Hah! Ever since I snapped the ACL in my right knee, it doesn't like me much either. Can't count on that fucker for nothin'.
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And..............What's the cheapest thing on a BMW??????????????
THE OWNER!!!
I've (until last year) HD's, indian, choppers, mostly touring, a few real hot rodded hd's and 3 beemers, 85 K100, 87 K1100lt and a real nice 98 R1100RT. All great mc's but still not the wave at ya rider. I'm too busy watching mirrors, ahead and all over seeing how anything on 2 wheels has an invisibility cloak to 99% of cages.
If you get upset because i or someone else did not wave back, you have other issues to work out.
More and more I see these inexperienced middle aged guys buying big hogs for their first bike and hitting the road ... frankly I'd prefer these guys NOT take their hand off the handle bar to wave.
Wow. Some very rude drivers, bike or no.
Out here the country everyone waves at everybody, whether you know them or not.
Not waving back is considered very rude. So it driving past someone who is broken down.
Out here where we rely on others and you neighbor, not waving or helping a broken down motorist is a great way to end up on everybody's "dick" list.
For those that have lived in the city their whole life and don't get this just realize you probably won't get help on the side of the road as you wait and wonder why nobody stops to help you.
As far as Harley rider's waving... aren't they usually just broken down and asking for help? Sorry, not a HD fan... more the opposite.
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Even if I know them I probably won't wave because I'm not looking at other riders or the bike their on, I'm on my ride enjoying myself, I didn't head out for a wave and acknowledgment. Now if we met in a bar or a local stop with a bunch of bikes, I would say "Hi" and not ask what you rode first, I don't care. Its like riding with someone you don't know, I would NOT ride next to them until we've ridden together for a while. I don't know how they ride and react so I would not expect them to know what I would do either, so I won't ride next to them and don't care if they are offended. "Brother" is another thing that bugs the shit out of me, especially with other Harley riders. We have not fought side by side in a bar or in the service, you have not bailed me out or helped in a personal situation that I or he was in to deep to get out alone. That is reserved for those people, not every asshole on a Harley.
So no, I don't wave, I do ride Harleys, and I am not a dick and those that think so are narrow minded and only remember some guy on a Harley didn't wave back, oh my, what a dick!
By the way, I voted I like pie.
If you'd bother to have fully read and understood the poll options you MIGHT have a slight idea of why the hell I posted the way I did.
Option 1: I ride a Harley and I wave.
Option 2: I ride a Harley and you don't, bugger off!
Options 3-6 are irrelevant.
Do you not see how the OP already has it in his pea brain that if you ride a Harley and you don't wave its because the other rider is NOT on a Harley? And thus they are somekind of dicks because of it... Did I REALLY have to spell that out for you?
It has not one god damned thing to do with being cordial. People wave all the time, if I don't know them, I typically figure they thought I was someone else, a simple case of mistaken identity, and just go about my business. There's no elitist mindset to it at all. While I've made it very clear I'm not exactly a people person, I can assure you there are quite a few people in this very forum whom I've met and I'd wager they'd likely agree I can be a very civil, if not a pleasant person. But most if not all who take the time to know me will also tell you I maintain an EXTREMELY low tolerance for bullshit.
As far as helping, I've stopped for many riders on the side of the road but I'll say right now that sometimes such an act can be a double edge sword. Many times you stop and they're fine, just stretching legs, waiting for others to meet up, bike is too hot, or maybe they genuinely need a little assistance and you can be helpful. But I've stopped before and ended up sitting in cuffs on the back of a state cruiser while my info was being checked out. My appearance was apparently cause for alarm. When you hear "We don't want any trouble!" before you can even ask the question of whether or not they need help, it kind of makes you stop and go "huh?". My stopping freaked this guy's ol lady out and she immediately dialed 911. Long hair, tattoos, and certain patches apparently scare the hell out of some people. Sometimes minding one's own is just a better way to help have an enjoyable day.
Badger
I feel completely vindicated. After Badger's last couple of posts I'm pretty sure I can no longer win the "Biggest Shithead on the Forum" title.
Maybe I should start my own poll to find out.
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I know you, you're my cousin. Same family, long on hello, short on bs.Tattoo's, long beard, no patches [lifetime far, far away]. They put you in cuffs? wow i got guns drawn, gently placed in the prone position, then tossed in the car and carted off.
No Good Deed goes Unpunished.
When we do right, No one Remembers
When we do Wrong, No one Forgets.
Hey i just missed someone that waved......[ROFL1]
Bottom line...you don't wave, you're being rude. End of story. If you're fine with that then that's your problem. But it's rude, plain and simple.
OK...that's just bullshit. If I happen to be paying attention to some dumbass cage driver that's trying his damnedest to kill me and don't feel like jeopardizing my already compromised safety to wave to you, it's not being rude. It's being a smart rider.
