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All this hubbub over a fudge cake?
I miss all the good stuff. :(
Another view of the SC decision
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/...tback-liberty/
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In essence, Phillips won because the oxymoronic Colorado Civil Rights Commission was mean to him. The Court does not say how the commission should have decided the matter; it merely admonishes that, in future hearings, the commissioners must avoid being so indecorous, so overt in their hostility to unreconstructed Christians. Silent, smiling contempt is de rigueur: In the next case, just patiently hear out the baker, politely rule against him, and move on — no more grandstanding about how much religion sucks.
Yup, next time, and it will happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by roberth
Or we get a USSC precedent directly resolving the manufactured conflict between special people and 1A. That's dangerous for everyone.
Right now they have wiggle room to selectively apply the law (you never see Muslims being forced to cater to special people). I imagine they want it to be more like Europe/UK where everything is relative. Policy > law.
So, the CO Civil Rights (so-called anyway) department is doubling down on stupid. They've filed ANOTHER lawsuit against Masterpiece, this time because someone wanted him to make a cake that was blue on the outside but pink on the inside for his/her/whatever "gender transition," and they didn't want to do it.
Can these idiots be summarily fired yet? Preferably out of a cannon into the sun.
https://www.redstate.com/streiff/201...ian-activists/
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/...ebration-cake/
I like the title of that redstate article... "Only bakery in Colorado...." it must be the only bakery, because these activist can't go anywhere else to get their weird cakes made?Quote:
Originally Posted by RblDiver
They could, but they were embarrassed at the Supreme Court by him, so they are after him with a vengeance.Quote:
Originally Posted by 68Charger
The more he stands up for his rights the more I want to give him businessQuote:
Originally Posted by OneGuy67
They keep pushing.
This time they clearly targeted him because of his beliefs, no disputing that. They seem to be doubling down on the overt religious bigotry.Quote:
Originally Posted by OneGuy67
so revenge is a good endeavor for a government entity to undertake? They need to be dissolved. Maybe they think they're after "justice", but it's horribly misguided.Quote:
Originally Posted by OneGuy67
I got a Denver Post feed on my phone saying Phillips is suing Hickenlooper and the CCRC over this. Lawsuit filed yesterday.
Yep. Me too.Quote:
Originally Posted by KevDen2005
The day of the Supreme Court decision, someone went into the shop and asked him to make a gender change cake. Sure as hell, they are targeting him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skip
I was referring the those on the left, not a government body. Definitely out for revenge on him. Now, I agree that the equal rights commission needs to be dissolved as they were the target of the Supreme Court decision and it was obvious they were being religiously intolerant.Quote:
Originally Posted by 68Charger
Link for others: https://www.denverpost.com/2018/08/1...ooper-lawsuit/Quote:
Originally Posted by sandman76
Good! I want him to win against them personally, not against the state. I don't want to pay for their crusade.
And they still are reporting it as a "narrow decision"Quote:
Originally Posted by RblDiver
Humans apparently love to repeat history. Didn't learn enough from Sodom & Gommorah. Didn't learn enough from Rome. Let's do it again! [gayafro]
Gender is biological, not ideological.
Apparently, they didn't get the message the first time...
FYI
https://www.colorado.gov/pacific/dor...hts/commission
Colorado Civil Rights Commissioners
Anthony Aragon, Democrat, Representing State or Local Government Entities, Denver (term expires: 3/16/19)
Miguel "Michael" Rene Elias, Republican, Representing Community at Large, Pueblo (term expires: 3/13/20)
Carol Fabrizio, Unaffiliated, Representing Business, Denver (term expires: 3/16/19)
Charles Garcia, Democrat, Representing Community at Large, Denver (term expires: 3/13/21)
Rita Lewis, Democrat, Representing Small Business, Denver (term expires: 3/16/19)
Jessica Pocock, Unaffiliated, Representing Community at Large, Colorado Springs (term expires: 3/13/20)
Thought I would look into a couple of these. Pocock is interesting as she is listed as coming from COS (which is typically Conservative) and "unaffiliated." The "big shitty" thinking we all see but it's odd to see someone from the greater state take such a stand against free speech/association.
