Cold enough to kill the Hep A too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinjmpr
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...tis-a-outbreak
Doesn't change the fact that you are still literally walking through shit when you go downtown. Literally.
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Cold enough to kill the Hep A too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinjmpr
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...tis-a-outbreak
Doesn't change the fact that you are still literally walking through shit when you go downtown. Literally.
I just got HAV and tetanus shot again last primary visit.
I think HAV are contegious mainly through food, not dirty sidewalk. Maybe they should bleach shower illegal street food vendors. :)
You can watch them live from the Everett tweaker cam.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGwNIbNtRi4
No guys, pot and liberal democrat policies have nothing to do with it. Not sure about outerspace aliens or Mexicans. I will say that most of the Mexicans I've hired over the years busted their freaking asses though.
Yep, I was grossed out by Portland. Took pictures to prove it. I thought no one would believe people camping in sidewalks, and the look of a tird world country. <<I saw this and decided it didn't need correcting.
The Platte River has tons of camping and people pooing where ever. I saw a plea from the port-a-let service for when they doc use it. Bear Creek Park is full of nasty camping too.
They should track down previous owner of Ink cafe and make him accountable for selling the property to a terrible person. He could have opened a 501c liquor co-op.
I see a lot of homeless in Pueblo. I think some are veterans traumatized by the wars. I didn't vote for Hillary. Aliens are real. Mexicans do great work, last people I hired were Mexicans.
It is so sad that the American Dream has escaped the unfortunate few. An ancient Roman soldier preached that the greatest of all things was charity. His name was JESVS CHRISTVS. Later as a veteran he was tortured for his beliefs. Try to be charitable.
This for Golden too. I’ve only lived here 15 years, but it is amazing how it has changed, and really in the past 2-4 most. You can’t go outside in summer without smelling it. Parks, on lookout (riding lariat on roadie or chimney on mtb), or even around the creek. :( There is no pot here, but proximity has people bringing it from wherever. With it, a slight uptick in the sleeping outside crowd. I’d sympathize with this, but I think these are less the mentally ill and more the “check out of society” type.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zundfolge
I don't want to derail any threads with comments I've made in others, but even this issue seems more related to population increase, than to pot and liberals. Neither of the latter help the situation, but people have been flocking to Colorado for 30-40 years now? Any place that has an increase in population will have an increase in every other problem as well. We can all stand around and point to people moving here after legal weed, but the Rocky Mountains and John Denver are responsible for a greater number of people moving here than pot and liberals are. Weed becomes legal in more and more places every year. Once more than half of the country legalizes weed, what will everyone blame our problems on then?Quote:
Originally Posted by GilpinGuy
Irving is correct, mainly population. Colorado is a beautiful place and many, many people want to live here. I'm hoping for an absolutely brutal winter but I don't think we're gonna get one this coming season.
I have a question for those of you who travel around the metro area alot. How many people do you observe giving money to panhandlers?
Too manyQuote:
Originally Posted by roberth
Then the word is out that Colorado is an easy place to get money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo
I don't give them anything, I observe them as I approach to see how aggressive they are.
I had to think, but I guess I have seen people get handed money when I'm sitting at a light. I've only seen it 2-3 times that I can think of, but I'm just one guy sitting through one light cycle. If they got handed something every three lights, that'd be more than I would have imagined. Homeless population has been going up around my house recently, and especially the panhandlers at the Home Depot; there are a few that I even recognize now. I don't like it any more than anyone else. It'd be nice if no one gave them money, but some people have a difficult time separating their emotions long enough to realize that a, probably significant, portion of people coherent enough to make signs and ask for money, are willfully in the position they are in and do not wish to change.
In the Ranch, I have watched people hold up the exit ramps on a green light giving money. Us working stiffs just want to get home before our kids go to bed (sometimes I don't make it). I guess our time doesn't matter, what's a few more minutes sitting on a Colorado road?Quote:
Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo
I posted this in the Nextdoor thread back in August...
Read that one carefully. Linda confuses charity with funding a bum's habits and then pats herself on the back for raising her kids so well because they're just as dumb. But not before digressing into complete stupidity with the AntiFa support.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skip
Meanwhile, the people who need legitimate charity are deprived of help so Linda can virtue signal.
