So what, specifically, do our new overlords have planned for us?

[Will1776]

Eliminate grandfather clause, then prosecute otherwise law abiding citizens for owning a plastic box with a spring in it.

Or require people to "declare" their magazines and carry around paperwork. That's what Connecticut did.

[roberth]

Eliminate grandfather clause, then prosecute otherwise law abiding citizens for owning a plastic box with a spring in it.

But how are they going to catch people with the wrong box?

Are they going to fly drones over the national forest and look for people? Are they going park themselves at Centennial Gun Club (an example) and check the magazines of the people who go there to shoot?

[roberth]

Or require people to "declare" their magazines and carry around paperwork. That's what Connecticut did.

So CT shifted the burden of proof to the gun owner?

[10x]

In any event nothing good will come from Democrats controlling the legislature and governor's office.
If I could get my wife to move, we would. Where not sure. She is too tied in to ladies club, friends and church to change.
The discussions above are horrible prospects. I am sure the Dems have already thought of everything above already or I would say we should stop giving them ideas.

[Will1776]

So CT shifted the burden of proof to the gun owner?

I guess so. Basically if you had 10+ mags you had to "declare" them and the state gave a you some sort of paperwork to show police in the event of a home defense situation or at the range, etc. I was too young to even buy a gun at the time, but I have heard about the process from others.

[68Charger]

So CT shifted the burden of proof to the gun owner?

That's what they'll do, make them contraband- illegal to possess unless you have an affirmative defense (LEO, etc)

[Justin]

Tell anyone inquiring those plastic containers are for your weed stash. Making people believe you're a gun owner will keep them from trying to rip off your stash.

[DavieD55]

1984 is getting closer and closer.
If you look at all of what is going on both in Washington and in terms of gun control and violence in the streets you need to ask yourself why?????

[DavieD55]

Gun Confiscation IS happening. Read that sentence again and listen carefully to your internal dialog. What's going through you mind? Can't happen here? Can't happen to me? Well, it's just a few "crazy" people. I dont live in that state. I support the police? I support Trump? This line of thought is dangerous to the point of terminal naivete. Any thinking man already knows that these self-made excuses are foolish. More than 150 people have already been Red Flagged in Florida alone. [UPDATE: in Florida as of July 27th, 467 risk protection cases were filed.]

The Christians and the Jews didn't believe it could happen to them to the point where they got onto the rail cars under their own strength. The interviews with survivors are astonishing. They still couldn't believe what was right in front of them even as their neighbors got hauled off by the SS.

Dont care about the Jews? Thats fine because Honey, this time its about YOU.

Back in America; first they're coming for the "crazy" gun owner. Then they'll come for...who? Who's next, the Gab Nazis? Then who? Then who after that?

Here is the back and forth that took place on live TV after the Parkland, Florida shooting: "Allow due process so no ones rights are trampled, but the ability to go to court, obtain an order and then collect not only the firearms but any weapons", Mike Pence, said. "Or, Mike, take the firearms first, and then go to court," President Trump responded. And later; Take the guns first, go through due process second, -President Trump.

That conversation happened with Democrat leadership in the room. It kicked off a furious round of legislative action across the nation to accomplish the passage of "Red Flag" laws. There is broad bi-partisan support for these laws. At least 16 states have legislatively taken steps toward legalizing Gun Confiscation without evidence of a crime. The NRA has not objected to this, at all, and has been supportive of it, why?
Check your internal dialog again.

This isnt about blame, this is about getting you to realize that it IS HAPPENING, right here in America. In Maryland and in California and the rest of the Left Coast we shouldnt be surprised I suppose, but you should be alarmed, very alarmed. But thats not all, its happening in Indiana, a Red State. Many more states have these laws or are working on them with several quietly passing similar legislation but are not acting upon them yet.

The Right has initiated this idea, and the NRA doesnt object, and the Left starts to implement it. There is no third party. And the police enforce it, by summary execution if you dont comply? The courts have fully approved this post Patriot Act methodology. To where do you turn for relief?
Maybe Christians are crazy with their sky God? Maybe conspiracy theorists are a danger? Maybe you are the problem, maybe youre the terrorist? Whites are dangerous? Why the push to get medical and physiological doctors involved in evaluating gun owners? Does any of this register on your internal dialog BS meter because thats where this is headed.

These laws rely upon neighbor turning against neighbor. The division thats been sewn over decades is now starting feed on itself. This is not an accident. Its not happening in a vacuum. Those that run the power structure are not dumb. This is what the Soviets and the Nazis did and now its what the Americans are doing.

Police come to a mans home, kill him, and take his guns. How is this different from Stalin? How? By Gods Law, Trump, all the way down to the local cop has this blood on their hands. Is this what Western Civilization is, now again in the twenty first century?
Gun confiscation IS happening. Where were you when the gun confiscations started?

- ProGunFred

[Zundfolge]

But how are they going to catch people with the wrong box?

There not even going to go hunting for scofflaws, but with the Red Flag law a lot of non-dangerous gun owners are about to have their guns seized and at that point they'll be charged for all the mags (so even after the red-flag period, they'll be felons so they can't get their guns back). Also we've all heard the stories of ATF agents showing up at gun ranges and hassling people over their NFA items (demanding to see stamps and such) ... well the State Patrol will be tasked with that here.

Any sort of grandfathering that requires you to get a permit from the state will eventually be turned into a confiscation scheme.


On a side note:
When we do get some kind of draconian gun laws, I'd like to see the owners of this site delete all the posts and start over fresh so as to not give the State a place to search and find what many of us have said in the past.