First, it looks like she had a strong position as an activist and a score to settle with the opposition long before being appointed to the commission...
https://www.csindy.com/coloradosprin...nt?oid=2962716
https://imgur.com/RWjC6Fu.jpg
Face-CIA-Book is full of far Left activist BS...
https://imgur.com/iNgvgpD.jpg
I think we're probably seeing a public-private partnership in action. Dims appoint activists to key state gov positions, coordinate the targeting of a Coloradan on an issue, use local media to expose the bad thinker, and then use their gov power to make him comply.
They get a social justice victory, crush a bad thinker, and send a message to anyone else who dares to practice a different view.
The fact that Phillips is still in business, alive, and probably doing okay is intolerable to them.
http://coldfury.com/2018/08/15/relentless-2/
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At what point do we draw a line under this and call it what it truly is: government-endrosed and -abetted harrassment and persecution of a member of a hated religion to deny his Contitutionally-protected (supposedly) right to freely practice and express his beliefs?
Fuckin' liberals...
I think we need a COAR-15 meetup with Masterpiece cakes. Think they'll do one with the club logo and maybe some of our favorite fireamrs depicted?
I'm in!Quote:
Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter
Let's also do this to a "less than amenable" baker. Think it will get as much press/court time?
Can we make sure that Kazoo vid is nuked first?
I don’t want Mr. Phillips to get the wrong about a bunch of guys coming into his shop and asking for a cake...
So are you calling in our order? I'm okay with anything just not chocolate/chocolate. Chocolate icing is fine but only on white/yellow cake.Quote:
Originally Posted by foxtrot
[Coffee]
[serious]I think he's fighting because he was singled out in the beginning and he's the 1/100 that will fight merely for sake of fighting because he feels he is right. This is the kind of spirit our nation was built upon and how Colorado was (fiercely independent) before the Great Kalifornication. If not for "my business, my rules" then at least for staying true to one's own conscious.
You're 100% right about the system and the potential losses. Not to mention the cost to his happiness, health, and family throughout all of this. I hope he is getting some legal aid/costs covered.
I do think the USSC has to take this up at some point. There is a huge conflict between the implied rights in the 14th Amendment and the First Amendment. Activists seem to want to push this issue with Christians but it could happen with other groups as well.
This is something where I wouldn't scoff at a GoFundMe page.
That would be up to Phillips... I can hazard a guess how a conservative would feel about that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
Some may find this video offensive. I know it was made to a be a comedy. But I think it really reflects the spirit of this case. It is also funny as $h!t
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3h6es6zh1c
Would a conservative feel like banding together to fight a common enemy, or hanging separately?Quote:
Originally Posted by 68Charger
Well, that seems to be a week point vs the socialist types... they tend to not like charity, it's that whole independent streak. Socialists will give money that doesn't even belong to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
I don't know Phillips, so maybe he'd be up for it... I did say it was a guess.
I was playing off the saying that I can't remember.
"We all must hang together, or we'll surely hang separately." Something like that.
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Originally Posted by Irving
Didn't recognize it at first.Quote:
Originally Posted by Benjamin Franklin
That smirking d-bag Peter Strzok raised $250k in 24 hours and he's not even in legal trouble...yet...Quote:
Originally Posted by 68Charger
The left very happy to pour money into their own. They operate like a single entity. It's amazing.
I say good for the baker fighting this. Whatever it costs. It's his choice and he's standing up for himself.
Yet they accuse Phillips of being the bully. Dissident would be more appropriate with the Kolorado regime breathing down his neck.Quote:
Originally Posted by hollohas
The most unrealistic part is the end where he goes "Oh, I'm not persecuted, I'm just an asshole" ... they'll never have that moment of clarity.Quote:
Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy
Which is where they'll be triggered and hate the video... so good trolling vid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zundfolge
I don't think they made the vid to enact social change
https://adflegal.org/enough-is-enoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Irving
We went to Masterpiece Bakery and I got me a double-fudge brownie and my girl got a red velvet cupcake.
Delicious.
Now I have food coma.