Is this a reference to the new governor's boyfriend?Quote:
Originally Posted by wctriumph
Is this a reference to the new governor's boyfriend?Quote:
Originally Posted by wctriumph
Going to be bad
https://theconservativetreehouse.com...s/#more-156461
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What We Can Expect With a Democrat-Marxist Controlled House of Representatives?.
Posted on November 8, 2018 by sundance
CTH has received multiple requests for a review of predictable consequences as a result of the midterm election. Thankfully, and perhaps unfortunately, we have solid references to base these predictions on ? because there?s a solid frame of reference from the 2006 midterm and the subsequent consequences we saw in 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010.
If we take the empirical 2006 example as the starting point and overlay the 2018 landscape to modernize the predictive model, what results is a most likely scenario.
First, any intellectually honest review must overlay the current political environment. In 2018 the scale of unchecked lawless behavior is a significant influence toward the differences we can expect from the last time Democrat/Marxists held congressional power. The term ?Democrat-socialism?, in essence a Marxist approach, is now the dominant fuel within the professional DNC political operations.
When the Democrats last held power in 2006, their actionable objective was toward a far-left, Saul Alinsky-type aggressive tone and influence; however, there was a need to couch that intention as they positioned Senator Barack Obama for the 2008 presidential election.
In 2006 the radicals, needed to downplay their radicalism. In 2018 the severity and aggression of the left, as assisted by the dropping of all media pretense, no longer needs to hide the intention. When Democrat-Marxists take control in January of 2019 they no longer need to couch the extremism, the American electorate have been prepped.
Secondly, it cannot be overstated how violent and confrontational the House of Representatives will be as soon as they are sworn in. They will work with an immediate purposeful intention. All political violence will be approved to attain their objectives. The recent behavior of Jim Acosta (CNN media), and ANTIFA toward Tucker Carlson, is now, and will be going forward, the new normal.
There will be extreme political violence.
In 2006 it was the SEIU and AFSCME union foot-soldiers who smashed windows, advanced upon polling places and engaged in the most severe examples of voter fraud and intimidation. In 2018, with the help of uber-Alinsky DNC Chairman Tom Perez, that corrupt sentiment is now institutionalized within democrat-socialist political apparatus. ANTIFA is now the DNC grassroots activist approach.
Failing to accept the severity of this shift in the past decade is intellectually dishonest. As Nancy Pelosi said of the Occupy Wall Street violent anarchists: ?God bless these people.? Indeed the OWS precursor to ANTIFA were laying the groundwork for the new severity of power in Democrat leadership. Nothing is out-of-bounds; no level of corrupt behavior will be avoided; everything will happen openly and without any backlash from a compliant media apparatus; the social fabric will be shredded.
The Democrat mantra: ?never let a crisis go to waste? is the modern version of the Fabian-Socialist: ?remould it closer to the heart?s desire?. Both approaches rely upon the destruction of acceptable norms in order to advance the political objective.
♦Specifics: When Democrats last took power in January 2007, Nancy Pelosi and Steny Hoyer took control in the final two years of George Bush second term. Immediately they set about a process laying the groundwork for the 2008 presidential election of Barack Obama. This was a priority objective.
One of the techniques was the removal of the budget process. By eliminating the federal budget process in 2007 (fiscal year ?08) the Democrats paved the way for the next democrat president to demand massive open-ended spending.
By the time the year of the general election came around (2008), the lengthy budget process was replaced with Omnibus spending bills (fiscal year 2009). Obviously when Obama was successfully installed in November of 2008, the useful crisis was financial. The subsequent TARP bailout, auto bailout, ARRA ($1 trillion stimulus) and QE1 were all accomplished with massive omnibus spending packages.
[NOTE: These are important references because from that moment forward, despite the GOP taking back control in January 2011, the constraining budgetary process was forever destroyed. There was never regular-order budgetary spending again.]
It is also critical to emphasize the difference between Democrats taking control in the last two years of Bush?s second term, and Democrats taking control in the last two years of Trump?s first term. Within this difference you will predictably see a shift in strategic operations from the Marxists.
George W Bush was exiting, and unlimited spending was used to empower the entry of Obama; however, now the Marxists need to knee-cap President Trump by weaponizing the power of the purse ? the biggest weapon of the House of Representatives.
After a ten year UniParty hiatus the Marxists will now go back to using budgets in the structural defunding and dismantling of ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement), the Southern Border Wall, and any program, initiative, policy or institution the Marxists want to see removed. This is a strategy of the Democrat crisis-makers; and they are exceptionally better at achieving their desired results than Republicans.
