Romney Speech

Butt raped or Colonoscopy?

I will take the colonoscopy. At least then you find out what the problem is and have a chance of curing it.

Butt raped you just get an STD that kills you.

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Originally Posted by BPTactical

Butt raped or Colonoscopy?

I will take the colonoscopy. At least then you find out what the problem is and have a chance of curing it.

Butt raped you just get an STD that kills you.

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Haha I prefer picking your president this election is like picking your STD.

Eff. [Bang]

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Originally Posted by hghclsswhitetrsh

Haha I prefer picking your president this election is like picking your STD.

Eff. [Bang]

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Yes, but I'm pretty sure Obama would classify as gonosyphaherpaids.

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Originally Posted by DD977GM2

The reason it is a vote for nobama is the fact that the vote for Romney or in any other PRESIDENTIAL election
for the Republican candidate is wasted on a candidate that HAS NO CHANCE AT WINNING.
Your vote is thus , by defination, wasted on a candidate that was not going to
win in the first place and allows the close race to be decided with a "Patsy" vote, thus allowing the dumnocrat to be re-elected.
If you voted for the Republican candidate,Romney in this case, it was one vote closer to ousting
that sh*thead in the White Hosue right now.
If you truely want nobama to be defeated, suck it up and vote for the Republican.

If given a choice between a colonoscopy (voting Republican) or being butt raped (Democrat), Id gladly choose the colonoscopy.
I dont wanna have either procedure performed on me, but I will choose the lesser of 2 evils.

But by god vote that 3rd party so you can sleep better and know you did the right thing. Well you didnt do the right thing, would have been better if you didnt vote at all.

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This is why we will never see any real change in politics. Too many people are afraid or dumb to actually vote the way they should. If enough people actually voted third party instead of listening to this reasoning we might actually get some good people in office.

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Originally Posted by newracer

This is why we will never see any real change in politics. Too many people are afraid or dumb to actually vote the way they should. If enough people actually voted third party instead of listening to this reasoning we might actually get some good people in office.

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Im not afraid, Im looking at reality of the system. This election to fucking important to
throw my fucking vote for the libertarian or tea party canidate that I feel represents my beliefe structure.

RIGHT FUCKING NOW, this is a 2 party goddamn country. No if ands or buts.
You vote 3rd party, your voting for another 4 years of that dipshit.
19% voted for Perot. If that same 19% votes for Romney, he wins.
If that 19% or even as small as 5% vote 3rd party, oblammy is reelected.


Is this really a difficult concept to understand? A 3rd party candidate IS NOT GOING TO WIN THE ELECTION THIS GO AROUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This boils down to SIMPLE MATH.

46% + 5% = 51%
45% + 2% = 47%
3rd party wasted votes = 2%


That 46% can be either Romeny or nobama right now.

Im sorry Im getting pissed cuz of the stupididty of some folks and their desire for a 3rd party candidate.

Not just on here but my work and those around me.
This election, if a 3rd party vote is cast, it is not helping
this country one bit. A simple equation that some find very difficult to understand.


I WANT A LIBERTARIAN OR TEA PARTY CANDIDATE IN OFFICE, but I know it will not happen ON THIS FUCKING ELECTION.

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Originally Posted by DD977GM2

Im not afraid, Im looking at reality of the system. This election to fucking important to
throw my fucking vote for the libertarian or tea party canidate that I feel represents my beliefe structure.

RIGHT FUCKING NOW, this is a 2 party goddamn country. No if ands or buts.
You vote 3rd party, your voting for another 4 years of that dipshit.
19% voted for Perot. If that same 19% votes for Romney, he wins.
If that 19% or even as small as 5% vote 3rd party, oblammy is re[-elected.


Is this really a difficult concept to understand? A 3rd party cnadidate IS NOT GOING TO WIN THE ELECTION THIS GO AROUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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How do you really feel Gabe, cmon just say what you feel[LOL]

You are absolutely correct.
Until a 3rd party is accepted by the mainstream American voter, a 3rd party vote is in fact a wasted vote.
We can wish on our ideals as much as we want, but ideals will not unseat the marxist bastard sitting at 1600 Pennsylvania will it?

That is our first and foremost priority.

And almost 50% of the people eligible to vote in the last election did not. Until "we the people" wake up and change it nothing different will happen.

This post in another thread is dead on for me.

http://www.ar-15.co/forums/showpost....5&postcount=14

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Originally Posted by newracer

And almost 50% of the people eligible to vote in the last election did not. Until "we the people" wake up and change it nothing different will happen.

