Trump using the Nat Guard to round up illegals?

Yeah this seems to be fake news for at least today... Sounds like next week though, there will be a new EO for illegals.

This brings up a good point though, if he were to use the NG, all he needs is the Govs of the state to approve it and off he goes. One less place he has to send as many feds to. Now for states like ours where Hick will tell him to pound sand, then Trump will need to send more feds into to get the job done. Could be interesting next week if he goes that route.

Am really wondering though, if you are illegal in this country, the motivation has to be there to give up and go back home on your own so that you are not forced to go back. Wonder how many are sneaking back across the border these days?

The thing that gets to me is some of these illegals have been here for decades and never done a thing to get legal !!!!

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Originally Posted by KAPA

This brings up a good point though, if he were to use the NG, all he needs is the Govs of the state to approve it and off he goes. One less place he has to send as many feds to. Now for states like ours where Hick will tell him to pound sand, then Trump will need to send more feds into to get the job done. Could be interesting next week if he goes that route.

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Pretty sure he does not need the Governors approval if he activates under Title 10. A title 32 activation would be state, but mobilization under title 10 makes them federal, which is what happened for the multiple deployments during our recent wars.

EDITED TO ADD: I seem to recall that during Desert Shield/Storm, there were some "Lefty" governors who tried to raise a stink about Bush Sr. mobilizing "THEIR" troops, until someone told them to go look at Title 10 of the US Code. ;)

It also may have been pointed out that every penny used to pay, equip and train those National Guard troops came from Federal, not state, coffers.

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Am really wondering though, if you are illegal in this country, the motivation has to be there to give up and go back home on your own so that you are not forced to go back. Wonder how many are sneaking back across the border these days?

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Can't help but wonder if all these 'trial balloons' are designed to do just that. An 'incentive to leave', as it were.

It actually makes sense. Just as an amnesty today acts as an incentive for illegals to come here in the future (because they might reasonably conclude that if they come here in 2017 and stay long enough, they might be able to stay in under some future amnesty), a proposal to 'crack down' using a variety of methods could be both an incentive for those here now to return, so they can 'beat the rush', and also a DIS-incentive for others to come here.

Is there something that makes everyone forget recent history? Bush used National Guard to support Border Patrol in 2007.

Trump is winnowing out the scallywags who run to the press, this is an old espionage trick.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-0...rized-immigran

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AP reported that according to a draft 11-page memo, the Trump administration is considering mobilizing as many as 100,000 National Guard troops to round up illegal immigrants. However, the White House quickly slammed the agency’s report is “false." In yet another leak-counterleak example of "spot the fake news" , moments after the AP report hit, the White House denied everything

This is not true. DHS also confirms it is 100% false https://t.co/MFIJci7XaU
— Sean Spicer (@PressSec) February 17, 2017

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Funny to watch fake news backfire.
These leftist idiots want to protect criminal aliens, so they try to create a backlash using fake Trump orders.
However, they instill fear in the criminals and some will bail back over the border.
Love it.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-0...national-guard

DHS now saying it was an early draft of proposals.
The Key paragraph:

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"I am directing the Commissioner of CBP and the Director of ICE to immediately engage with the Governors of the States adjacent to the land border with Mexico and to those states adjoining such border States for the purpose of entering into agreements of section 287(g) of the INA to authorize qualified members of the state National Guard, while such members are not in federal service, or qualified members of a state militia or state defense force under the command of the Governor, to perform the functions of an immigration officer in relation to the apprehension, investigation and detention of aliens in the United States."

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I see nothing wrong with this, and it has been done before.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/poli...133332154.html

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In 2010, former President Barack Obama said he would deploy 1,200 National Guard troops to the U.S.-Mexico border. They were sent to Arizona, Texas, California and New Mexico. While National Guard troops were not authorized to arrest people found to be crossing the border illegally, they helped staff observation posts, monitor surveillance footage and build fences.

In 2006, former President George W. Bush called up 6,000 National Guard troops to California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas. They were commissioned to help install border barriers, provide training and assist with border surveillance. The deployment was designed to support Customs and Border Protection agents in “executing logistical and administrative support, operating detection systems, providing mobile communications, augmenting border-related intelligence analysis efforts, and building and installing border security infrastructure.” Operation Jump Start, as the project was called, hoped to relieve Border Patrol agents from administrative duties so they could instead focus on border security.

According to Customs and Border Protection, the operation resulted in the apprehension of 5,003 people, 110 vehicles, $11,052, 28,577 pounds of marijuana and 1,447 pounds of cocaine.

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Originally Posted by Martinjmpr

Pretty sure he does not need the Governors approval if he activates under Title 10. A title 32 activation would be state, but mobilization under title 10 makes them federal, which is what happened for the multiple deployments during our recent wars.

EDITED TO ADD: I seem to recall that during Desert Shield/Storm, there were some "Lefty" governors who tried to raise a stink about Bush Sr. mobilizing "THEIR" troops, until someone told them to go look at Title 10 of the US Code. ;)

It also may have been pointed out that every penny used to pay, equip and train those National Guard troops came from Federal, not state, coffers.



Can't help but wonder if all these 'trial balloons' are designed to do just that. An 'incentive to leave', as it were.

It actually makes sense. Just as an amnesty today acts as an incentive for illegals to come here in the future (because they might reasonably conclude that if they come here in 2017 and stay long enough, they might be able to stay in under some future amnesty), a proposal to 'crack down' using a variety of methods could be both an incentive for those here now to return, so they can 'beat the rush', and also a DIS-incentive for others to come here.

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Good points! HOOAH!

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Originally Posted by roberth

Trump is winnowing out the scallywags who run to the press, this is an old espionage trick.

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Very dangerous strategy if you ask me, which Trump did not.

Libtards are angry and violent already. Give their virtue signalizing a faux moral foundation, like protecting the underclass they exploit from the National Guard under Trump's order and things could get really interesting.

What would say the governor of Colorado do in such a case?

It is obvious we need a new Department of Propaganda.