When it comes to political weaponization and political power constructs the Marxists have exceptional work ethics; they will outwork anyone on the other side who opposes them. They are far, far, better at political strategy and scheme than conservative politicians. Part of the reason for their success is that crooks, cons and swindlers are far more cunning than honorable, virtuous and moral people. It is unfortunate, but true; and the same truth applies beyond politics.
♦ Two other thoughts on this issue. First, you might remember when this massive spending, and the government takeover of healthcare, led to the Marxists losing the 2010 midterm election in a massive defeat. But do you remember what the democrats did in the lame-duck congress between November 2010 and January 2011?
Does the term ?Porkulous? ring a bell?
While 63 democrat seats were lost in the November 2010 election (and six democrat senate seats), those exiting Marxists, despite just having suffered the worst defeat in almost 100 years, audaciously ?and apologetically? voted in the December 2010 lame-duck session, to fully fund President Obama?s next two years in office. This was done by Speaker Nancy Pelosi specifically to block the incoming GOP wave from upending the priorities of the Obama administration in 2011. That was called the ?Porkulous? spending bill; and the democrat-marxists didn?t give a snit about how it looked.
Now, do you think Speaker Paul Ryan will do anything as bold to fund and secure the budgetary priorities of President Donald Trump in this lame-duck?
Secondly, about the overall unilateral commitment and cunning historically displayed by the Marxists. They are so committed to the long-term view they are willing to sacrifice anything for the biggest, most consequential, advances toward their objectives. In 2010 the democrats killed their own ?blue-dog? coalition to advance their ideological goals.
Within the 63 House seats the Marxists lost in that 2010 midterm election; they killed off the entire 40 member Bart Stupak coalition; the blue-dog caucus. Totally willing to sacrifice 40 seats to attain a generational ideological objective (ObamaCare); and they are about to step back into power a mere eight years later. Stunning when you think about it.
In my opinion few reading this have any idea just how bad these next two years are going to be. It?s not your fault. We are the normal people who don?t spend every moment of our day scheming, conniving, and developing plans to dismantle the lives of your freedom loving community and rebuild it as a collective society. For these Marxists who are about to take power that?s all they do. Every moment of their existence they spend thinking about how to gain power and dominate, 24/7/365 that?s all they do.
Lastly, future predictions: Michael Bloomberg will be the Democrat/Marxist nominee for 2020. There will be a field of candidates; but the professional Democrat machine will run the splitter strategy, and the back-room crowd who really control the elements of power have already pre-selected their nominee, Michael Bloomberg. Marxists always have the plan mapped out well in advance. (A woman will be the VP nominee)
If you start now looking at what actions the Marxists are taking, through the prism of their goal being President Michael Bloomberg, lots of things will make a lot more sense.
I am hereby stating I will not be protesting in Denver.Quote:
Originally Posted by 68Charger
Any shouting of "F*** the Polis!" will be coming from the governor's mansion, not me.
Saturday night at the govnah's mansion:Quote:
Originally Posted by CobaltSkink
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQPmxDB04Ps
Our best chance is a few more replacement people on the Supreme Court. Then challenge everything and appeal to the Supreme Court and get it blocked from being enforced.
Red flag bill...
https://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...-flag-gun-bill
How would the state enforce a new magazine ban when they can't enforce the one they have now?
Eliminate grandfather clause, then prosecute otherwise law abiding citizens for owning a plastic box with a spring in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by roberth
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by 68Charger
Tell anyone inquiring those plastic containers are for your weed stash. Making people believe you're a gun owner will keep them from trying to rip off your stash.Quote:
Originally Posted by 68Charger
Or require people to "declare" their magazines and carry around paperwork. That's what Connecticut did.Quote:
Originally Posted by 68Charger
But how are they going to catch people with the wrong box?Quote:
Originally Posted by 68Charger
Are they going to fly drones over the national forest and look for people? Are they going park themselves at Centennial Gun Club (an example) and check the magazines of the people who go there to shoot?
So CT shifted the burden of proof to the gun owner?Quote:
Originally Posted by Will1776
In any event nothing good will come from Democrats controlling the legislature and governor's office.
If I could get my wife to move, we would. Where not sure. She is too tied in to ladies club, friends and church to change.
The discussions above are horrible prospects. I am sure the Dems have already thought of everything above already or I would say we should stop giving them ideas.