This post in another thread is dead on for me.

http://www.ar-15.co/forums/showpost....5&postcount=14

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That 50% sheeple have nothing to complain about. It would be great if 10% of them would get off their ass and vote for Mitt. God help the first person that whines to me that didn't vote.

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Originally Posted by newracer

This post in another thread is dead on for me.

http://www.ar-15.co/forums/showpost....5&postcount=14

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^This. You can get as mad as you want and keeping screeching that third-party votes are wasted, but you're just perpetuating a cycle of stupidity. I guarantee those of you saying this BS this time, will be saying it again in four years. ETA: if you want to rant and rail against something, put that energy into having Gary Johnson allowed in the debates. If the Libertarian party got the same amount of press as the R and D parties, we would never need to have this conversation again.

Every time I hear "I don't like Mittens, but he'll be a lot better than Beeho," I just shake my head. You have no clue what you're going to get from Romney. His stance on any issue sways with the wind; he'll be a pushover for any lobbyist that knocks on his door. Best-case scenario we'll get another Dubya, issuing record executive orders and signing unconstitutional shit like the Patriot Act.

I think you need to direct all your misplaced anger and energy toward the nepotism in the GOP that ignores the voice of the people and installs whatever candidate a small group of elites thinks is best. The RNC will lose this election for the Republicans, not the third-party voters.

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Originally Posted by Teufelhund

The RNC will lose this election for the Republicans, not the third-party voters.

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Especially after the way they changed the nomination rules from winning a minimum of 5 states to winning 8 states so that Ron Paul would not get nominated. They blatantly ignored, disrespected, and shunned Ron Paul and his delegates...

Watch the video in this thread and see how crazy and totalitarian the Republican Party has become. You want to follow the process to bring about a positive change? If they don't like your ideas, they will abandon you, shun you, discredit you, and barely stop short of labeling you as the enemy.

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Originally Posted by foxtrot

Difference between idealist and a realist.
Realist: Understand that BHO will likely get the opportunity to appoint another supreme court justice within the next 4 1/2 years, completely reversing the balance of the court for - likely forever.

You don't recover from that.

Idealist: If we vote for a 3rd party candidate, next time around he will get more funding, and if we keep doing that, then maybe after 85 years of electing staunch liberals who re-regulate the education system to further indoctrinate the vast horde of our youth to become staunch liberals, they will get elected!

[BDay][Luck]

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This is spot on what I feel and not antiquated enough to say!!!!!

All the 3rd party voters. Thanks a fucking lot. Hope I don't
Have to say " I told you so" if dipshit gets re-elected

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Originally Posted by DD977GM2

All the 3rd party voters. Thanks a fucking lot. Hope I don't
Have to say " I told you so" if dipshit gets re-elected

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Chill out dude. Being hostile is not going to sway anyone to vote the way you want them to.
Using coercion and threats and fear is exactly the reason 3rd party/independent/libertarian voters will absolutely not change their vote for you.

And for the love of the Grammar-Gods, can we please correct the title of the thread? It's "speech" not "speach"

alright, for the delusional, heres the problem. liberals have not and likely never will go for a third party candidate. it always stems from the conservatives because we all want the country to ideally go back to how it was originally intended, and sadly even the republican party is liberal, i mean john f kennedy would in many ways be considered conservative by todays standards. the republicans move us towards liberalism slower, but still move us that direction. most of us want to be more extreme and reverse the direction. i truly hope it is someday possible. but liberals will always for forever vote democrat, period. that means when a third party comes in it ONLY SPLITS THE CONSERVATIVE VOTE!!!!! yes, we need to change that, but the best time to do it is when a republican is already in office and the democrats have a weak opponent, not when the most liberal president of all time is in office with a cult following in possibly the worst crisis this country has faced in several decades. you can be an idealist all you want, you can pat yourself on the back, and be holier than thou, but its a 100% guarantee that obama will be re-elected. if you honestly think romney would be worse than obama, then fine, vote third party. if you don't, then take one for the team and vote for romney. i don't like the guy either, but the destruction of this country is undoubtedly going to be slower under him and at least conservatives tend to keep their officials responsible for their actions.

NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO BE DIVISIVE!!!! if ron paul even tries to run as a third party candidate he clearly only cares about himself and not the country. anyone can see obama will win with even a slight slip up by republicans. this cannot happen. yes he got screwed by the republicans, and the way they changed the rules was low and cowardly. i don't support it and i hope they reverse it, but right now we need to band together and throw the bum out. this isn't a typical election where there is a democrat we all just think is inept and has bad policies. this is an administration that has shown time and time again they want to systematically change this country for the worse. they also are consolidating executive power like never before.

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Originally Posted by HoneyBadger

And for the love of the Grammar-Gods, can we please correct the title of the thread? It's "speech" not "speach"

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Its a touchy subject Politics that is. I didn't want to inflame the masses by spell checking everyone.

I think you need to direct all your misplaced anger and energy toward the nepotism in the GOP that ignores the voice of the people and installs whatever candidate a small group of elites thinks is best. The RNC will lose this election for the Republicans, not the third-party voters.

Every time i received a mailer from the GOP asking for a donation,{they're getting to be like dudley!} I wrote them expressing my dissatisfaction with the way they have handled candidates who IMHO would fair better than Romney. 3 mailer from them was the last.
The issue runs deeper than just national elections. The GOP screwed Tom Tancredo and Bob Schaeffer and went with un electable people so we are stuck in CO with the dem's running shit in to the ground. Not doubting the GOP wouldn't give them a run for the money.

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Originally Posted by Teufelhund

You have no clue what you're going to get from Romney. His stance on any issue sways with the wind; he'll be a pushover for any lobbyist that knocks on his door. Best-case scenario we'll get another Dubya, issuing record executive orders and signing unconstitutional shit like the Patriot Act.

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One thing on this, sure we may not know exactly what we're going to get from Romney, but we kind of have a general idea. The real problem comes from the fact that we know what we're going to get from Barry: 1776-2016... RIP America.

There's always someone out there I'd rather have although there is no civil servant I really feel strongly about. But if voting for any 3rd stringer ends up getting me Obama, I think I'll take my chances with Romney & Hope we get a Change.

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Originally Posted by tmckay2

alright, for the delusional, heres the problem.

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So I guess I'm the delusional one this is aimed at?

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Originally Posted by tmckay2

liberals have not and likely never will go for a third party candidate.

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Completely false. Look at all the liberal groups on Facebook supporting Ron Paul. A simple google search for "democrats for ron paul" (in quotes so it searches for that exact phrase) yields 98,000 hits and a similar search for "liberals for ron paul yields thousands more. There are literally thousands of youtube videos of liberals, democrats, and former Obama supporters who support Ron Paul

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Originally Posted by tmckay2

sadly even the republican party is liberal... the republicans move us towards liberalism slower, but still move us that direction.

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This is somewhat true, but the real problem lies in corporatism and a government that has the power to expand itself.

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Originally Posted by tmckay2

but liberals will always for forever vote democrat, period. that means when a third party comes in it ONLY SPLITS THE CONSERVATIVE VOTE!!!!!

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Again, not true.

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Originally Posted by tmckay2

you can be an idealist all you want, you can pat yourself on the back, and be holier than thou, but its a 100% guarantee that obama will be re-elected. if you honestly think romney would be worse than obama, then fine, vote third party.

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I believe this has already been discussed to death in the legislation/politics forum.

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Originally Posted by tmckay2

NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO BE DIVISIVE!!!! if ron paul even tries to run as a third party candidate he clearly only cares about himself and not the country.

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Which is why Ron Paul has clearly stated multiple times that he will not run as a third party candidate.

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Originally Posted by tmckay2

yes he got screwed by the republicans, and the way they changed the rules was low and cowardly. i don't support it

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Not just cowardly, totalitarian. They didn't like the influence he was having on their party and so they literally threw him out. He wants to shrink the corporatist federal government which would hurt the mainstream Republican Party, so they cast him aside, changed the rules of the game, cheated, whatever you want to call it.

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Originally Posted by tmckay2

this isn't a typical election where there is a democrat we all just think is inept and has bad policies. this is an administration that has shown time and time again they want to systematically change this country for the worse. they also are consolidating executive power like never before.

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Systematically change the country for the worse? Like President Bush and your beloved Republican Party did? Patriot Act? Creation of the TSA and many other ridiculous governmental organizations with unlimited reach and power? Bush more than doubled Clinton's federal spending. Bush signed an almost unprecedented number of executive orders. The War Powers Resolution was ignored by Reagan and Bush before Obama. Bush deserves a legitimate portion of the blame for the current economic problems, but he just opened up the doors for Obama to make it worse. Bush also kickstarted the overbearing government growth that we are fighting right now.