Or maybe I've chosen not to wave because, big surprise, there's other things out there in the world to pay attention to besides you and your waving little hand. Maybe I didn't see you. Maybe I'm looking at the instruments on the bike. Maybe I'm watching the deer on the side of the road that you didn't see because you're too busy waving to all your "brothers".
If your little butt hurts because of that then you need to reassess your priorities while riding.
End of story. Plain and simple.
The wave is gay IMO but do what you do
I rode sport bikes (had 2 stolen, the other I sold to start saving $$$ and it got stolen from the buyer 3 days later lol, they found it in mexico the next week amazingly) and in Cali, 98% of everyone waved back, including the harley riders. When someone didn't wave back, they were usually a harley rider, fat, old, with long grey hair and a "F you, sportbike rider" attitude. They'd stare at you and not wave. Real tough!
Waving, after a while get's to be a pain in the ASS! To many bikers, got tired of it after a bit... Don't feel snubed Harley guys don't always wave to Harley guys...
Well you can justify it however the hell you want, it's goddamn rude. If you're not a good enough rider to wave safely then I suggest riding on less populated roads. I ride safely and I wave...why can't you?
Oh that's right, because you don't care about being rude to other riders. I guess you'll just keep on thinking I'm stupid for waving at you an I'm gonna keep on thinking you're a rude asshole for not waving.
Lot of "sensitive" members. Don't wave, your just plain rude and a meany. We should know what kind of vehicle you drive, this way we can wave at everyone. If not would we be rude? Really, what age demographic are you in?
Look either you do or don't wave, flip off or just ignore another rider. I see one on the side of the road i slow down, or pull over if they need assistance. I've never been bent out of shape because someone didn't wave to me. 38 years in the saddle and i don't sweat the light shit.
YMMV
I wouldn't sweat it. most of those guys are so old they probably couldn't even see ya
"but, but, you have to wave at me! I went out and bought a bike, so I could try and fit in, I used to get beat up in school, the AV club would take my lunch money, I spent lots of money on all this gear, I have a huge payment, the dealer said I would have lots of new bike riding friends"
unbelievable. grow up you pussies. if someone doesnt wave at you, why the hell would you really care? Unless she was hot and stacked. Then you can be bummed out. But, of course her real biker boyfriend would probably snap you like a twig.
so, dont sweat it, if people dont wave. go home to your mom to get your ego boost. tell her how you won the 4 th grade miss congeniality award.
as far as helping other bikers, i help anyone, biker or not. I have stopped on i25 and drove 80 miles out of my way to take a guys bike home in my truck, when he broke down. I have driven way out of my way with slurpee cups filled with gas in my lap, to help bikers who were out of gas. I just dont like to wave.
So, in your mind, there is absolutely no justification not to wave at someone while riding? That's really quite astounding.
Furthermore, you apparently didn't read the entire thread. Or maybe you can't comprehend what others are saying. Like this:
If you can't understand that someone might not wave for a variety of reasons you're not a safe rider. Or a smart rider. Or maybe you're just too close-minded to even attempt to see the other side of an argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bailey Guns
Whatever...
Maybe this will make your mangina feel a little better:
https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/im...Ezm24nWkrzgHBA
Look everyone! I waved. I'm not an asshole any longer. Well, OK. But I did wave.
Just a bunch of rude, inconsiderate old men who think beig a biker is still cool. Go ride with your patches and your attitude and wreck somewhere.
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Is this a gun forum or has it turned in to some chick lit bitch session, or even worse Oprah.
Hbar and others know me. I speak my mind, don't wave at you , it isn't because i'm Mr. Mean. I'm busy paying attention to everyone else, who thought you were some wanna be from their "Book Club" waving at them, while hitting their brakes.
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So while we are having an all out bitch-fest here, I was actually thinking the other day, how if I did ever decide to get a bike, that I would most likely NEVER go on a group ride. I feel like when people get together in big groups, they act like douche balls and attract the wrong kind of attention. Used to see it all the time in car clubs.
You know...you old people better be careful how you treat us youngins. You keep acting like you do **COUGH** Jim, badger, hbar, bailey**COUGH** and enough of us young people will get fed up with your shit. Then we'll put you all in a home and take all of your guns away. And good luck stopping us because we're bigger, stronger, faster, smarter and (because we all grew up playing those goddamn video boxes you all loathe so much) better shots than you.
i agree Irv, I dont like to ride in groups. I have, but I didnt like it.
Hey I wnat everyone of you LOW life POS mother Fuckers to wave at my 3500 dually badd ass mother fucking 1 ton truck or I will personally beat your ass, I know who you are.
I hate when you give a guy a reach around, and he doesn't return the favor. Oh wait wrong thread. Sorry.