If you're selling here, the feedback is a useful tool to see what kind of person you are selling to.
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If you're selling here, the feedback is a useful tool to see what kind of person you are selling to.
+1 on the feedback section, beat me to it Ray.
Don't meet outside of any movie theaters or close to any schools........Quote:
Originally Posted by Punkface
I always bring someone with me whether buying or selling and let someone else know where i am going. Always get proof that they stated they are legal to own and check ID. I specifically ask in emails if they are legal, tell them I will need to see cdl or ccw and save those emails. Close enough to a bill of sale for me.
My rules are simple: Meet in a public place(prefer my place of business). See an ID(or better, a CCW) to verify residency if I don't know the person. Ask "Is there any reason under state or Federal law that you would not be able to purchase this firearm?", again if I don't know them. Gut check: if it doesn't feel right, it probably isn't. If all of those things pass, then conclude the transaction, shake hands, and carry on.
Personally, and with my recent job, I ask for a signed receipt. I won't argue the legalities and if it does or does not protect you in case of something bad happening, but in my book it never hurts to get a signed receipt from the buyer stating they can legally own a firearm and are taking possession of it from you....
Could you simply ask the buyer to fill out a Form 4473 for you and get a copy of their drivers license? At least you would have their signature and answers to the questions that every other gun dealer needs.
Being from boulder... you are excused.Quote:
Originally Posted by def90
I have wondered one thing about bringing a friend...
isn't the definition of a gun show 3 or more people and that would require a 4473 in colorado? TECHNICALLY... I mean...
3 way transaction, yes.. 3rd wheel, no
So you're saying it is okay if another gal just watches. I'm going to go upstairs and run this by management. Wish me luck.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChunkyMonkey
[Coffee]
Considering how bad identity theft is anymore, why would anyone give out a copy of everything needed to ruin your credit forever?Quote:
Originally Posted by def90
Sure, give me a filled out 4473, a copy of your DL. And your signature....... And how about your bank account and credit card number while you are at it ?...............Quote:
Originally Posted by def90
Um.. all you need is the guys name on it, the answered questions stating that it is legal for them to buy the firearm and his signature.. who said anything about credit card numbers and bank accounts? I don't remember ever having to put any of that info on a 4473 anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by SideShow Bob
Don't think anyone else has addressed your question.
http://www.ar-15.co/threads/77733-Private-FTF-Gun-Sales
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Originally Posted by def90
SSN Address DOB Name..... all you need to jack someones ID....
Sarcasm intended, as mentioned in the post before mine, identity theft.Quote:
Originally Posted by def90
If you are that paranoid, have the buyer meet you at an FFL dealer, you pay the fee and have the dealer do a BGC on the buyer. Then in about a week you can sell the firearm to the buyer with confidence that there are no problems.
BOS is more than enough - I avoid this as hard as I could. 4473 asks for date of birth, ethnicity, place of birth.. more than enough info to pull one's credit w/o the SSN number. Furthermore, I see 4473 as 'an infringement' already.
If you cannot be an adult and trust the person you are about to transfer your firearm to, then don't! This is why I trade within the small circle within this forum. You want 4473, go to the damn dealer and pay transfer fee. You have no business collecting anyone's private info.
I always ask to look at a DL/ID and ask the obligatory "In all seriousness, is there any reason under federal, state or local laws you are prohibited from owning a firearm?"
I haven't had a "yes", so no worries. (Don't sell if they say yes, even jokingly)
Due diligence is all that is required.
This was a great thread to read. Did not find it during my searches.Quote:
Originally Posted by jim
So basically, Seller Beware, FTF, public spot, backup person, look at the CDL, ask if eligible, oh, and double check on the forum for any feedback.
Good stuff. Thanks. I will be posting my "stuff" tomorrow...
What does a Commercial Drivers License have to do with a private sale . What no CDL, No Sale ?Quote:
Originally Posted by ccrain
I hear you on that, I do not exist if you "search" my name.Quote:
Originally Posted by ccrain
Colorado DL? Just miss posted not knowing about a true CDL?Quote:
Originally Posted by SideShow Bob
Another vote to make sure you use the feedback section. It is really important.
Wish someone would tell that to the last 3 sellers I bought from who didn't return the feedback favor.Quote:
Originally Posted by KevDen2005
On arms list there was a few posts about some BGs passing fake bills... So count and feel your cash or better yet bring one of those counterfeit pens.
pm them to get off their ass, I'll do it for ya. Hell i'm in a good moodQuote:
Originally Posted by Rooskibar03
^^^^^ This! Don't ask, Don't tell. IMHO!! [NoEvil]Quote:
Originally Posted by jim