You say that Obama's administration is doing so much harm to our liberty, but you ignore the damage done by Bush's administration.




ETA: I'm heading to a wedding now, so I'll have to catch up after the weekend. Please don't let this stop you from posting a thoughtful rebuttle with legitimate and reasonable points.

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Originally Posted by sroz

There's always someone out there I'd rather have although there is no civil servant I really feel strongly about.

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Be careful with that word... Politicians don't like it, they don't understand it, and they don't think of themselves as that. [Bang][Bang]

I have a great Idea, Lets call The Constitutionalists, Libertarians, Tea Party Members and all of the other independents derogatory names and tell them how stupid they are while using liberal media scare tactics to try and get them to vote the way we want!

and if that won't work use a really large font in bold.
Always a convincing argument.
[ROFL1]

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Originally Posted by brandonsmart

I just get livid when people can't see past their own biases to see what is best for this country.

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So do you think Romney is what is BEST for the country?

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Originally Posted by DD977GM2

This is spot on what I feel and not antiquated enough to say!!!!!

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Did you just call foxtrot old?

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Originally Posted by Irving

Did you just call foxtrot old?

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Yup.

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Originally Posted by Byte Stryke

I have a great Idea, Lets call The Constitutionalists, Libertarians, Tea Party Members and all of the other independents derogatory names and tell them how stupid they are while using liberal media scare tactics to try and get them to vote the way we want!

and if that won't work use a really large font in bold.
Always a convincing argument.
[ROFL1]

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Thanks for summing up my feelings. [Beer]

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Originally Posted by Irving

So do you think Romney is what is BEST for the country?

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I think he means out of the choice we have... Eew, eat the shitty sandwich or the SHIT sandwich?

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Originally Posted by Irving

Did you just call foxtrot old?

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I was able to use the word antiquated ( probably out of context ) and sounded good

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Originally Posted by newracer

And almost 50% of the people eligible to vote in the last election did not. Until "we the people" wake up and change it nothing different will happen.

This post in another thread is dead on for me.

http://www.ar-15.co/forums/showpost....5&postcount=14

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but does that count the % that vote democrat multiple times? does it count the % of illegals that somehow manage to vote. Does it count the leeches that Acorn brings in on buses to vote?

Hopefully a percentage of those who haven't been voting are waking up. We will see in a few months.

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Originally Posted by foxtrot

Difference between idealist and a realist.
Realist: Understand that BHO will likely get the opportunity to appoint another supreme court justice within the next 4 1/2 years, completely reversing the balance of the court for - likely forever.

You don't recover from that.

Idealist: If we vote for a 3rd party candidate, next time around he will get more funding, and if we keep doing that, then maybe after 85 years of electing staunch liberals who re-regulate the education system to further indoctrinate the vast horde of our youth to become staunch liberals, they will get elected!

[BDay][Luck]

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Don't forget to add into that idealist category the liberals who continue to pander to illegals, low-life's of every race, and the other leeches that are happy to live off the government.

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Originally Posted by HoneyBadger

And for the love of the Grammar-Gods, can we please correct the title of the thread? It's "speech" not "speach"

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leave him alone, he has a speach impediment. [ROFL1]

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Originally Posted by sniper7

leave him alone, he has a speach impediment. [ROFL1]

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speach impedalment

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Originally Posted by HoneyBadger

So I guess I'm the delusional one this is aimed at?

Not just cowardly, totalitarian. They didn't like the influence he was having on their party and so they literally threw him out. He wants to shrink the corporatist federal government which would hurt the mainstream Republican Party, so they cast him aside, changed the rules of the game, cheated, whatever you want to call it.

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First, I don't think he was talking to you.
Second, I think the Republicans did what they did to prevent another Ross Perot situation.

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Originally Posted by Irving

First, I don't think he was talking to you.
Second, I think the Republicans did what they did to prevent another Ross Perot situation.

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What situation is that? Where the people dare to vote outside party lines in order to elect the best person for the job?

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Originally Posted by Teufelhund

What situation is that? Where the people dare to vote outside party lines in order to elect the best person for the job?

