$69,300 put into your bank account

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Originally Posted by stevelkinevil

That last post of mine was too much, I have nothing against tmleadr03 personally, I normally don't get sucked into these keyboard commando type back and forths and shall refrain from further comment. We disagree on this one, it happens, we shouldnt personally attack eachother, I apologize for my part.

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Awe.... I was looking forward to round three.... :(

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Originally Posted by stevelkinevil

That last post of mine was too much, I have nothing against tmleadr03 personally, I normally don't get sucked into these keyboard commando type back and forths and shall refrain from further comment. We disagree on this one, it happens, we shouldnt personally attack eachother, I apologize for my part.

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It happens.

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Originally Posted by tmleadr03

Wow, you guys are unbelievable. The guy admits to knowing it was not his money and he spent it anyways. Does no one have any personal integrity anymore?

This thread is looking to be a good one to book mark so I know whom NOT to do business with.

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Yeah...this. Not to mention invoking the honor and integrity of our Founders to justify fraud. Pretty pathetic.

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Originally Posted by JM Ver. 2.0

If it happened with my checking account... I'd sit on it for a month and collect my 10% interest... Then give it back... :D

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PM me the name of your bank! I wanna open an interest-bearing checking account there.

ETA: Just read the other responses...late to the party, as usual.

tmldr- Please refrain from snapping your whipper online-Thank You [ROFL1]

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Originally Posted by StagLefty

tmldr- Please refrain from snapping your whipper online-Thank You [ROFL1]

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Typically when I snap my whipper I am using the internet...

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Originally Posted by Bailey Guns

Yeah...this. Not to mention invoking the honor and integrity of our Founders to justify fraud. Pretty pathetic.

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Yeah thats exactly what I was doing, the dems should hire you to twist and spin for em. Got any digs at me supporting Ron Paul to throw in while your at it? Troll.

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Originally Posted by [COLOR="Red"

stevelkinevil[/COLOR];477962]Yeah thats exactly what I was doing, the dems should hire you to twist and spin for em. Got any digs at me supporting Ron Paul to throw in while your at it? Troll.

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Indeed.

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Originally Posted by stevelkinevil

Yeah thats exactly what I was doing, the dems should hire you to twist and spin for em. Got any digs at me supporting Ron Paul to throw in while your at it? Troll.

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You don't need my help to make a fool of yourself.

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Originally Posted by tmleadr03

Look here old man, you obviously have no clue what you are talking. Go take your gerital and take a nap. Come back when you can apply the same standards to everyone.

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in before the close

likewise, in before the close

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Originally Posted by patrick0685

in before the close

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I was in before it was cool....

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Originally Posted by patrick0685

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http://t.qkme.me/3pgq2g.jpg

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Originally Posted by tmleadr03

http://t.qkme.me/3pgq2g.jpg

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Thats a guy? Wow he must work out.

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Originally Posted by lpgasman

Thats a guy? Wow he must work out.

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I honestly can not tell what that is. I mean, I know its a girl... But damn.

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Originally Posted by JM Ver. 2.0

I honestly can not tell what that is. I mean, I know its a girl... But damn.

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Now let me ruin your night. It is a girl, and imagine her armpits.

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Originally Posted by JM Ver. 2.0

I was in before it was cool....

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true...but i have been at work so sadly the conversation had already blown up when i got here

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Originally Posted by tmleadr03

Now let me ruin your night. It is a girl, and imagine her armpits.

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I just thru-up in my mouth.

my boss once had 1,000,000 put into his account on accident, he never even knew until the teller called him told him to look at his deposit receipt asked him what it was like to be a millionaire then said they were fixing it.

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Originally Posted by tmleadr03

What? It wasn't his money and he spent it.

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If you get a product in the mail that you never ordered you get to keep it, why not $$ in your bank account?

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Originally Posted by theGinsue

If you get a product in the mail that you never ordered you get to keep it, why not $$ in your bank account?

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If FedEx delivers your next order (whatever very nice firearm or firearm accessory that might be) to the house down the street, would you like them to fix the mistake or have you eat the loss?

If your neighbor down the street receives something of value (we are not talking about samples and junk mail), should that neighbor do the right thing and return to sender, or enjoy their unforeseen bounty at some else's expense?

In this case, the bank was most likely acting in a delivery capacity for a wire transfer. They delivered the cash to the wrong recipient. When the bank went to the address (account holder) where they mistakenly delivered the cash to rectify their mistake, the account holder had misappropriated something of value that did not belong to him.

There would be both civil and criminal methods to collect the missing money, and like anyone who has been through the justice system can tell you, as slow as the criminal courts are, they are blazingly fast compared to a civil court process.