Beat me too it. This is the real problem. I live in the fort but travel all over Denver metro and up to mid Wyoming for work and I can't think of anywhere that people don't hand out free money. Years ago the newspaper had an article about a many in fort Collins that panhandled before and after work at a major intersection. He made a pretty hefty bouns, in the 5 figure range.Quote:
Originally Posted by roberth
They say the worst thing you can do is give money to a homeless person on the street, if you want to help give it a legitimate organization that works at getting them working on off the street not just funding a habit. I have no problem helping people who need help,everyone needs help at some point with something, but most homeless around here don't want help they want a hand outQuote:
Originally Posted by Skip
That is 100% correct! Anyone who has tried to help quickly learns this. The vast majority of homelessness is choice and funding that lifestyle makes the choice sustainable. This is what makes the problem hard to solve.Quote:
Originally Posted by fitterjohn
We hear Libs talk about the massive amount of funding needed to "cure homeless" because they (by design) cast a wide net. Carve this problem down to those who really don't have a choice (mental health, disability) and the problem gets easier to solve.
There are organizations that are very good about drawing this line. Salvation Army, Denver Rescue Mission, local churches etc... Give to them. Even just the $20 that would have gone to a panhandler helps.
"I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I traveled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer. "
-Benjamin Franklin, On the Price of Corn and Management of the Poor, November 1766
The thing I get tired of hearing people say is how unfair the housing market is in fort Collins. Yep it's freaking expensive to rent a place in fort Collins, lots of really high paying jobs, but guess what you don't have to live in this town either. Everyday I hear someone say how hard it is to live here on a low paying job, well move out of here.
Yup I get a monthly news letter from Denver Rescue Mission and even they say handouts are a temporary fix and for long term help refer the homeless to them and their programs.Quote:
Originally Posted by fitterjohn
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Originally Posted by roberth
Way too damn many.Quote:
Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo
^^This.Quote:
Originally Posted by roberth
I also categorize them.
Lowlife sum bag - 60%
Major addiction - 10%
Mental defective - 10%
Regular folk struggling - 10%
Assorted others - 10%
Anecdotal based on my personal observation over last 10yrs of traveling front range daily for work.
I absolutely despise these people standing at intersections or in places of public accommodation. That is not the location to get assistance/helping hand to get back on the path.
If you're unarmed, you are a victim
I'd go a step further and say giving panhandlers money is not even a temporary fix but is instead doing harm to them. They have to hit bottom so they'll seek help and/or straighten their shit out ... keeping them in pocket money keeps them hovering just above bottom ... low enough that their life stinks but not quite low enough to cross the "its time to do something about this" threshold.Quote:
Originally Posted by StagLefty
The problem there is lots of those people don't think their life stinks. If Yu have known and or talked to any most of them think your life is the one that sucks. They don't have to answer to anyone or be reasonable for anything. Literally just sit around all day and be high or drunk.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zundfolge
This is another reason why I avoid downtown as much as humanly possible. It's gotten disgusting, especially in the last 8 years or so. And 16th street mall used to be a fairly decent place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skip
Not sure if joking... but I don't see the Ink Coffee owner being a terrible person. Terrible sense of humor, maybe, but they thought they were on to a good business idea by putting up shop in an up-and-coming (supposedly) trendy area.Quote:
Originally Posted by ben4372
I would say that you can't discount pot 100% as not being a contributing factor. It's definitely not helped...Quote:
Originally Posted by roberth
I see idiots, er people handing money to panhandlers all the time at the ramp from 36 at Church Ranch. I shake my head every time. I've even had one get mad at me near E Colfax at Quebec because I refused to acknowledge his presence right next to my truck.
I dunno about Denver, but I have noticed that ever since the pot legalization there are shitbirds begging at intersections that were not there before.
I see people with sign asking money all the way to 14th and I25.
KevDen is right. This problem is certain to get worse before it gets better. I think we can all agree since Colorado's legalization of weed we have all felt the massive influx of people moving here (both good and bad). Housing prices have soared to the point that my dreams of actually living in one means I'm going to have to find one that is empty and squat in it and make them evict me. I have noticed a significant increase in homeless people panhandling on street corners throughout the metro area. I don't give them money - ever. Many that I see panhandling appear to be fully capable at working if they chose to do so. I absolutely refuse to go to downtown Denver because it's degraded to a crime ridden shit hole.
There is a sucker born every minute. What a moron though. The very definition of sheeple.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skip
Yeah the homeless are so helpless. on e of the bastards helped himself by breaking into my truck and 3 others in the neighborhood.