I guess so. Basically if you had 10+ mags you had to "declare" them and the state gave a you some sort of paperwork to show police in the event of a home defense situation or at the range, etc. I was too young to even buy a gun at the time, but I have heard about the process from others.Quote:
Originally Posted by roberth
That's what they'll do, make them contraband- illegal to possess unless you have an affirmative defense (LEO, etc)Quote:
Originally Posted by roberth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKOc6hXMDhcQuote:
Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo
1984 is getting closer and closer.
If you look at all of what is going on both in Washington and in terms of gun control and violence in the streets you need to ask yourself why?????
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GbHDxCCDT8
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Originally Posted by ProGunFred
There not even going to go hunting for scofflaws, but with the Red Flag law a lot of non-dangerous gun owners are about to have their guns seized and at that point they'll be charged for all the mags (so even after the red-flag period, they'll be felons so they can't get their guns back). Also we've all heard the stories of ATF agents showing up at gun ranges and hassling people over their NFA items (demanding to see stamps and such) ... well the State Patrol will be tasked with that here.Quote:
Originally Posted by roberth
Any sort of grandfathering that requires you to get a permit from the state will eventually be turned into a confiscation scheme.
On a side note:
When we do get some kind of draconian gun laws, I'd like to see the owners of this site delete all the posts and start over fresh so as to not give the State a place to search and find what many of us have said in the past.
Where's the like button?
Oh and it's not "grandfathering" if it's registration.
But to foxtrot's point, this is what gun confiscation looks like in the 21st century.
Good thing rocks are lethal weapons, right?
Your mind can be a lethal weapon.Quote:
Originally Posted by 68Charger
Your mind is the weapon. Everything else is merely an accessory.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gman
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That was my point, thank you.Quote:
Originally Posted by crays
I was also hinting that if the plan was to eliminate weaponry, they'll probably have to remove those of us with a similar mindset.
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I really think that gutting TABOR is first on their list
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Originally Posted by XJ
I would agree. TABOR stops almost all of their plans. If there is no tax money, they have to juggle money from one cause to fund another. And with so many promises of free everything, they need to come up with the money to make every free.
But that asks the question, if it is free, why do they need more money?
My plans?
Shall not comply
"Rep. Jared Polis, D-Boulder, says he thinks banning weapons possessed by law-abiding people violates the Second Amendment.
“I believe it would make it harder for Colorado families to defend themselves and also interfere with the recreational use of guns by law-abiding Coloradans,” Polis said. “If we want to reduce violence, we should invest in improving our schools to ensure that young people have jobs and do not turn to gangs, crime or violence of any form, and improving access to mental health services.”"
https://www.denverpost.com/2013/01/2...t-weapons-ban/
There might be some hope. Yes, an older article, but important info. I don't doubt that if he feels it won't affect his reelection much he would sign any ban.
Anything coming out of a politicians mouth is B.S., particularly if they're trying to get elected.
I think the Dems will be emboldened by the new demographics of the state and they'll be full throttle on pushing their agendas.
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POLIS:
Strengthen penalties for black-market gun salesBlack-market gun sales are enabling violent criminals and gangs to purchase firearms without background checks. The root of this issue is gun theft. In 2015 and 2016 alone, smash-and-grab gun store robberies resulted in nearly 400 guns being stolen in Colorado. We should work to equip gun shops with strong security measures like closed-circuit cameras, discrete signage, and reinforced windows, which are already required of marijuana dispensaries in Colorado. We can also look to the example of Richmond, Va., who have strengthened penalties for illegal gun sales--and seen armed robberies and gun homicides drop substantially as a result.
I've encountered few issues as polarizing as our nation's deadly gun violence epidemic. It shouldn't be this way. Like most Coloradans, I support our Second Amendment right to use guns for defense and sport. And like most Coloradans, I think we should take action to reduce gun violence and help save lives. Nothing about these views is incompatible.
Source:?2018 Colorado Gubernatorial website PolisForColorado.com?, Jul 4, 2018
Ban military-style weapons; plus CDC studies gun violence[In the wake of the deadly Parkland school shooting]: "This is a case where the public interest in safety needs to win out over special interest politics," he said.
Polis said common-sense measures are needed including the banning of military-style weapons, not allowing access to guns to those who have temporary restraining orders and allow for the Centers for Disease Control and others to conduct gun violence research. He added that saying there's no easy solution is not an excuse for inaction.