What this guy is charged with will have little resemblance to what he is eventually sentenced to in my opinion. He will likely be allowed to plead to a much lesser crime with a restitution agreement enforceable by the court. His earnings (as meager as they may be) will likely be garnished until he wins the lottery.

Honor is important to some people and a few corporations (but not many).

Someone once asked me to define the term - theft. Every jurisdiction has a similar way of defining the elements of theft, but I like to define it this way: "When you take something that doesn't belong to you, that is stealing. If you didn't bring it, you don't take it. If you find it, you should try to return it to it's rightful owner." Your opinion about the rightful owner is really not relevant, again IMO.

I realize there are situations where you can't return everything you find, but that doesn't relieve the finder from what I believe is a moral obligation to try.

Everyone over the age of 12 gets to make their own decisions on what they believe is right.

Be safe.

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Originally Posted by cstone

If FedEx delivers your next order (whatever very nice firearm or firearm accessory that might be) to the house down the street, would you like them to fix the mistake or have you eat the loss?

If your neighbor down the street receives something of value (we are not talking about samples and junk mail), should that neighbor do the right thing and return to sender, or enjoy their unforeseen bounty at some else's expense?

In this case, the bank was most likely acting in a delivery capacity for a wire transfer. They delivered the cash to the wrong recipient. When the bank went to the address (account holder) where they mistakenly delivered the cash to rectify their mistake, the account holder had misappropriated something of value that did not belong to him.

There would be both civil and criminal methods to collect the missing money, and like anyone who has been through the justice system can tell you, as slow as the criminal courts are, they are blazingly fast compared to a civil court process.

What this guy is charged with will have little resemblance to what he is eventually sentenced to in my opinion. He will likely be allowed to plead to a much lesser crime with a restitution agreement enforceable by the court. His earnings (as meager as they may be) will likely be garnished until he wins the lottery.

Honor is important to some people and a few corporations (but not many).

Someone once asked me to define the term - theft. Every jurisdiction has a similar way of defining the elements of theft, but I like to define it this way: "When you take something that doesn't belong to you, that is stealing. If you didn't bring it, you don't take it. If you find it, you should try to return it to it's rightful owner." Your opinion about the rightful owner is really not relevant, again IMO.

I realize there are situations where you can't return everything you find, but that doesn't relieve the finder from what I believe is a moral obligation to try.

Everyone over the age of 12 gets to make their own decisions on what they believe is right.

Be safe.

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http://thesecularity.com/download/file.php?id=7457

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Originally Posted by cstone

If FedEx delivers your next order (whatever very nice firearm or firearm accessory that might be) to the house down the street, would you like them to fix the mistake or have you eat the loss?

If your neighbor down the street receives something of value (we are not talking about samples and junk mail), should that neighbor do the right thing and return to sender, or enjoy their unforeseen bounty at some else's expense?

In this case, the bank was most likely acting in a delivery capacity for a wire transfer. They delivered the cash to the wrong recipient. When the bank went to the address (account holder) where they mistakenly delivered the cash to rectify their mistake, the account holder had misappropriated something of value that did not belong to him.

There would be both civil and criminal methods to collect the missing money, and like anyone who has been through the justice system can tell you, as slow as the criminal courts are, they are blazingly fast compared to a civil court process.

What this guy is charged with will have little resemblance to what he is eventually sentenced to in my opinion. He will likely be allowed to plead to a much lesser crime with a restitution agreement enforceable by the court. His earnings (as meager as they may be) will likely be garnished until he wins the lottery.

Honor is important to some people and a few corporations (but not many).

Someone once asked me to define the term - theft. Every jurisdiction has a similar way of defining the elements of theft, but I like to define it this way: "When you take something that doesn't belong to you, that is stealing. If you didn't bring it, you don't take it. If you find it, you should try to return it to it's rightful owner." Your opinion about the rightful owner is really not relevant, again IMO.

I realize there are situations where you can't return everything you find, but that doesn't relieve the finder from what I believe is a moral obligation to try.

Everyone over the age of 12 gets to make their own decisions on what they believe is right.

Be safe.

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I agree as well, contrary to the way a couple of folks are trying to paint my feelings on this, for the 3rd time or more I agree what he did was wrong, My point is that banks yelling "thief" is the pot calling the kettle black.

He should had invested it in a Wells Fargo Mutual fund, and just collected the interest!

If my bank posted $69,300 in my account I say *my account* I would probably notify them immediately per the discrepancy. However, it is my account right? I didn't steal anything right? What is in my bank account is mine right? Dont put $69,300 into the wrong account.