It would be interesting to see the number of crimes committed by transients vs everyone else. I see a lot of them commit minor crimes when it starts to get really cold so they can be taken to jail and out of the cold and given 3 hots and a cot.Quote:
Originally Posted by tmjohnson
Here is a fitting article about using robots to deter homeless.
https://techcrunch.com/2017/12/13/se...ss-population/
I would use a Cyberdyne Systems Model 101 for scaring off the homeless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
People stop at green lights to give them money!Quote:
Originally Posted by roberth
My buddy used to work at the Sushi place near downtown, one day he got off with a box of leftover sushi, and saw a homeless guy in the parking lot. He gave it to the homeless, they guy barely acknowledged that, didn't say thank you or anything. When my buddy was pulling out of the parking lot he saw the homeless taking a photo of the sushi with a smartphone. He never gave homeless people a thing after that.
Wealthy Bel-Air wrestles with homeless crisis after encampment fire burns homes
The denial is strong with them.Quote:
In the tony hillside neighborhoods of Bel-Air and Brentwood, residents say they are aware of the homeless that live in the shadows of their multimillion-dollar homes.
The affluent area along the 405 Freeway in the Sepulveda Pass, home to celebrities, corporate titans and others, has not been immune to the homeless crisis that has spread across the city. Some residents express sympathy and concern for the homeless, others are wary and want them out.
But the Skirball fire, which destroyed homes and forced the evacuation of a large chunk of Bel-Air, has put the homeless issue at the forefront of community debate. Fire officials say the fire was caused by a cooking fire at a homeless camp along the 405. Investigators say the fire was accidentally set but have not been able to find those who occupied the camp.
Resident Alma Soll, whose balcony was covered with soot by the fire, said the homeless population is a part of life in the area but that the fire was disconcerting.
"It's scary," said Soll, 70.
Many residents said they don’t want to demonize the homeless but also worry about the fire danger in the wake of the blaze, which spread quickly after starting Dec. 6 and was 85% under control Wednesday morning.
"I really sympathize and empathize with these people," said Craig Conner, 53. “If my house were one of the six that burned down, maybe I'd be more angry," he added.
Nickie Miner, vice president of the Bel Air-Beverly Crest Neighborhood Council, said residents have long worried about the fire hazard from hillside homeless encampments, but “all the agencies’ hands seemed to be tied.”
“We knew it was only going to be a matter of time before something horrible happened,” Miner said.
Miner said she was skeptical of the proposed campaign to educate homeless people about fire risks. Los Angeles needs a massive regulatory overhaul like the one that followed the 1961 Bel-Air fire, she said, which should include eliminating hillside encampments.
Debate about camps and the fire danger come as Los Angeles is struggling with a rise in the homeless population. An annual count in May found that the homeless population of Los Angeles County had soared 23% to nearly 58,000 people in the last year. In the West L.A. service area — including Bel-Air and Brentwood — the homeless population rose 18%, from 4,659 to 5,511, in the same time period, the count found.
Photos taken of the Sepulveda encampment in September and shared with The Times showed a cluster of green and olive tarpaulins stretched across a canyon, partially hidden by treetops and brush.
The camp is “a little obscure,” Los Angeles Homeless Services Authority spokesman Tom Waldman said. An outreach team had not visited the ravine for at least a few months, and possibly as long as a year, he said.
After the Skirball fire swept through, investigators found evidence that people had been cooking and sleeping there, but did not find anyone to interview, Los Angeles Fire Department spokesman Peter Sanders said. The department has no suspects. The size of the encampment before the fire could not be determined because the area was so badly burned.
All that remained Tuesday was a scorched portable stove, a pot, a cheese grater, several fuel canisters and the remnants of a boombox. Burned pages of the children’s encyclopedia littered the charred brush and rocks in the canyon.
"Homelessness is a huge problem in our city," added Dash Stolarz, director of public affairs for the Mountains Recreation and Conservation Authority. The fire “is one more indication that this is a major issue that we need to put all our resources into to deal with."
Looking at the robot in the article I was thinking more along the lines of Daleks... "Homeless, exterminate!"Quote:
Originally Posted by KevDen2005
How long before someone steals the robot? Or maybe just pushes it over?
...or maybe just build a water hazard?
http://youtu.be/yndLMUcygh0
That thing is a neutered Dalek.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gman
I'm glad someone beat me to the ED209 picture. The SF on looks a bit like a Dr Who special effect. Or a plug.
The ED209 has a reputation for having a tough time with stairs. [Coffee]