California Prop 8 Overturned By Openly Gay Judge

Plus, whether your burn in hell or not is none of the government's or anyone's business. Let the government put a "sin tax" on gay marriage and those fuckers will be all for the idea.

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Originally Posted by Ranger

A good example would be in Muslim society where hand for a hand is still practiced, while we see it as barbaric in the west. I think religion has done a lot to build societal norms.

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I must apologize, but I find it ironic that a "Good Catholic" calls one of a differing faith Barbaric, considering the amount of blood that has been shed in the name of God and Church. I'm Not trying to bust your balls for it or anything I just found it ironic.

I am not Muslim, or Catholic or Christian or anything. My Faith is mine alone and I refuse to tie it to a church doctrine that will change with the wind.
A Good example would be Some churches policies on Gays in Religion.... Ive seen Pancakes that flip less.

my 2cents

Government has zero business defining what "marriage" is. Everyone should be able to enter into a legally binding contract with someone else, and expect the government to enforce it. If people want to enter a contract and label it "marriage", more power to them. As long as they are legally consenting adults, and are not causing material harm to anyone else, who cares? Remember the golden rule, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."

H.

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Originally Posted by Stuart

If you took a week off of work and put in 8 solid hours a day, I don't think you could be a bigger hypocrite.

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So I'm a hypocrite because my opinion differs from yours? That's pretty gay Stuart.

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Originally Posted by Jumpstart

So I'm a hypocrite because my opinion differs from yours? That's pretty gay Stuart.

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lol at the gay comment. [Beer]

No, you're a hypocrite because 90% of your existence (and everyone else alive) doesn't have a direct correlation to being a "benefit to society."

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Originally Posted by Hoosier

Government has zero business defining what "marriage" is. Everyone should be able to enter into a legally binding contract with someone else, and expect the government to enforce it. If people want to enter a contract and label it "marriage", more power to them. As long as they are legally consenting adults, and are not causing material harm to anyone else, who cares? Remember the golden rule, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."

H.

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Aaaaand I think we're done here. [ROFL1]

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Originally Posted by Stuart

lol at the gay comment. [Beer]

No, you're a hypocrite because 90% of your existence (and everyone else alive) doesn't have a direct correlation to being a "benefit to society."

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Well, being a hypocrite is part of the human experience. Except for me of course.

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Originally Posted by Byte Stryke

I must apologize, but I find it ironic that a "Good Catholic" calls one of a differing faith Barbaric, considering the amount of blood that has been shed in the name of God and Church. I'm Not trying to bust your balls for it or anything I just found it ironic.

I am not Muslim, or Catholic or Christian or anything. My Faith is mine alone and I refuse to tie it to a church doctrine that will change with the wind.
A Good example would be Some churches policies on Gays in Religion.... Ive seen Pancakes that flip less.

my 2cents

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And that happened when? Versus when Muslims took a hand, when? I didn't say or even elude to the fact that religion hasn't had it's fair share of problems, but that the GOOD of the religion is many times what has driven societal norm. I am no denier, I know full well what the Catholic church has done in it's past.

It's funny how the past is "ancient history and irrelevant" when it doesn't support a view one has, but is "completely relevant" when it DOES. Case in point, so many people I know will talk about how sick they are of blacks crying slavery or jews crying holocaust, both of which are far more recent history than the inquisition or Queen Mary.

While priests have been guilty of grave sins in recent history (less than 1% of all priests get 100% of the bad press by the way), I don't think we burned someone at the stake for witchcraft or racked someone for opposing views in some time (and never of either in America - that would be the Quakers).

And yes, SOME churches (Episcopalians) have "changed with the wind" but the Catholic church is far less flexibile in it's doctrines than some other churches are and I can rest assured they will not recognize gay marriage any day soon.

If I'm a bit defensive about my beliefs then I apologize in advance, but it's what I believe in and one shoe most certainly does not fit all and I'm not trying to convince others to believe what I believe, I just simply state my opinion.

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Aaaaand I think we're done here. [ROFL1]

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I think that happened a LONG time ago :).

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Originally Posted by mx'r

Fuck "tolerance". I'm tired of my sons being told at school that it's okay to take it in the ass. It's not. People are sick. If fags want to be together, we should put them all in california and put a fence around it. Get that freak show crap out of the law books and focus on real problems.

ok, I'm done.

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Amen! Finally someone who has the cojones to say that! It's not "right" or "okay" from any standpoint. Physiologically it's impossible for gays to procreate (thank God), from a moral standpoint it's atrocious, and titties are just too much fun! However, I do have to agree the government should stay COMPLETELY out of it. The more the government gets it hands into ANYTHING the more freedom we lose. Now, *sits down at table, lifts up serving spoon from cauldron* AIDS anyone? [Rant1]

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Mx'r your opening line is my new signature I liked it so much!