is not a Colorado resident is allowed to testify.

[XC700116]

Wow, gal in the HB1228 hearing, just knocked it out of the park

"This is the war on Women, on the elderly, on the impoverished, and on Minorities and charging fees to excercise my rights, imfringes on those rights"

[freqlord]

Like having an Ethiopian talk about buffets.


Amen brother!

[brutal]

Our turn. I am here in virtual support.

[Fmedges]

Like having an Ethiopian talk about buffets.

Or a Kenyan as our president

[clublights]

Ahh seems to be 2 threads goin on this ....

http://www.ar-15.co/threads/92413-Anyone-have-a-link-for-watching-the-hearings-today/

[brutal]

OK, time for the Dems to plug their ears, facts a comin'.

[clublights]

akk there is also a thread on this goin in GD

http://www.ar-15.co/threads/92453-Monday-march-4-house-bill-1224-being-heard-right-now/

[asmo]

Kopel rocks it again.

[freqlord]

Damn! Shall we take our conversation over that way?

[aryntha]

Probably best to consolidate into one thread...

[Batteriesnare]

What is this guy talking about?

He lost me, and I enjoy shooting.

[clublights]

I think we should merge them ... but thats just my opinion ...

Any mods handy that can merge ?

[brutal]

I see Sheriffs standing in the background. Go boys, go!

[freqlord]

Agreed. I'm gonna bounce over that way an carry on there. To those outside ill see you at 4:45

[dwalker460]

Watching, with interest...

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc259/dwalker460/20130304_155655_zps5e5a4b59.jpg

[brutal]

Apparently I've been in the wrong thread...


Or are you?

:D

[freqlord]

I see it!! Lets get em!

[ChiefBDT]

"I live and work in Canada"... So WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU BEING ALLOWED TO TESTIFY? Can someone please go get the Sergent at Arms?
I hear ya, I was thinking that as well. They don't have enough of their experts here so they are letting Canadians testify?

[freqlord]

That must be the case.

[Batteriesnare]

Thanks for the merge!

[hatidua]

Watching, with interest...

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc259/dwalker460/20130304_155655_zps5e5a4b59.jpg

You need a clip.

[SA Friday]

I merged the two threads and changed the title...

[clublights]

Thanks mod that linked these!


On the Background check charge:
Girl is killing it about how the fees could increase into hundrerds of dollars and harm the poor women and minorities!

[ChunkyMonkey]

Racing back downtown... honk honk

[freqlord]

I'll be there in 15!

[brobar]

Kopel is hitting on almost every single point I've been wanting someone to hit on! Good job!!!

[twitchyfinger]

Thanks mod that linked these!


On the Background check charge:
Girl is killing it about how the fees could increase into hundrerds of dollars and harm the poor women and minorities!

Ditto! thanks I was having a hard time refreshing and keeping up!

[clublights]

Just to post again for anyone just joining or got lost in all the pages ...
this link has live video and live audio to both hearings.

http://live.denverpost.com/Event/Seven_Colorado_gun_bills_to_be_heard_in_Senate_com mitees

[mb504]

IT'S NOT ABOUT HUNTING!!!!!!!!!

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[clublights]

WOW look at the line of sheriffs in the background at the mag ban hearings....

[newracer]

Love to see the sheriffs standing there.

[muddywings]

I'm back in, waiting for the roads to clear on base. Listening and catching up. Glad I came back with Evan Todd on the mic!

[ThunderSquirrel]

This may have been addressed already, but why is there no push for at least a sunset clause in the bills like there was with the Clinton AWB?

[BigBehr]

This may have been addressed already, but why is there no push for at least a sunset clause in the bills like there was with the Clinton AWB?

Because they dont want to have to push it through again if it works!

[clocker]

:( Kopel making the argument for 30 rounds in a rifle, but the factory PS90 comes with 50 round mags

[buzzed223]

this good stuff. I love hearing people make educated points!

[clublights]

Sunsets are a bs compromise on OUR side....

and the Left learned their lesson .

[Great-Kazoo]

This may have been addressed already, but why is there no push for at least a sunset clause in the bills like there was with the Clinton AWB?

Because they learned their lesson once, they will not allow any sunset of any firearm restriction / ban to happen again. This is bigger than just CO and "sensible" gun laws, this is about the march towards confiscation and blatant outlawing of a CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED RIGHT.

[muddywings]

A Columbine survivor against 1224 speaks volumes!

[sniper7]

Alright! Magpul time!

