What's the point

As pointed out above, natives and slaves were not citizens. This didn't mean that immigration, which was supposed to be controlled by the Federal government, would be an utter and complete failure.

In a past census, my great grandfather was included by the head of the household as a "Servant". In the census description it said "Works on the farm".

If they were able to identify Civil War veterans as part of a census, why the hell can't they ask if you're a citizen. If you're here illegally and are afraid to answer, you shouldn't be here. No government funds should be available as a result. This would certainly put an end to 'sanctuary cities' or states.

It doesn't really matter what was done in the past.

I'm not saying that I agree or disagree, just pointing out that just because something happened in the past, doesn't make it the end all/be all determiner of how things are done now.

I would agree that the Federal government doesn't need to put money toward illegals in a general sense, but as with everything in life, it's usually not a black and white issue.

My point is, why do we have to keep on creating more and more government "solutions" due to the same bastidges not doing their Constitutionally appointed duties?

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Originally Posted by Gman

My point is, why do we have to keep on creating more and more government "solutions" due to the same bastidges not doing their Constitutionally appointed duties?

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I don't think I'd argue that point by itself.

I've long been saying that we don't live in a Republic or a Democracy but instead live in a judicial oligarchy overseeing an administrative state.

Make everything illegal, then whomever is in power can pick and choose who is targeted due to selected enforcement. Sounds like nirvana.

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Originally Posted by Gman

Make everything illegal, then whomever is in power can pick and choose who is targeted due to selected enforcement. Sounds like nirvana.

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Smells Like Teen Spirit. [LOL]

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Originally Posted by cstone

Smells Like Teen Spirit. [LOL]

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[off-yourself]

Too soon?

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Originally Posted by Zundfolge

I've long been saying that we don't live in a Republic or a Democracy but instead live in a judicial oligarchy overseeing a fifth column.

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FIFY

In my opinion the census has become a marketing tool to ensure a captive population. The big things are race and income. These and other demographics are used by business interests to determine where to build profit making infrastructure and what can be charged for goods based on that set of demographics. Why do items in the Timnath Walmart cost more that the same item in the Fort collins Walmart. The same for gasoline, and other goods and services. It also helps to determine what wages will be paid to workers.

The census is used to separate people from their money and therefore make it harder for people to get a step up. Judging by the complaints by gov' workers that aren't getting paid, it seems that almost everyone is living paycheck to paycheck. The information in the census was, I am sure, used to determine what the insurance companies can charge for health insurance. Ever so slowly the free market is disappearing, never to return.

The census should only be used to make a count, not collect every detail of every person.