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[ROFL1] That's some funny shit right there.Quote:
Originally Posted by dwalker460
While it would look like opportunity to China.Quote:
Originally Posted by dwalker460
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Originally Posted by Irving
But if it's on the internet it must be legitimate!
Id move to Texas. I wouldn't want to pay the import taxes on LaRue stuff!
I would like to personally secede from the union,
Opportunity for what? China is terrified of the number of gun-owners in the U.S. already, and Texas epitomizes that picture. I think China would know they'd be writing a check their ass couldn't cash.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rucker61
You may be right, but note that every invading force in the last century has included artillery and other heavy weapons which typically aren't owned by the opposing citizenry, even in Texas. This whole conversation is pure fantasy, because the Federal government is not going to let any state secede.Quote:
Originally Posted by Teufelhund
That.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rucker61
That would definitely suck. I don't think you can have any kind of privately-owned Howitzer in Texas. The laws may loosen up a little if Texas had to defend itself from an aggressor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rucker61
Yes, of course it is purely hypothetical. This comes up every four years or so (go figure), but doesn't typically receive so much media attention. It would never actually happen. Hell, nearly half of Texas voted for Obama. That said, is it actually within the Federal government's power to prohibit any State from leaving?
Screw the Feds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goodburbon
Outside of the 1860's, has a peaceful secession ever been attempted? I would imagine if you had a majority in a certain state decide to it would be possible. We all want to avoid any civil war or violence, and the way states rights have been deteriorated over the last 100 years or so, it would seem their grievances are legitimate and I don't believe there is any law that states a state within the union doesn't have the right to withdraw.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rucker61
Instead of fleeing, why don't you make THEM have their own country. Start a petition to give California (except San Diego and surrounding county) back to Mexico and New York/New Jersey back to England -- or perhaps Canada as the geographically-closest member of the British Commonwealth. Hell, throw Vermont in there too so we can dump Bernie Sanders on another country ... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by jackthewall81
Secession? Not exactly but there has been a sovereignty movement in Hawaii for the last 30 years attempting to get the US to recognize the fact that the American Ambassador and detached Marines supported an illegal and hostile overthrow of a friendly and cooperative government which was recognized throughout Europe as a sovereign power. One of the many problems with their premise is that most of the people in the so-called sovereignty movement are themselves Marxists that would have been protesting the Hawaiian Kingdom if it still existed. Another major issue is that the Kamehameha line no longer has any recognized heir and neither does the Kalakaua family so the only available legal construct (e.g., election through the Office of Hawaiian Affairs) has never had any standing as a sovereign power.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronin13
Actually the initial secession by the Confederate states was peaceful ... but then the South Carolinians couldn't stand the thought of armed American troops "occupying" Ft Sumter (and Lincoln certainly wasn't going to order their retreat) and instead of waiting for some sort of peaceful, legal removal of the US troops they just started shooting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronin13
Now considering how many US military outposts there are in Texas, I expect something similar would happen. Even if Texas was allowed to secede, they wouldn't be allowed to expel US troops and certainly wouldn't be allowed to nationalize them. Which probably wouldn't set too well with Texans.
Of course I've been suspicious that all these petitions have shown up on the White House web site ... I smell a rat. Either the White House is collecting the names of "enemies" or they're planning for the eventual dissolution of the US (which would probably be followed soon after with invasion by the Chinese or Russians ... one of which Obama has bowed to, the other he's promised "more flexibility after the election").
This whole thing is significant on other levels. When there is a general response given, regardless of what it is, the media will report and the message is out there. Then in a couple years when we are collapsing like Greece the secession will be a more warranted and desired outcome with the proper backing and the government will not be able to do anything about it. It is getting the idea out there that is important and for the right reasons. Economic downfall is the right reason and if things get as bad as the could over this next term you will indeed see the support needed for a secession to take place. Either that or I think that we should all buy a nice little island somewhere and set up our own little government there with our own currency and tell the US to pound sand when they come looking for tax dollars.
Like I said in the other secession thread, I'm suspicious that all these petitions have shown up on the White House web site ... I smell a rat. Either the White House is collecting the names of "enemies" or they're planning for the eventual dissolution of the US (which would probably be followed soon after with invasion by the Chinese or Russians ... one of which Obama has bowed to, the other he's promised "more flexibility after the election").
Even BO isn't dump enough to let go his money making R's
"I claim this island in the name of our new nation! Guntopia!" [Coffee]I can dig it! [Beer]Quote:
Originally Posted by Danimal
I dunno- he sure seems dumb enough to alienate and push them away... Whatever happens, I don't like where this all is heading.Quote:
Originally Posted by ronaldrwl
F22 raptor is made in texas.
I wonder if China would accept the northeast as payment for the debt that they hold....
No, they've got enough unproductive mouths to feed at home ... no, I expect that China will want states with productive people, industry and agriculture. Unfortunately for them, that's where the people that will shoot back live :pQuote:
Originally Posted by TFOGGER
If TX wants to go... I say let them. I believe that no state should be held hostage. If they want to go and vote for that, I wish them well.
http://youtu.be/qCLz7XQOIOQ
This video is for comic purposes... Well I know I laughed.
DC IS the world's largest producer of hot air, and just look at the amount of bullshit coming out of NYC... the Chinese are industrious enough to figure out how to convert that to usable energy...Quote:
Originally Posted by Zundfolge
If this Country were truely free, a state could just walk away. Yet the Confederation of states has been taken over by an over powered central government.Quote:
Originally Posted by Circuits
The F22 Raptor is no longer in production.Quote:
Originally Posted by DOC
Well then it was the F35. The new Jetfighter.
Something else to consider:
There are 7 active duty Air Force bases in Texas, and several of them are the biggest training bases for the air force. Lackland is where very airman goes to bootcamp. Sheppard, Randolph, and Laughlin are all huge pilot training bases.. About 80% of Air Force pilots train at one of those three bases. Goodfellow is the home base of the Air Force's intelligence school. Texas leaving the union through any means would sit like a rosebush up the Fed's ass.
NVM Repost got to excited here a link the the other thread http://www.ar-15.co/threads/71409-Pe...House-response
you many now call me dumbass
You all can have TX... lol TX wants to go, I figure the rest that have decided the world has ended because Obummer got elected can seek political asylum there.
OK, Dumb ass. [ROFL1] JK. I'm just couscous how this is going to play out. Zombie Apocalypse is coming. Or end of the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aperta
Don't you think that the Dems would LOVE for Texas to get out of the US? Remove that huge block of electoral college votes and it pretty much seals the deal for the Dems to control the US until they have completly marginalized and socialized the remainder. And we wonder why Romney lost...we are arguing about Texas leaving, they are laughing hoping Texas does leave. Heck a Dem probably started the petition.
Dems don't want any state to succeed. Power and control is all they want, over as many as possible. Nope, they are all about disarming the populace and shoving their ideology down everyone's throat.
Why are are we even wasting time on this? Nothing more than an exercise in self-flagellation. Total waste of time and thought as it can never happen.
Yeah single stack has it 100% right... just ask the voices.
Actually singlestack has it exactly right, and it has absolutely nothing to do with the voices in nynco's head (ass). Make as many as possible dependent on the gov't, and Democrats (liberals) will be in control until the nation falls.
Given the economic influence and military strength of texas if they were to be allowed to do what they want. They would be bombed. Destroyed. We would have a fence off from mexico.
Not to mention oil and gas prices would skyrocket.
Colorado can join them and we can use the oil here and the oil there to fuel our fight with the rest of the fly around country.