[buzzed223]

is the magpul guy talking now?

[XC700116]

Here we go with the Magpul CEO,

GO GET'EM

[HoneyBadger]

Just got home from work... The drive was perilous, but I'm glad I'm home in time to listen to the live feed.

[buzzed223]

ok I didn't know if i was listening live or not

[sniper7]

Still here the horns!

[cofi]

Watching, with interest...

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc259/dwalker460/20130304_155655_zps5e5a4b59.jpg


is that the roof of a spec miata?(the lil white car)

[twitchyfinger]

WOW look at the line of sheriffs in the background at the mag ban hearings....

From Larimer County Sheriff Justin Smiths page:

"Republican and Democratic Sheriffs stand united opposing the bad bills in the state legislature. There between 25 and 30 Sheriffs."

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[asmo]

Magpul OWNING it!

With props!

Totally nailed the guy when he talked about revenues.

[Madeinhb]

Magpul OWNING it!

Yea he is. Flat out saying they will move.

[TheBelly]

I dont have to pay to exercise my 4th amendment rights, why should I have a fee to exercise my 2nd amendment rights? excellent.

[asmo]

NAILED IT.

[asmo]

45m last year -- 80m next year.

Senator just asked Fitz if had thought about going public..

[clublights]

I wish the magpul guy had said that 15 round rifle mags are NOT common.

[brutal]

King should have been asking what the indirect dollar amounts are estimated to be.

[Madeinhb]

45m last year -- 80m next year.

Senator just asked Fitz if had thought about going public..

Yup. And totally nailed it. All magpul and glock mags would be illegal no matter what capacity.

[Cameron]

Yup. And totally nailed it. All magpul and glock mags would be illegal no matter what capacity.

Really? I thought Glock mags 15 and less would be OK.

Camerom

[Madeinhb]

Really? I thought Glock mags 15 and less would be OK.

Camerom

Not based on what magpul just said. That you can take the bottom piece off mag and extend it.

[daemon]

Will the transcripts from the hearings be posted publicly?

[clublights]

Really? I thought Glock mags 15 and less would be OK.

Camerom

All about readily adaptable.....

[Fmedges]

Really? I thought Glock mags 15 and less would be OK.

Camerom

Not if they can be "readily" converted to hold more than 15 rounds.

[cofi]

how much longer till they vote?

[Madeinhb]

What senator was that who asked if magpul leaves, would another come in? What drugs is he taking?

[clublights]

If magpul left would someone move in to fill demand???

uhh no Magpul has a patented product... no one else can make them .. what a Tard.

[clublights]

Ullibari was the one asking about the other company moving in .

[dwalker460]

is that the roof of a spec miata?(the lil white car)


It is indeed...

[brutal]

King should have been asking what the indirect dollar amounts are estimated to be.

[clocker]

Senator: "And how many of those employees have families"
Employee: "I would venture to guess that every one of them have families"

Awesome :)

[SA Friday]

Not if they can be "readily" converted to hold more than 15 rounds.
If that's the case, then any mag that doesn't have a block in it like the CA commie 10 rounders would be illegal.

[Fmedges]

If magpul left would someone move in to fill demand???

uhh no Magpul has a patented product... no one else can make them .. what a Tard.

Who said into the microphone "your kidding me" when Ullibari asked that hahaha

[brutal]

Mag limit Bill will just destroy MORE lives.

[def90]

Who's the whiny bitch boy asking questions during the magpul testimony? The guy asking the worker if he was forced to come and testify? All you can ever see on camera is King..

[muddywings]

wow...epic!

[Madeinhb]

Wow. That comment just basically said they are voting for it.

[brutal]

Any mag with a removable floorplate would be illegal.

[DireWolf]

un-fucking believable!

[Fmedges]

Damn. It's nice to see your public officials shit of you.

[brutal]

Aguilar, what a cunt.

[XC700116]

If that's the case, then any mag that doesn't have a block in it like the CA commie 10 rounders would be illegal.


yes, and it is the case, the way the bill is written.

[asmo]

Agular got booed..

"Not going to waste my time overheard.." hahah

[StreetDoctor]

where is a working video link? I only have audio... Can't believe that bitch that was just on... Who was that? That said "talk to your employer"

[clublights]

Aguilar side the talk to employer .

http://live.denverpost.com/Event/Seven_Colorado_gun_bills_to_be_heard_in_Senate_com mitees

has video and audio links

the second video is the mag ban testimony

[Great-Kazoo]

where is a working video link? I only have audio... Can't believe that bitch that was just on... Who was that? That said "talk to your employer"

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22715271/colorado-gun-bills-senate-committee-begins-hearing-testimony

While noble the employee's speaking doesn't do anything to sway minds already made up. The left doesn't give a shit.