Ultimately, I believe the bank should be more accountable for those types of high dollar transactions.

My credit union screwed up and 'mis-deposited' like and additional $85 dollars in my account and you'd thought the DHLS was coming to get me. I didn't even know about it and I had 3 phone calls, emails, and a letter detailing why my account was being dinged.

I think cstone hit it out of the park. The kid knowingly took the money. That is theft in any state. Not a fan of banks, but they are a business and they too are bound by laws. They break them and get caught, they get punished. The real question here is why a used Pontiac? [LOL]

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Originally Posted by patrick0685

my boss once had 1,000,000 put into his account on accident, he never even knew until the teller called him told him to look at his deposit receipt asked him what it was like to be a millionaire then said they were fixing it.

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Fleeting wealth there..............

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Originally Posted by copfish

I think cstone hit it out of the park. The kid knowingly took the money. That is theft in any state. Not a fan of banks, but they are a business and they too are bound by laws. They break them and get caught, they get punished. The real question here is why a used Pontiac? [LOL]

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I disagree, you may as well charge the guy with money laundering or extortion.
This is in no way a crime. It is the banks fault.

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Originally Posted by tmleadr03

Once again you are having trouble applying the same standards. Not only to the bank, but to yourself. You came into this thread saying "screw wells fargo". The money was a typo. And the guy stole it when he spent it. Stealing is a crime, perhaps you are not aware of something called the rule of law? Here is a link for you for Colorado: http://www.lawinfoboulder.com/areas_...ion/theft.html Over a certain amount it is a felony. What he did is a felony. I am sorry these concepts are difficult for you pops. Perhaps you should retire now that you have lived such a wide and varied life and leave the thinking to us young whipper snappers.

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I am Sorry but, linking anything with "Boulder" in the name immediately invalidates your argument, any past, present or future points and all of your personal credibility.

No points awarded and may god have mercy on your soul.

:D

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Originally Posted by Byte Stryke

I am Sorry but, linking anything with "Boulder" in the name immediately invalidates your argument, any past, present or future points and all of your personal credibility.

No points awarded and may god have mercy on your soul.

:D

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Bah! The point is valid no matter the source for the local law.

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Originally Posted by DavieD55

I disagree, you may as well charge the guy with money laundering or extortion.
This is in no way a crime. It is the banks fault.

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He took the money from his account, knowing that it was not his and spent it. Yeah the bank screwed up, but the kid knew he was not entitled to the money. Wrong is wrong.

What did I create here? I don't check my thread and looks what happens.... :)

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Originally Posted by SouthPaw

What did I create here? I don't check my thread and looks what happens.... :)

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apparently you've flushed out the socialists and moral relativists. What were you thinking!

So... When I screw up (I've put money in the wrong account before), I don't get it back, and they say sorry, but if they do it... I get charged with a crime? I thought posession was 9/10ths of the law/? I remember the days when if King Soopers messed up on your items, you got them free...

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Originally Posted by DavieD55

I disagree, you may as well charge the guy with money laundering or extortion.
This is in no way a crime. It is the banks fault.

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Why is this so difficult for you? Having the money being mistakenly deposited into his account is not a crime. Him spending the money is. It is the difference between trying on a ring, and walking out of the store with it on your finger.

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Originally Posted by Irving

Why is this so difficult for you? Having the money being mistakenly deposited into his account is not a crime. Him spending the money is. It is the difference between trying on a ring, and walking out of the store with it on your finger.

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Dirty diamond sellers, how dare they put the ring on your finger. It isn't your fault you walked out of the store with the property, if they didn't want you to they should have never put the ring on your finger.

How is this still going?

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Originally Posted by airborneranger

How is this still going?

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Sheer willpower : )

Watch this... I read that this same bank will be installing seat belts and all of the customers will be required to wear them while transacting business. Really unprofessional cops will stop by every hour to issue tickets for those not wearing their seat belt. The bank manager will be making certain that no one CCWs inside the bank and if you try, the manager will ridicule you and tell you that your gun is poop.

I read it on the Huffington Post, so it must be true ; )

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Originally Posted by cstone

Sheer willpower : )

Watch this... I read that this same bank will be installing seat belts and all of the customers will be required to wear them while transacting business. Really unprofessional cops will stop by every hour to issue tickets for those not wearing their seat belt. The bank manager will be making certain that no one CCWs inside the bank and if you try, the manager will ridicule you and tell you that your gun is poop.

I read it on the Huffington Post, so it must be true ; )

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Awesome! now this post will beat the post whore thread in a matter of hours!