Source: The Coloradoan on 2018 Colorado gubernatorial debate , Mar 3, 2018
Supports gun-control legislationQ: Do you generally support gun-control legislation?
A: Yes.
Source: Colorado Vote Smart 2016 Political Courage Test , Nov 1, 2016
Banning weapons violates the Second AmendmentRep. Jared Polis says he thinks banning weapons possessed by law-abiding people violates the Second Amendment: "I believe it would make it harder for Colorado families to defend themselves and also interfere with the recreational use of guns by law- abiding Coloradans," Polis said. "If we want to reduce violence, we should invest in improving our schools to ensure that young people have jobs and do not turn to gangs, crime or violence of any form, and improving access to mental health services."Source: Denver Post on 2018 Colorado gubernatorial race , Jan 24, 2013
So, Polis is a mealy mouthed, two faced, lying sonofabitch politician? This is my surprised face... [Roll1]
Politicians will say whatever they think potential voters want to hear. His prior actions speak louder than all the bullshit pouring out of that ugly hole under his nose. The communists can pass all of the laws they want, without our consent or approval. Enforcement and compliance are a whole other animal.
This is from a post on that other AR15 site.
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Call your reps....I called mine and he actually called me back.
I spoke with Senator Don Coram today . The general feeling is they may push for Red Flag again. Bans? Possible but according to Mr Coram highly unlikely and according to what he said will get a lot and I mean a lot of push back.
He said they still remember the recalls quite vividly. Someone he speaks to on the other side is a marine vet who just was elected to the Pueblo seat.....They remember 2013 trust me. I am not saying a ban wouldn't happen but its very unlikely as its toxic politically to even discuss such things. They went with a mag ban over an assault weapons ban because of the potential backlash.
He did say some sort of gun control is likely but a ban? Odds are against it. Red flag though in some way, shape or form? Count on it.
I will say that he did mention the GOP will fight if anything nasty comes down the pike and unlike a lot of politicians who say well I support the 2nd. Don bought his first AR 3 weeks ago.
Bottom line Red Flag is the low hanging fruit. Bans are so high up on the tree they would really want to pull it down to get to it.
I concluded the call with him saying "You have my number so call me any time you have concerns on anything happening at the capital."
Red flag needs to be ruled against sooner than later.
It's going to take one hell of a case to do that since simply depriving an American of a civil right that SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED apparently isn't enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric P
We're going to need a plaintiff who was harmed after being disarmed, lived through it, and has $200K+ in his pocket.
Again, I'm ready to donate to any serious challenge on these state level infringements we think can go all the way.
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Originally Posted by Will1776
[hahhah-no]
The 'dems are much better at playing the long game than the 'pubs:
Shannon Watts going up against Cory Gardner in 2020. We've all been wondering why she moved here? Her sugar daddy thought he'd own Colorado first. He was right.
I'd put money on it. Bloomberg will pour dizzying amounts of money into the race; his previous donations will pale by comparison, if necessary.
O2
Ps. For the record this is not my observation, but I agree with it:
https://gunfreezone.net/what-the-dem...eir-new-power/
That is why I was hesitant to put in river rock at my house, in case the Palestinians attack. [Sarcasm2]Quote:
Originally Posted by 68Charger
Yes they talk like this now, but once they get into session and start feeling their newly increased power they'll get drunk with it and I expect some sort of CA/NY style nastiness by middle of next year. Red Flag is the least of our problems.Quote:
Call your reps....I called mine and he actually called me back.
I spoke with Senator Don Coram today . The general feeling is they may push for Red Flag again. Bans? Possible but according to Mr Coram highly unlikely and according to what he said will get a lot and I mean a lot of push back.
He said they still remember the recalls quite vividly. Someone he speaks to on the other side is a marine vet who just was elected to the Pueblo seat.....They remember 2013 trust me. I am not saying a ban wouldn't happen but its very unlikely as its toxic politically to even discuss such things. They went with a mag ban over an assault weapons ban because of the potential backlash.
He did say some sort of gun control is likely but a ban? Odds are against it. Red flag though in some way, shape or form? Count on it.
I will say that he did mention the GOP will fight if anything nasty comes down the pike and unlike a lot of politicians who say well I support the 2nd. Don bought his first AR 3 weeks ago.
Bottom line Red Flag is the low hanging fruit. Bans are so high up on the tree they would really want to pull it down to get to it.
I concluded the call with him saying "You have my number so call me any time you have concerns on anything happening at the capital."