Hearing Protection Act

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Originally Posted by Teufelhund

For all you folks saying you'll wait until HPA passes to buy a can, have you considered the effects it will have on supply and demand? Currently, the purchase of a suppressor is cost prohibitive and the application process wait time and expense puts most people off. If HPA passes, EVERYONE is going to try to buy a suppressor or two. There is no way the current supply is going to accommodate that increased demand, and not only will there be long out-of-stock issues, the price of in-stock items will instantly increase. I think it's going to take a long time for it to get to the point where you can just go to the gunshop and pick up a new can at a reasonable price.

Thinking out loud... if you were thinking of getting setup to manufacture suppressors for sale (legally of course), you'd probably be in a great position to make some money if HPA passes. Demand will be astronomical.

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So, I had a squirrelly idea. Supposing one could talk their local dealer into it, how about paying for an in-stock suppressor today and just have it set aside until the whole HPA thing plays out?

If it passes and goes into effect you go take possession. If it doesn't pass you go send in the paperwork and wait. Or, if it passes and suppressors suddenly become out of stock everywhere and prices skyrocket you could sell the one you already paid for and make a profit.

I don't think people should stop buying them. As of right now nothing has changed so if you are in the market for one you should go ahead like normal. Pay the fees do the BS paperwork. And sit back and wait. It will help remind you why we need a bill like repealing the NFA or passing the HPA. I bought my first can back in January. I'm not waiting. I'm sure there will be a supply shortage if this passes. Even if its just artificially created one. Right now might be the best time to buy because it sounds like a buyers market.

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Originally Posted by ray1970

So, I had a squirrelly idea. Supposing one could talk their local dealer into it, how about paying for an in-stock suppressor today and just have it set aside until the whole HPA thing plays out?

If it passes and goes into effect you go take possession. If it doesn't pass you go send in the paperwork and wait. Or, if it passes and suppressors suddenly become out of stock everywhere and prices skyrocket you could sell the one you already paid for and make a profit.

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That would be trading a relatively known wait time (~9 months) with a clock timer that starts when you mail off the forms, for a totally unknown wait time which, even worse, is dependent on congress. If they don't pass the HPA, you've wasted all that time waiting when you could have mailed off the forms to begin with. If it does pass before the ATF issues you the stamp, you go pick it up anyways, plus the tax credit. Seems like a terrible idea to me, but then I don't know how other people look at it.

If the HPA passes will it become legal to roll your own?

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Originally Posted by Erni

If the HPA passes will it become legal to roll your own?

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That's already legal in Colorado.


Oh, wait. You mean suppressors.

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Originally Posted by ray1970

That's already legal in Colorado.


Oh, wait. You mean suppressors.

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Yes, roll your own just like starting with an 80% frame.
But would we have to register, and serialize?

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Originally Posted by Erni

Yes, roll your own just like starting with an 80% frame.
But would we have to register, and serialize?

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We don't have to do register or serialize it now. We just can't sell it or at least not make it to be sold.

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Originally Posted by DOC

We don't have to do register or serialize it now. We just can't sell it or at least not make it to be sold.

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Really? Everywhere I've read states that if you plan to build a suppressor, you need to file a Form 1 with ATF before modifying any of the parts.

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Originally Posted by Ronin13

Really? Everywhere I've read states that if you plan to build a suppressor, you need to file a Form 1 with ATF before modifying any of the parts.

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Right on, first get form1 approved then build and engrave your homemade can.

I mean for building your own gun. I'm sure it will be similar when suppressors are deregulated.