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Originally Posted by bryjcom

why arent we invading saudi arabia then?

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Two words- Oil money. I'm serious- The Kingdom of Saud is one of the most wishy washy foreign policy issues we face. 1/2 love us, the other 1/2 hate us- but where it counts in their government they love us. We have an agreement- they trade oil with us, we provide military support. 1991, we protected them from Saddam. We found oil there, we made it so they have one of the most prosperous economies in the region, we sell them equipment, provide training, etc.

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Originally Posted by axej

Live by the sword by by the sword. How does this not not apply to any militaty member(any) that volunteers to join our imperialististic invading force? There is no reason for us to occupy Iraq, they posed no credible threat to our country. Anyone joining the military lately should realize they are part of an invading, imperialistic, evil force. Just because you kill in the name of the US does not make it morally right. The USA ( gov of the US) holds no monopoly on morality, which should be clear if one knows anything about history. There is no illusion of self defense when you invade a country thousands of miles away with no means of attacking the USA. How can one be a hero for attacking a defenseless poplulace that is not directly attacking us, and is powerless to defend itself from the power such that we possess? There is nothing heroic about slaughtering 'enemies' that are defending their homeland against invaders with superior weapons. His death, tragic as it is, was a direct result of people such as you that glorify killing, falsely, in the name of freedom whilst innocents are being repressed by the very freedom you pretend to defend. These killers that we breed to do our evil bidding, are certain to breed evil when they return home. This is just a sympton of the sickness of our society that many of you so clearly demonstrate. Simply, a sociopath killer was murdered by a disturbed member of our society who could not reconcile our society's blood lust for killing of those who may disagree or outsmart us businessswise.

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I would like to meet up and buy you a sandwhich.

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Originally Posted by Ronin13

Two words- Oil money. I'm serious- The Kingdom of Saud is one of the most wishy washy foreign policy issues we face. 1/2 love us, the other 1/2 hate us- but where it counts in their government they love us. We have an agreement- they trade oil with us, we provide military support. 1991, we protected them from Saddam. We found oil there, we made it so they have one of the most prosperous economies in the region, we sell them equipment, provide training, etc.

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...and we sit on our 100yr oil supply (subject to increase, as we reduce our oil consumption with new vehicles and green-energy supplements), all the while consuming theirs.... supposed theory is, eventually we will be the worlds leading oil producer when the middle east runs dry, but it's going to take a long ass time.

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Originally Posted by Fmedges

I would like to meet up and buy you a sandwhich.

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you mean a knuckle sandwich dont you?

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Originally Posted by Sawin

...and we sit on our 100yr oil supply (subject to increase, as we reduce our oil consumption with new vehicles and green-energy supplements), all the while consuming theirs.... supposed theory is, eventually we will be the worlds leading oil producer when the middle east runs dry, but it's going to take a long ass time.

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By recent estimates- the ME will run out of oil (at current rates of consumption) sometime between 2210-2290 (average is around 2265, +/- 250 years or so)... I don't think we have anything to worry about right now.

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Originally Posted by Sawin

...and we sit on our 100yr oil supply (subject to increase, as we reduce our oil consumption with new vehicles and green-energy supplements), all the while consuming theirs.... supposed theory is, eventually we will be the worlds leading oil producer when the middle east runs dry, but it's going to take a long ass time.

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And a lot of lives......

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Originally Posted by HBARleatherneck

you mean a knuckle sandwich dont you?

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Possibly

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Originally Posted by Fmedges

Possibly

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Can I join!? Hey, I'm always up to aid a Marine in uh... sandwich "buying"! [Marin1[

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Originally Posted by Ronin13

Two words- Oil money. I'm serious- The Kingdom of Saud is one of the most wishy washy foreign policy issues we face. 1/2 love us, the other 1/2 hate us- but where it counts in their government they love us. We have an agreement- they trade oil with us, we provide military support. 1991, we protected them from Saddam. We found oil there, we made it so they have one of the most prosperous economies in the region, we sell them equipment, provide training, etc.

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It's nice to blame it all on oil money but that's really not accurate. Why haven't we invaded Saudi Arabia? The primary answer is that the GOVERNMENT of Saudi Arabia didn't provide aid and support to ObL or Al Qaeda; they kicked him out of the country. Yeah, he still had family ties but he hadn't been in country for years. That's like saying we should invade Great Britain because Piers Morgan is a dick. In fact, one of ObL's complaints was that he felt our long term presence in Saudi Arabia was an invasion in all but name.

You ARE right in that a large part of the country hates us for essentially the same reasons ObL did but that's a far cry from governmental action whereas Saddam essentially welcomed ObL as a comrade-in-arms and the Taliban WAS the government of Afghanistan for a period.

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Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter

Nope, nothing but pure stupidity augmented by brainwashing from MoveOn.org, OWS and other propaganda tools. I'm ashamed this tool claims to be from Colorado Springs as s/he sounds more like a Boulderite or Kommiepornia whackjob.

S/he may sincerely believe this garbage but all the belief in the world won't make him/her right just as all the hope and change in the world won't fix effed up fiscal policies, anti-American foreign policy or intentional ignorance about the Constitution.

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Oh I agree it's nonsense. But I respect someone with the courage of their convictions to come right out and say what they think. As opposed to some of the weak willed alluding that has happened in this thread.

I prefer an enemy that will look me in the eye.