To be fair I don't know Dudley, he's a fellow gun nut so he's probably an ok guy that I'd enjoy having a few beers with.
I think he just gets caught up in trying to differentiate himself and his organization from the NRA.
To be fair I don't know Dudley, he's a fellow gun nut so he's probably an ok guy that I'd enjoy having a few beers with.
I think he just gets caught up in trying to differentiate himself and his organization from the NRA.
I agree. Dumb move Dud. Way to show the anti's how easily we can be divided! What a Croc!Quote:
Originally Posted by hatidua
So the nra has never hung us out to dry over back door deals before?
I believe the NRA has at times agreed to support legislation they didn't like but considered less dangerous than alternatives but "hung us out to dry"? No, I don't believe that -- certainly not the extent portrayed by RMGO and GOA. Please note I am NOT telling you to drop RMGO or GOA if you're members or supporters. I simply consider Dudley's over-the-top rhetoric counterproductive and it lost MY support.
Did they "hang us out to dry over back door deals" or did they just not get everything they wanted in deals with recalcitrant Democrats?Quote:
Originally Posted by trlcavscout
If you always go around demanding "All or Nothing", you end up getting "Nothing" a lot. That's not an excuse for caving too easily (and maybe that's what the NRA did in the situations you're thinking about) but you can't expect the NRA to win 100% of the time.
That was nearly 20 years ago... keep that in mind. It appears they're a little more steadfast this time around, and it would seem that they're a totally different organization now. I'll err on the side of caution, but their latest track record over the past couple months have led me to believe we can place more faith in them than 1994.Quote:
Originally Posted by trlcavscout
WTF are you talking about Ronin? The NRA fought the AWB pretty damned hard and used its passage to defeat a lot of the Democrats who were responsible for that POS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronin13
I can see that. The NRA has made some mistakes, and it appears that they've learned a lot from them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter
...and now is not the time for Pro 2A groups to be flinging poop at one another.
I actually believe this will be a real litmus test for the 'new' NRA. They got their arse handed to them by their members after the first AWB -- and there was a concentrated effort to make the duck hunters go the fuck away. It didn't wildly succeed -- but there a few people on the board now with some common sense and a love for black rifles. Its no where near a majority and there are a whole bunch of them that care more about their Company's bottom line than your rights as an individual.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gman
If the NRA fucks us on this -- and I define fucks us as ANY new restrictions on gun/magazine ownership in ANY way -- I pray that there will be a massive exodus from the NRA membership. It wouldn't be good for us, as a whole bunch of splinter groups would pop up - and we would loose any notion of a combined voice. But I'd have a smaller few speak the truth than a large majority of liars.
I joined RMGO several weeks back as I think every single pro-2A group needs to be supported right now. If they pull this kind of stunt, they'll never see another penny of my money. LISTENING DUDLEY?????Quote:
Originally Posted by hatidua