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Then the word is out that Colorado is an easy place to get money.Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo
I don't give them anything, I observe them as I approach to see how aggressive they are.
I had to think, but I guess I have seen people get handed money when I'm sitting at a light. I've only seen it 2-3 times that I can think of, but I'm just one guy sitting through one light cycle. If they got handed something every three lights, that'd be more than I would have imagined. Homeless population has been going up around my house recently, and especially the panhandlers at the Home Depot; there are a few that I even recognize now. I don't like it any more than anyone else. It'd be nice if no one gave them money, but some people have a difficult time separating their emotions long enough to realize that a, probably significant, portion of people coherent enough to make signs and ask for money, are willfully in the position they are in and do not wish to change.
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"There are no finger prints under water."
In the Ranch, I have watched people hold up the exit ramps on a green light giving money. Us working stiffs just want to get home before our kids go to bed (sometimes I don't make it). I guess our time doesn't matter, what's a few more minutes sitting on a Colorado road?
I posted this in the Nextdoor thread back in August...
Read that one carefully. Linda confuses charity with funding a bum's habits and then pats herself on the back for raising her kids so well because they're just as dumb. But not before digressing into complete stupidity with the AntiFa support.
Meanwhile, the people who need legitimate charity are deprived of help so Linda can virtue signal.
Always eat the vegans first
Beat me too it. This is the real problem. I live in the fort but travel all over Denver metro and up to mid Wyoming for work and I can't think of anywhere that people don't hand out free money. Years ago the newspaper had an article about a many in fort Collins that panhandled before and after work at a major intersection. He made a pretty hefty bouns, in the 5 figure range.
They say the worst thing you can do is give money to a homeless person on the street, if you want to help give it a legitimate organization that works at getting them working on off the street not just funding a habit. I have no problem helping people who need help,everyone needs help at some point with something, but most homeless around here don't want help they want a hand out
That is 100% correct! Anyone who has tried to help quickly learns this. The vast majority of homelessness is choice and funding that lifestyle makes the choice sustainable. This is what makes the problem hard to solve.
We hear Libs talk about the massive amount of funding needed to "cure homeless" because they (by design) cast a wide net. Carve this problem down to those who really don't have a choice (mental health, disability) and the problem gets easier to solve.
There are organizations that are very good about drawing this line. Salvation Army, Denver Rescue Mission, local churches etc... Give to them. Even just the $20 that would have gone to a panhandler helps.
Always eat the vegans first
"I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I traveled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer. "
-Benjamin Franklin, On the Price of Corn and Management of the Poor, November 1766
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Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".
"Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.
-Friedrich Nietzsche
"Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people."
-Penn Jillette
A World Without Guns <- Great Read!
The thing I get tired of hearing people say is how unfair the housing market is in fort Collins. Yep it's freaking expensive to rent a place in fort Collins, lots of really high paying jobs, but guess what you don't have to live in this town either. Everyday I hear someone say how hard it is to live here on a low paying job, well move out of here.
Yup I get a monthly news letter from Denver Rescue Mission and even they say handouts are a temporary fix and for long term help refer the homeless to them and their programs.
Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to Fight, he'll just kill you.
Way too damn many.^^This.
I also categorize them.
Lowlife sum bag - 60%
Major addiction - 10%
Mental defective - 10%
Regular folk struggling - 10%
Assorted others - 10%
Anecdotal based on my personal observation over last 10yrs of traveling front range daily for work.
I absolutely despise these people standing at intersections or in places of public accommodation. That is not the location to get assistance/helping hand to get back on the path.
If you're unarmed, you are a victim
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