Patriot Act For/Against?

I have always been AGAINST the ..........UN-patriot act.

Nada vote.

It has lasted through two presidents and I can't say it has done anything, except line the pockets of a few.

Wow just looked at this again and I find it nearly unfathomable that on this site of all places there are even 6 votes supporting the systematic dismantlement of our constitution. Guess no matter where you are there are always those willing to say "baaaaaaaahhhhh"

When this first came up I was for it in concept but as the details emerged about how far reaching and violating it is I no longer saw it as a good idea. It smacks of KGB tactics, just snatch people away in the dark of night for no apparent reason - never to be seen or heard from again. Scary stuff. I watched a movie recently with Sam Jackson where he was interrogating a terrorist and in one way you are like "yeah!" but in another you have to think "holy crap, that's just scary they could do that"

Like communism it is great in IDEA but will never work in real life.

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Originally Posted by bobbyfairbanks

Like communism it is great in IDEA but will never work in real life.

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Would you do us all a big favor and go knock on Barry's door and let him know that? Thaaaaaaaanks (Office Space reference...)

Already tried but was asked to leave. I didn't donate enough to the campaign effort

Against it from day one. The economy can be fixed, gun laws can be fixed, debt can be fixed, and so on, however, damage done to the Constitution seems to be permanent and pervasive. I don't for a second think we need Constitutional rule bending to beat these terrorist turds.

I'm guessing our military and intelligence community have thwarted many terrorist attacks, but I really doubt that the "Patriot" act has had anything to do with it.

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Originally Posted by Elhuero

we let the terrorists win if we abridge our freedoms because of their actions.

we need to be as free as possible, and when we find a terrorist deal with them in the harshest manner possible.

just so everyone understands my definition of "harsh", when a suicide bomber attacks troops in afghanistan, we id them then delete their whole family.

everyone related to them joins them in martyrdom. the families of the 19 hijackers? uh huh, I went there.

I agree with bailey, there are parts of it that are worth keeping, but I voted no.

one of the things that bush did after 9/11 was to create a new agency, I think that's the last bloody thing we needed. we need to shut half the government down, now, or we'll end up worse than greece.

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+1, excellent [Beer]