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I think you missed the point.Quote:
Originally Posted by jim
As well as stopping burglars from kicking in the door, it will delay everybody so that you can determine what is going on.
A bad guy is going to take a few kicks and then move on.
A team is going to take a few whacks and then talk about what to do.
At least I wont have to confront anyone right away and get my head shot off while trying to determine who's who.
I think it will slow them down so I don't get inadvertently shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy
anybody even considered the cost of putting a door like this on each entry into your home?
I would love to have all of my doors super secure. but, there is the expense thing. an angle iron frame around your door and a good fire door would be much cheaper.
a vault door from Liberty starts at $6200. I would expect these doors could cost that much or close.
Sorry, you're not looking at the big picture. Outside of the random home invasion all break ins were planned in advance. They know your routine, time leaving, coming home and how many people are in the house. I don't care if you have 3/8" steel plate, if i want in there is always a way.Quote:
Originally Posted by hip55
Do you know what the biggest deterrent to break ins are outside of a barking dog?? Having any outside lights on, no alternate access to the home, garage doors open etc.
If you make the home look more secure than it is they will move to the next house on the block.
Not to say even with the precautions you take will prevent some form of attempted entry.
As for it being a team "Taking a few whacks" the feds want in they are already sitting down waiting for the coffee to be done.
You guys really misunderstood what this thread is about.
It's not about Feds making coffee after leisurely entering your home or professional burglars casing your house before a break-in.
It's about time, and providing you time to prepare for whoever is trying to kick or knock in your door UNANNOUNCED.
Burglary statistics are like zits, everybody has some!
Far and away the most common burglary is by someone who knows you, and your home. Typically, a young person who has had at least casual access to your home and knows things about you - which is why they will go through a window or some other area more easily entered.
Professional burglars are always changing their tactics. The most common is the "knock and enter" scenario, one goes door to door "selling" things - if you answer they try to give you a spiel, usually about something mundane - like replacement windows. If you DONT answer, they alert their accomplices, who follow behind you, you stay on the street going to other doors - while they pull up in the driveway, pop the door, park in the garage and steal you blind. They always have their lookout on the street to tell them if the cops are showing up.
Failure to gain easy entrance usually stops these guys, so this method would work.
But most people aren't burglarized by professionals. There was a rash of burglaries in heather ridge area of aurora a few years back. About 45 of them along the golf course... At the end the burglars were actually entering WHILE the residents were home - using patio doors. Turns out to be two drug users who occupied a 3rd story apartment above the fairways - one did the lookout thing on the balcony, while the other did the burglary.
There are cheaper and better solutions, even to the weak frame problem. It's called barring the door. There are a lot of cheap methods that will help you do this, standard lumber works pretty well. Warning, if you have a NORMAL door, no matter how well you back it with bars, the door itself might fail - best to use a steel clad SOLID core door (fire rated commercial). Barring gets around the weak frame problem, if you do it correctly.
But I've seen the story too, and frankly it's one STATE court ruling in a very specific case - it's almost sure to be thrown out at a higher court and the ACLU is probably on the case as we speak, so the appeal WILL happen (I got an ACLU email about this, so I know they're on it).
We, as citizens, need to start being more active when we talk to your 'representatives' and hold them to the fire when we talk about our civil rights, all too often they'll say one thing to get elected, and totally forget that they promised to be honest and ethical. We should be asking MORE that just "what do you feel about gun rights" we need to get them on videotape making statements that we can hold against them when the time comes, an HONEST politician wont mind one bit. Buy hey... they're politicians!
I like this door though!
I'm with you on your intent Hip.