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Yeah, the situation where 19% of people voted for Ross Perot, and 81% of the people voted wrong.

first, when did i ever say i love the republican party? i actually hate the republican party. they are as corrupt as democrats, but they are slightly less bad because they at least have slightly less liberal views.

second, just because i didn't mention bush (since he really has nothing to do with this discussion) doesn't mean i in any way supported what he did. he was the most liberal republican president in quite some time. just so i am sure i understand your central thesis here, obama isn't so bad because bush was bad? ok...

that being said, if you don't think that obama is actively trying to morph this country into something different, you aren't paying attention. and if you really think liberals are going to rally to vote for ron paul, you are very much delusional. if ron paul runs and you vote for him, pm me your address, ill send you a thank you card when obama is re-elected. its a simple game of numbers. yes, i don't like romney much. yes, i don't like the republican party or their antics. yes, we need a third party, or better yet, several parties. no, this is not the time to split the republican vote and give obama another term.

i pretty much live in academia and the health care field, pretty solid breeding grounds for liberals. my wife is a teacher, also lots of liberals. sadly the majority of my friends are liberals, we are proof opposing political parties can get along. in all the circles i live in i have never, ever heard a liberal even remotely support ron paul. most of them mock him as much if not more than romney, which is impressive. others have joked they want him to get the nomination because it will be an easy win for obama. whether true or not i don't know. i watch a fair amount of news and use several social networking sites often and again have never seen democrats or liberals supporting ron paul. a few facebook groups have a few thousand likes that are liberals or democrats for ron paul, although ironically one has a few thousand and is basically saying they want him to get the nomination so obama has an easy win. a few thousand is peanuts. obama has over 30,000 likes from a colorado group alone.

you can't dispute that a third party or republican division this year means a win for obama. its irrefutable. now you may value "taking a stand" and having obama win over having a slightly less evil win, and if thats the case, fine, just say so. but if you think obama is pretty freaking bad and romney wouldn't be quite as bad, then i question why in the world you would vote for someone you know can't win and will only give the victory to obama. its not a matter of virtue, its a matter of being rational about how things are going to play out. i think a "third party" would actually have a legitimate shot at usurping romney in the next four years and beating him in the primaries. it may be unprecendented, but i think it can happen. that option is not organized well enough to be done this year and obama is too powerful of an adversary. i don't know who they will have run next election, but i can't imagine democrats will be able to come up with another person that can rival obama's ability to blind people into voting for him despite everything he stands for and what little he has done. if they get hillary to run next election and we have mittens in office, especially with fairly poor turn around numbers, a third option could be very viable. right now its a guaranteed win for democrats. why anyone would be for that is beyond me, republican hate or not.

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Originally Posted by HoneyBadger

So I guess I'm the delusional one this is aimed at?

Completely false. Look at all the liberal groups on Facebook supporting Ron Paul. A simple google search for "democrats for ron paul" (in quotes so it searches for that exact phrase) yields 98,000 hits and a similar search for "liberals for ron paul yields thousands more. There are literally thousands of youtube videos of liberals, democrats, and former Obama supporters who support Ron Paul

This is somewhat true, but the real problem lies in corporatism and a government that has the power to expand itself.

Again, not true.

I believe this has already been discussed to death in the legislation/politics forum.

Which is why Ron Paul has clearly stated multiple times that he will not run as a third party candidate.

Not just cowardly, totalitarian. They didn't like the influence he was having on their party and so they literally threw him out. He wants to shrink the corporatist federal government which would hurt the mainstream Republican Party, so they cast him aside, changed the rules of the game, cheated, whatever you want to call it.


Systematically change the country for the worse? Like President Bush and your beloved Republican Party did? Patriot Act? Creation of the TSA and many other ridiculous governmental organizations with unlimited reach and power? Bush more than doubled Clinton's federal spending. Bush signed an almost unprecedented number of executive orders. The War Powers Resolution was ignored by Reagan and Bush before Obama. Bush deserves a legitimate portion of the blame for the current economic problems, but he just opened up the doors for Obama to make it worse. Bush also kickstarted the overbearing government growth that we are fighting right now.

You say that Obama's administration is doing so much harm to our liberty, but you ignore the damage done by Bush's administration.




ETA: I'm heading to a wedding now, so I'll have to catch up after the weekend. Please don't let this stop you from posting a thoughtful rebuttle with legitimate and reasonable points.

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Originally Posted by Irving

Yeah, the situation where 19% of people voted for Ross Perot, and 81% of the people voted wrong.

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LMAO that's great. Well played, sir.

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Originally Posted by Irving

Yeah, the situation where 19% of people voted for Ross Perot, and 81% of the people voted wrong.

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I was one of the 19% (as was my brothers, mom and dad). However they are liberal dems