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You don't want to defend Obama or trash Bush, yet that is exactly what you are doing. If you want to talk about the economy, I'd love to hear that...but I'm not familiar with the econemy of which you speak. And you're making references to someone else being stupid?Quote:
Originally Posted by WellHungSmurf
Hide and watch. In a couple of weeks this new cert will be found to be a fake.
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Originally Posted by roberth
reminds me of dan rather.
wanted to go down in history as a reporter that took down the president, be mentioned in the same breath as woodward and bernstein.
instead got to enjoy a timely retirement because his paper was bogus.
Well for sure he ain't a Smurf. LOL
It should be noted, for the sake of facts, that the certificate released initially, issued by the state of Hawaii, is sufficient legal proof of residence. With that you can get a passport, join the army, get a drivers license, be President.
The reason people didn't believe it was because HI had changed the way it handles these records, and they wanted to see a document issued in the 60's at the time of birth.
That was released now, but just like the Moon landing, won't convince the die hards, be they conspiracy theorists, die hard racists, or just a little light in the loafers. At this point, that contingent should be reduced enough that it's no longer a plank in any GOP candidates platform. Hopefully.
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Actually that's the root of the original argument. A "Certificate of live birth" like the one originally released is NOT enough to get a passport or joint the army or get a drivers license (ostensibly that also meant not good enough to be President).Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoosier
I didn't realize that the gays were birthers. [ROFL1]Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoosier
It never was a plank in the platform of any serious GOP candidate (no Trump ain't serious)Quote:
At this point, that contingent should be reduced enough that it's no longer a plank in any GOP candidates platform. Hopefully.
Ok he was born here. Argument over. He is still F*cking up the country. Can we get to fixing that now mister Obumer. Stop talking about the little stuff and fix the situation before we wind up lower on the totem pole than Bangledesh
And now he can move on to the important stuff like
CAMPAIGNING
He seems to do real well at that. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mtn.man
I'm not a birther, but the file at whitehouse.gov is NOT a scan of an original document.
I opened it up in Adobe Illustrator and its obviously pieced together.
Something real fishy here.
I separated the objects into three major pieces, on the left is the background, on the right is the bulk of the text and in the middle is the little pieces of text that were separate from the others.
see attachment
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Its true everyone, here, has a right to an opinion, but who keeps letting the smurfs in ?!?! WTF.. really?
Ya think Smurfette is Uh RICH?
OH who's yer Papa...
I think we should point out ever flaw in the man. Everything. He started a war half-assed and late and all the way to how many times he plays golf. It's fair game.
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Originally Posted by TriggerHappy
Im not just a "normal" smurf. I'm a wellhungsmurf. Biiiiig difference. Don't be jealous[Coffee]
since smurfs are little tiny blue people what exactly are you bragging about?Quote:
Originally Posted by WellHungSmurf
wouldn't a well hung smurf still have a teeny tiny pee pee.
just saying it would like being a well hung rodent.
[LOL]
It must really suck to not able to relieve your blue balls.Quote:
Originally Posted by WellHungSmurf
i am sure we will have people take this copy apart piece by piece. if it is truly a fake that will finally be the end of his presidency.
i don't know if i ever believed that he was not born in HI, i still think he is just a dumbass for letting it go on so long,
let's face it he finally caved due to pressure from Trump, he had to cave, he loses political face because he could not release it on his terms, If it turns out to be true copy of the actual document then trump has lost a little cred cause he rolled the dice on this being a real issue.
whether he has a real document or not obama has made a total dick of himself by not telling the truth about everything from his education to his birth cert.
all this BS from what is supposed to be the most transparent administration we have ever had.
I am surprised that Air Force One can even take off with the load of bullshit it has to haul around. I might have to make that part of my signature
Honestly, they probably just touched it up so it could be read. However, given the situation, still a huge gaff.
Not sure if you guys have seen this yet.
Very interesting.... real or not. Why wait 2 1/2 years after spending 2 million to keep it hidden to all of a sudden release it? Fucking stupid or genius?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQAqv...ature=youtu.be
I have the same thought. I highly doubt the POTUS would release his own fake birth certificate. Especially one that's easily detected. This is not a hard copy either btw, its a digital copy that is available through the State of Hawaii. .Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
If anything, I think Obama just did us a favor by turning our focus on how a big fuck up he is on economy, military, health care, immigration and so on.
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Originally Posted by foxtrot
That's right in line with the video I linked
Which is also right in line with the file I attached ... whatamichoppedliver? :D
one explanation being given is that the scanner that scanned the document had OCR turned on ... my only problem with that is the different color of some of the text and the fact that when I've accidentally OCR scanned stuff it makes a LOT more little boxes than that ... and generally doesn't separate the text from a textured background.
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Originally Posted by foxtrot
-- you lose. A medium resolution digital copy is not sufficient to draw any sustainable conclusion. Take your own birth certificate (or other document with a medium background such as a check) and reproduce it and then enlarge it in the same way and you will find similar distortions.
***admin removed picture. Do your research next time.
I just scanned the title from my 1980 motorcycle. No matter how much I zoomed in, no MS Paint showed up on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by gcrookston
Then you are doing it wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
Really people? Do you think for one minute that with all the assets at the administration's disposal they'd produce some half-assed document? It would be perfect..... too perfect....
I didn't vote for the guy. I don't particularly like him nor do I trust him and I am not in agreement with much of anything he has done. But I will allow that he is a very intelligent individual surrounded by even more intelligent people.
What you are all doing is just a repeat of 2008 (if you don't recall, see here: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...n_the_usa.html).
The only tail that donkey Trump had of substance was to relight this issue and now that's been pinned back on his ass.
All I'm saying is that it has obviously been touched up. You can't possibly look at that link and not see that. I'm not even sure what you are disputing here.
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Originally Posted by gcrookston
Why not... it produced a half ass president [Coffee]
That was my initial thought as well ... but there the document is and as another professional graphic designer with almost two decades of experience (including years and years of pre-press experience in the commercial printing industry where I troubleshot people's files 40+ hours a week) this file has clearly been altered.Quote:
Originally Posted by gcrookston
That doesn't prove that he wasn't born in Hawaii or anything else, it only shows that they provided an altered image and claim it to be a scan of a single image.
Honestly I wouldn't be surprised to see them put out an obviously altered image just to muddy the water and get us to talk about something other than Obama's record ... or the Fed holding the first press conference in history ... or the fact that the EPA has basically shut down any chance of domestic oil production anytime soon ... or one of a dozen other real problems.
Also, FactCheck.org is about as unbiased as WorldNetDaily (only in the other direction)
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Honestly I wouldn't be surprised to see them put out an obviously altered image just to muddy the water and get us to talk about something other than Obama's record ... or the Fed holding the first press conference in history ... or the fact that the EPA has basically shut down any chance of domestic oil production anytime soon ... or one of a dozen other real problems.
I find this more plausible than anything else my tin foil hatted friends have put forth today, or over the last 3 years for that matter.
I'm Bored with this...
Lets have some real controversy...
Someone start another half-nekkid ladies with guns thread!
[ROFL1]
I think we tried that and determined the half most wanted to see nekkid isn't the half of a half neekid woman that the admin will allow. [Flower]Quote:
Originally Posted by Byte Stryke
This thread makes me think:
H.Quote:
I'VE SEEN A LOT OF 'SHOPS IN MY DAY, I CAN TELL BY THE PIXELS
Shoop da woop.
And at the end, he'll release the hard copy that's the exact same anyway to discredit his opponents as tinfoil birthers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zundfolge