Romney Speech

[Teufelhund]

This post in another thread is dead on for me.

http://www.ar-15.co/forums/showpost....5&postcount=14

^This. You can get as mad as you want and keeping screeching that third-party votes are wasted, but you're just perpetuating a cycle of stupidity. I guarantee those of you saying this BS this time, will be saying it again in four years. ETA: if you want to rant and rail against something, put that energy into having Gary Johnson allowed in the debates. If the Libertarian party got the same amount of press as the R and D parties, we would never need to have this conversation again.

Every time I hear "I don't like Mittens, but he'll be a lot better than Beeho," I just shake my head. You have no clue what you're going to get from Romney. His stance on any issue sways with the wind; he'll be a pushover for any lobbyist that knocks on his door. Best-case scenario we'll get another Dubya, issuing record executive orders and signing unconstitutional shit like the Patriot Act.

I think you need to direct all your misplaced anger and energy toward the nepotism in the GOP that ignores the voice of the people and installs whatever candidate a small group of elites thinks is best. The RNC will lose this election for the Republicans, not the third-party voters.

[HoneyBadger]

The RNC will lose this election for the Republicans, not the third-party voters.

Especially after the way they changed the nomination rules from winning a minimum of 5 states to winning 8 states so that Ron Paul would not get nominated. They blatantly ignored, disrespected, and shunned Ron Paul and his delegates...

Watch the video in this thread and see how crazy and totalitarian the Republican Party has become. You want to follow the process to bring about a positive change? If they don't like your ideas, they will abandon you, shun you, discredit you, and barely stop short of labeling you as the enemy.

[DD977GM2]

Difference between idealist and a realist.
Realist: Understand that BHO will likely get the opportunity to appoint another supreme court justice within the next 4 1/2 years, completely reversing the balance of the court for - likely forever.

You don't recover from that.

Idealist: If we vote for a 3rd party candidate, next time around he will get more funding, and if we keep doing that, then maybe after 85 years of electing staunch liberals who re-regulate the education system to further indoctrinate the vast horde of our youth to become staunch liberals, they will get elected!

This is spot on what I feel and not antiquated enough to say!!!!!

All the 3rd party voters. Thanks a fucking lot. Hope I don't
Have to say " I told you so" if dipshit gets re-elected

[HoneyBadger]

All the 3rd party voters. Thanks a fucking lot. Hope I don't
Have to say " I told you so" if dipshit gets re-elected

Chill out dude. Being hostile is not going to sway anyone to vote the way you want them to.
Using coercion and threats and fear is exactly the reason 3rd party/independent/libertarian voters will absolutely not change their vote for you.

[HoneyBadger]

And for the love of the Grammar-Gods, can we please correct the title of the thread? It's "speech" not "speach"

[tmckay2]

alright, for the delusional, heres the problem. liberals have not and likely never will go for a third party candidate. it always stems from the conservatives because we all want the country to ideally go back to how it was originally intended, and sadly even the republican party is liberal, i mean john f kennedy would in many ways be considered conservative by todays standards. the republicans move us towards liberalism slower, but still move us that direction. most of us want to be more extreme and reverse the direction. i truly hope it is someday possible. but liberals will always for forever vote democrat, period. that means when a third party comes in it ONLY SPLITS THE CONSERVATIVE VOTE!!!!! yes, we need to change that, but the best time to do it is when a republican is already in office and the democrats have a weak opponent, not when the most liberal president of all time is in office with a cult following in possibly the worst crisis this country has faced in several decades. you can be an idealist all you want, you can pat yourself on the back, and be holier than thou, but its a 100% guarantee that obama will be re-elected. if you honestly think romney would be worse than obama, then fine, vote third party. if you don't, then take one for the team and vote for romney. i don't like the guy either, but the destruction of this country is undoubtedly going to be slower under him and at least conservatives tend to keep their officials responsible for their actions.

NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO BE DIVISIVE!!!! if ron paul even tries to run as a third party candidate he clearly only cares about himself and not the country. anyone can see obama will win with even a slight slip up by republicans. this cannot happen. yes he got screwed by the republicans, and the way they changed the rules was low and cowardly. i don't support it and i hope they reverse it, but right now we need to band together and throw the bum out. this isn't a typical election where there is a democrat we all just think is inept and has bad policies. this is an administration that has shown time and time again they want to systematically change this country for the worse. they also are consolidating executive power like never before.

[Great-Kazoo]

And for the love of the Grammar-Gods, can we please correct the title of the thread? It's "speech" not "speach"

Its a touchy subject Politics that is. I didn't want to inflame the masses by spell checking everyone.

[Great-Kazoo]

I think you need to direct all your misplaced anger and energy toward the nepotism in the GOP that ignores the voice of the people and installs whatever candidate a small group of elites thinks is best. The RNC will lose this election for the Republicans, not the third-party voters.

Every time i received a mailer from the GOP asking for a donation,{they're getting to be like dudley!} I wrote them expressing my dissatisfaction with the way they have handled candidates who IMHO would fair better than Romney. 3 mailer from them was the last.
The issue runs deeper than just national elections. The GOP screwed Tom Tancredo and Bob Schaeffer and went with un electable people so we are stuck in CO with the dem's running shit in to the ground. Not doubting the GOP wouldn't give them a run for the money.

[Ronin13]

You have no clue what you're going to get from Romney. His stance on any issue sways with the wind; he'll be a pushover for any lobbyist that knocks on his door. Best-case scenario we'll get another Dubya, issuing record executive orders and signing unconstitutional shit like the Patriot Act.

One thing on this, sure we may not know exactly what we're going to get from Romney, but we kind of have a general idea. The real problem comes from the fact that we know what we're going to get from Barry: 1776-2016... RIP America.

[sroz]

There's always someone out there I'd rather have although there is no civil servant I really feel strongly about. But if voting for any 3rd stringer ends up getting me Obama, I think I'll take my chances with Romney & Hope we get a Change.