Indiana First State to Allow Citizens to Shoot Police.

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Originally Posted by Zundfolge

Life is all about managing statistical probability.

I operate under the assumption that since I don't engage in illegal activity that would draw a dynamic entry team to my door that the percentage probability that it is criminals posing as police and not the police themselves is significantly greater. Furthermore while we are all familiar with the idea that occasionally police SWAT teams make mistakes, end up at the wrong door or get bad intel, those events are still very very rare.

So the statistical probability is that its criminals attempting a home invasion robbery. I will respond accordingly.


I agree, the policies regarding no-knocks need serious revision.

Frankly the only legitimate reason for our police to engage in such para-military activity is in an active shooter or hostage rescue situation. Period.

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All it takes is for some one to tell the goon squad (atf) that you have a wanted fellon inside and the will be there. They may not even kick the door? They may just open fire? Or they will kick the door and hold your whole family in cuffs at gun point while they shoot your your pets. History has proven that you can be law abiding and still get no-knocked due to bad intel and a lack of brain power. And by god if they have to come out they are at least shooting your pet!

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Originally Posted by Zundfolge

Life is all about managing statistical probability.

I operate under the assumption that since I don't engage in illegal activity that would draw a dynamic entry team to my door that the percentage probability that it is criminals posing as police and not the police themselves is significantly greater. Furthermore while we are all familiar with the idea that occasionally police SWAT teams make mistakes, end up at the wrong door or get bad intel, those events are still very very rare.

So the statistical probability is that its criminals attempting a home invasion robbery. I will respond accordingly.


I agree, the policies regarding no-knocks need serious revision.

Frankly the only legitimate reason for our police to engage in such para-military activity is in an active shooter or hostage rescue situation. Period.

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couldnt have said it better myself.... very well said..

The thing that really makes me dislike no knocks is. Most of the officers ionly know that they are raiding a certain address. I would hate for an officer to get shot just following the orders of the higher ups. Just like an innocent person getting shot by a wrong address no knock raid. These things need to really be reviewed more.

Does it really matter?
You open fire on LE during a no knock, be they right or wrong do you really think your going to survive?

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Originally Posted by BPTactical

Does it really matter?
You open fire on LE during a no knock, be they right or wrong do you really think your going to survive?

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+1. Yep my thought exactly.

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Originally Posted by Ranger

an unlawful entry is an unlawful entry and should be met with the same measure of deadly force that anyone else would get.

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exactly

don't unlawfully enter my house and we have no issues.

Makes cops do the due their due deligience,homework as they should. Indiana is a bit freer for it's citizens today.

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Originally Posted by BPTactical

Does it really matter?
You open fire on LE during a no knock, be they right or wrong do you really think your going to survive?

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The probability is, that if someone's kicking in my door, someone is going to die. It may be me...but my job as a husband and father is to make sure it's not my wife and children. There's absolutely no legal reason for anyone to be kicking in my door. To me, it is substantially more likely that whomever it is, is intent on doing myself and/or my family harm. In my home, that threat is met with armed resistance.

The police are welcome to ring my doorbell and/or call my home at anytime...and that conversation will be friendly and polite (even if I decide that my lawyer needs to be involved)

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Originally Posted by BPTactical

Does it really matter?
You open fire on LE during a no knock, be they right or wrong do you really think your going to survive?

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Another reason to have body armor at the ready. They are more likely to shoot first if they see a gun. I for one would identify my target before putting my finger on the trigger.