[def90]

where is a working video link? I only have audio... Can't believe that bitch that was just on... Who was that? That said "talk to your employer"

Aguilar

[Madeinhb]

If that's the case, then any mag that doesn't have a block in it like the CA commie 10 rounders would be illegal.

Depends what the law is. This one is saying any mag that is convertible, those mags are also illegal. CA law isn't the same. Just says can't own one that holds more than 10.

[zteknik]

I hope these so called officials remember all of this when it's our turn to vote and there wondering what happened to there jobs...

[sniper7]

I believe king said he wasn't going to waste his time.

[Fmedges]

I hope these so called officials remember all of this when it's our turn to vote and there wondering what happened to there jobs...

or when they are on trial

[zteknik]

or when they are on trial
EXACTLY!..

[Fmedges]

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22715271/colorado-gun-bills-senate-committee-begins-hearing-testimony

While noble the employee's speaking doesn't do anything to sway minds already made up. The left doesn't give a shit.

We both know these hearings don't mean anything. A fucking sham.

[SA Friday]

Depends what the law is. This one is saying any mag that is convertible, those mags are also illegal. CA law isn't the same. Just says can't own one that holds more than 10.
Uh, ya... Almost every mag out there can be extended unless there is a physical barrier internally obstructing the follower from traveling past a specific point. ALL current unobstructed mags would be illegal... Not just Glock and AR mags. this would essentally outlaw all the mags currently in circulation.

[mountainjenny]

Aquilar writes bitchy emails too. She told me to contact my own reps/senators not her.

[Rooskibar03]

We both know these hearings don't mean anything. A fucking sham.

+1.

Recall em and try for treason.

The horns don't appear to be working, when do we switch to gunfire?

(I kid, I kid. Venting in frustration. )

[mahabali]

Aquilar writes bitchy emails too. She told me to contact my own reps/senators not her.

Me too.

[sniper7]

CA guy came to CO only to get fucked here.

[Fmedges]

+1.

Recall em and try for treason.

The horns don't appear to be working, when do we switch to gunfire?

(I kid, I kid. Venting in frustration. )

I'm not joking

[Madeinhb]

Uh, ya... Almost every mag out there can be extended unless there is a physical barrier internally obstructing the follower from traveling past a specific point. ALL current unobstructed mags would be illegal... Not just Glock and AR mags. this would essentally outlaw all the mags currently in circulation.

But what in saying is that in CA it's illegal to own a mag over 10. It doesn't say the 10 rd is illegal because it can be modified. CO bill says if a mag can be modified the whole mag is illegal. Doesn't matter the capacity.

[th3w01f]

Aquilar writes bitchy emails too. She told me to contact my own reps/senators not her.

Just in case anyone has some comments for her.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Irene-Aguilar/123216367738376

[clublights]

Anyone keeping up on the Charge for BGC's ?

wondering how that is going ..

[blacklabel]

All of the technical stuff about shotguns is going to go right over their heads.

[jscwerve]

Just in case anyone has some comments for her.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Irene-Aguilar/123216367738376

I left her a bit of a message.

[clublights]

Mag ban:

this poor guy is trying to explain how it works to Hodges.. and she is worse then honeybadger.. she truly doesn't give a fuck.

[sniper7]

It is very sad these people don't understand

[Madeinhb]

Anyone else having issues with the stream?

[SA Friday]

But what in saying is that in CA it's illegal to own a mag over 10. It doesn't say the 10 rd is illegal because it can be modified. CO bill says if a mag can be modified the whole mag is illegal. Doesn't matter the capacity.
I know that.... But currently only mags specifically designed to meet the 10 round limit have internal blocks in them. Hell, I can take a Wilson combat mag and with some sheet metal magic and a new spring, convert it to hold 20 rounds. Not sure how well it will work, but this basically would mean without any internal block LIKE THE CURRENTLY PRODUCED CA 10 ROUND MAGS would be illegal. Not just Glock and AR mags.

[DireWolf]

Why doesn't someone just call it like it is and state unequivocally that anyone who votes in favor of these is willfully violating their oath of office and that they should expect to be recalled and brought up on charges of treason?

