Train!

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Originally Posted by Irving

I disagree with this post. I don't carry to run around trying to be a hero. 65 yard shot with a pistol, at a restaurant full of people? That's just stupid.
At that distance I'll just keep out of the line of fire. I don't carry so I can protect people who won't protect themselves.

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I think this sums up my position well. A lack of preparation on your part doesn't constitute an emergency on my part.

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Originally Posted by Zombie Steve

I think this sums up my position well. A lack of preparation on your part doesn't constitute an emergency on my part.

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Especially in a state were it is legal to conceal carry without a permit, I agree.

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Originally Posted by Atrain1

Especially in a state were it is legal to conceal carry without a permit, I agree.

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That is not the great state of Colorado.

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Originally Posted by DOC

That is not the great state of Colorado.

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The shooting didn't happen in Colorado.

Here is my contribution:
The OP needs to understand that every person is different with different abilities. There are numerous tactical training drills that I am unable to perform because of ruptured disk damage and arthritis. I can still do some things well, but running and taking cover are not among them. I can train 10 hours a day, 7 days a week, and the fact that my knees don’t bend won’t change.

I don’t in anyway agree that the individual in question could have neutralized the situation with a 65 yard pistol shot on a moving target with people running around and adrenaline being dumped in his body. Is it possible, yes. Is it probable, no.

If a family member was at risk, then I would be involved without hesitation.

However, if I am a bystander, I have less than a second to consider the following:
1. What happens when his target changes…who am I putting at risk when the AK is bearing down on my position? I would not in any way expect to have a one shot stop at 65 yards from any caliber I use to carry so the chances of this guy changing direction are pretty good.
2. Can I take down this person without putting myself at risk or anybody else? Am I in a position to eliminate the threat? If the answer is no, then it is no.
3. Am I in the way of an LEO or putting myself at risk when one or several arrive?

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Originally Posted by bobbyfairbanks

The shooting didn't happen in Colorado.

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Or in a state where they have constitutional carry. Nevada has some of the most asinine requirements for a permit of any state that is "shall issue".

Their "qualification" requirements for live fire are a joke, but are relevant to this thread. The MAXIMUM distance used is 7 (yes, seven) yards.

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Originally Posted by TFOGGER

Or in a state where they have constitutional carry. Nevada has some of the most asinine requirements for a permit of any state that is "shall issue".

Their "qualification" requirements for live fire are a joke, but are relevant to this thread. The MAXIMUM distance used is 7 (yes, seven) yards.

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I thought Nevada was one of the states that you dont have to have a ccw

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Originally Posted by Atrain1

I thought Nevada was one of the states that you dont have to have a ccw

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Nope. Currently, Alaska, Arizona, Wyoming, and Vermont do not require permits for residents.

Nevada only honors permits from the following:
Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Missouri, Nebraska, Nevada, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio, Rhode Island, Tennessee, West Virginia

No. Live fire required, that's why Utah's reciprocity was recently booted there. [Bang]

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Originally Posted by Graves

No. Live fire required, that's why Utah's reciprocity was recently booted there. [Bang]

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Yeah, I was pissed...Of all the places where a CCW is an excellent idea, Lost Wages is high on the list...