Indiana First State to Allow Citizens to Shoot Police.

[BPTactical]

Does it really matter?
You open fire on LE during a no knock, be they right or wrong do you really think your going to survive?

[ruthabagah]

Does it really matter?
You open fire on LE during a no knock, be they right or wrong do you really think your going to survive?

+1. Yep my thought exactly.

[JoeT]

Does it really matter?
You open fire on LE during a no knock, be they right or wrong do you really think your going to survive?

The probability is, that if someone's kicking in my door, someone is going to die. It may be me...but my job as a husband and father is to make sure it's not my wife and children. There's absolutely no legal reason for anyone to be kicking in my door. To me, it is substantially more likely that whomever it is, is intent on doing myself and/or my family harm. In my home, that threat is met with armed resistance.

The police are welcome to ring my doorbell and/or call my home at anytime...and that conversation will be friendly and polite (even if I decide that my lawyer needs to be involved)

[SuperiorDG]

Does it really matter?
You open fire on LE during a no knock, be they right or wrong do you really think your going to survive?

Another reason to have body armor at the ready. They are more likely to shoot first if they see a gun. I for one would identify my target before putting my finger on the trigger.

[Ranger]

Another reason to have body armor at the ready. They are more likely to shoot first if they see a gun. I for one would identify my target before putting my finger on the trigger.

Yes, but what if they are undercover. Now they SHOULD have a visible sign of being LEO, that should be the first clue. Secondly, I assume you don't wear your body armor 24/7 and if you do then I don't think I would like to smell what you're puttin' off .

[T-Giv]

Another reason to have body armor at the ready. They are more likely to shoot first if they see a gun. I for one would identify my target before putting my finger on the trigger.

That is completely false. Police are not just going to start shooting if they see a gun. They deal with people having guns a lot more than private Joe's. If you are holding a gun, follow their orders precisely, they will take it away from you with no fire being exchanged. They will then figure out that they royally f-ed up and are not in the right place. Going rambo against the cops because you have a duty to protect your family is not the right answer. Hell, I hope that the cops come unlawfully enter my home. Maybe they will hit me with a taser while they are in there! Then I can land a fat law suit and never work another day in my life....because being a cop sucks!

[lowspeed_highdrag]

That is completely false. Police are not just going to start shooting if they see a gun. They deal with people having guns a lot more than private Joe's. If you are holding a gun, follow their orders precisely, they will take it away from you with no fire being exchanged. They will then figure out that they royally f-ed up and are not in the right place. Going rambo against the cops because you have a duty to protect your family is not the right answer. Hell, I hope that the cops come unlawfully enter my home. Maybe they will hit me with a taser while they are in there! Then I can land a fat law suit and never work another day in my life....because being a cop sucks!

There's a dead Marine who would disagree with your statement if only he could....

[T-Giv]

There's a dead Marine who would disagree with your statement if only he could....

Well I can't speak either way on that one because I was not there. What you are describing sounds like poor training for whoever shot him or he was acting in a way that portrayed a threat to the officer that shot him. Once again I was not there so I can speak with no authority. I can; however, say that it is wrong to generalize that the police in general will start shooting if they see a gun when entering a home. Every cop is a person just like those that are not. There is no way to be certain. But as stated above flexing your muscles and escalating things to a lethal level because the police entered your home unlawfully will never yield good results for either side.

[sniper7]

Well I can't speak either way on that one because I was not there. What you are describing sounds like poor training for whoever shot him or he was acting in a way that portrayed a threat to the officer that shot him. Once again I was not there so I can speak with no authority. I can; however, say that it is wrong to generalize that the police in general will start shooting if they see a gun when entering a home. Every cop is a person just like those that are not. There is no way to be certain. But as stated above flexing your muscles and escalating things to a lethal level because the police entered your home unlawfully will never yield good results for either side.

would you not agree then that you have not the authority to generalize if the police would NOT shoot?

[T-Giv]

would you not agree then that you have not the authority to generalize if the police would NOT shoot?

I do agree with that. As I stated the police are just people as well. Every person perceives differently, has different levels of training, different levels of experience, different levels of skill, their personalities are different. Not to mention all of these things change on a daily basis.

Regarding the dog issue, not long ago we had an officer get attacked by two pitts, I mean ATTACKED. They started going to town on his legs. He had serious gashes and bite marks on his legs. He was trying to get away but they kept pursuing him. They got him down onto his knees and started jumping at his face. He drew down and killed them both. The homeowner sued him for killing her "beloved babies".