[asmo]

This aimpro guy is trying so hard - but they are flat out ignoring him so bad.

[Rooskibar03]

I left her a bit of a message.

Me too. Send these people back under the rock they came from.

[sniper7]

I wonder what the economic impact is when you take in the amount that is spent on hunting, lodging, food, gas, licenses etc.

[blacklabel]

He just unequivocally stated that 90% of the shotguns in the state would be banned and they go back to the money. Jesus.

[Fmedges]

Why doesn't someone just call it like it is and state unequivocally that anyone who votes in favor of these is willfully violating their oath of office and that they should expect to be recalled and brought up on charges of treason?

I believe they would call that a threat. I don't think it is but these pussy fuckers would.

[sniper7]

Why doesn't someone just call it like it is and state unequivocally that anyone who votes in favor of these is willfully violating their oath of office and that they should expect to be recalled and brought up on charges of treason?

I imagine they would say you are trying to influence a public official and charge you with intimidation or something along those lines

[StreetDoctor]

80% of shotguns banned if this passes....

[clublights]

He just unequivocally stated that 90% of the shotguns in the state would be banned and they go back to the money. Jesus.


Money is all they understand .

[DireWolf]

I think it could be phrased in such a way as to be non-threatening...maybe by just referencing the legal process which could be invoked...

[clublights]

The Sheriffs are on deck over the mag bans....

[Great-Kazoo]

CO Sheriffs up front & center! OPPOSING 1224............ BITCH SLAP!

[Fmedges]

I think it could be phrased in such a way as to be non-threatening...maybe by just referencing the legal process which could be invoked...

I don't disagree with you, but in the land of lawyers it's almost safer to just act.

[def90]

Sheriffs are all coming in now.. :)

[TheBelly]

Sherrif of Pueblo County.. Democrat and proud to oppose hb 1224.. whoops.

[cjmore]

When he said teach anyone to change a mag in 4 secs - she said really???

[DireWolf]

I don't disagree with you, but in the land of lawyers it's almost safer to just act.


good point...

[def90]

The feed sucks.. You would think they could recruit an IT guy from the porn industry to give us a clean uninterrupted audio and video stream.

[Great-Kazoo]

Sherrif of Pueblo County.. Democrat and proud to oppose hb 1224.. whoops.

Get tough on Crime No #$%^& Shit, there's a novel way to keep the streets safer. They will ignore all of their testimony.

[TheBelly]

oh he just said clips..... also talking about going over the border to buy the mags and that hb1224 is un-enforceable.

[Trout Hunter]

Its good to see a sheriff that opposes but was that most well spoken sheriff that they could find?

[cjmore]

Will it harms someones safety ?

[clublights]

Damn it .. just answer YES when she asks if it would adversely affect safety of citizens .

[blacklabel]

Terrible example. There are tons of examples of citizens using 30 round AR magazines to defend their life and property. Dudley is up.

[asmo]

YES Citizens have used 30 round magazines to defend themselves.

[clublights]

Damn looks like again we only get "expert" testimony on our side again .....

[Trout Hunter]

FTW! Round of applause

[TheBelly]

The citizens should have the same right to defend themselves as the police.... excellent.

[sniper7]

Come on Dudley!

[cofi]

Terrible example. There are tons of examples of citizens using 30 round AR magazines to defend their life and property. Dudley is up.

can you post some links to some....

[XC700116]

Dudley yeilds to another speaker.

[TFOGGER]

Dudley yeilds to another speaker.

...and she's killing it!

[StreetDoctor]

...and she's killing it!

fucking A right!

[loveski]

Loud speaker

[twitchyfinger]

The feed sucks.. You would think they could recruit an IT guy from the porn industry to give us a clean uninterrupted audio and video stream.

NO SHIT!!! Or even better publicize it here locally on T.V.

[Trout Hunter]

Love the woman who just testified

[def90]

Dudley blew it. I'm not sure that her testimony is going to change a lefties mind, I think they will only take it as a threat.

[aryntha]

I hope they bring up some of these same people and points on the floor again. Because as great as some of these folks are, they're unfortuantely talking to an echo chamber.

[dwalker460]

Everyone should know better than to mess with angry Chinese woman..

[StreetDoctor]

ZING!

[blacklabel]

can you post some links to some....

LA Riots

http://www.humanevents.com/2013/01/25/college-students-ward-off-home-intruders-with-ar-15/

http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/video-security-guard-defends-business-with-assault-rifle/

I'm chasing my son around or I'd post more.