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Yeah... I think it is pretty clear. It went on for about 20 minutes and when I tried to counter it... it stopped for about an hour. But they started it back up and are going even faster now. I can't counter it on my own. And like NYNCO said... since I'm not behind a firewall... they will probably be giving me a call a bit later. hehe So I'm gonna stop trying to counter it and just let it go. I can't keep up with 'em by myself!
Yeah, the pro-1224 votes are coming in now at just a bit over exactly 1 per second, at a constant pace, no interruption. Running some math, if this doesn't stop, the poll will be at 50/50 in about 4 hours. By the end of the workday the entire picture will be reversed, most likely.Quote:
Originally Posted by brobar
And, of course, it'll be waved around as a victory.
I have a VPN but for some reason my HMA account is having a hard time locking on the Denver servers. That happens during business hours.
Yep. Wouldn't surprise me if they let it run until it flip-flops to 80 in their favor, 20 in our favor and then have a firestorm of emails to Hick saying "see... the people are in favor of this" RIGHT BEFORE he signs it! Sneaky little bastards!!!
This site has turned into a fucking tinfoil party.
well we do have evidence they are out to get us :)
No on this one ridge, its very easy for a firm that is hired to hit their servers with a script to flip the count. The fact that this poll is staying up for this long indicates that someone is trying to change the results and the poll will stay until they get what they want. All the other denver post polls last 1 day.
I don't know about that nynco... the concealed carry on college campus poll has been up for a week (heavily in our favor). Doesn't mean they won't hit that one next after they are done with this one... but you can still vote on it at the moment.
I could be wrong, I don't pay attention to the polls all the time. I only go to them when you all call for us to do our part.
Denver Post polls can stick around for days. They usually cover hot topics or sporting events. Since there is only March Madness going on now, that leaves the hot topics. And since this whole thing is going on at this very moment, it makes sense that it has lasted. Especially since the thing only went up ~15 hours ago. Less than a day.
If you go to the following page: http://www.denverpost.com/opinionpol...ubnav_Op_Polls
You'll see 8 polls. They keep 8 polls on there at any time. When a new poll gets put on the front page... the 8th (and oldest) poll drops off. You can vote on any of the 8 polls until that last one drops off (meaning a new one has been added). The way they prevent multiple votes from a single person is through cookies. The easiest way to circumvent that is through Safari... (BEFORE you load the page in safari... go into the settings and change it to where it denies all cookies... then turn on "private browsing"... then you can vote as many times as you want. If you want to take it to the next level... have several tabs... tabbing through each once to click the radio button... tabbing through each again to submit... rinse and repeat).
So they either have a script that is doing this for them dynamically... or they've got a dozen or so people just doing it non stop. My guess is a script because they sure haven't tired in these past couple of hours.
The sustained pace that the votes are coming in makes it pretty clear what's going on. Check it at 1 minute periods. The gains in the 'pro-1224' votes will be almost identical every minute. The (lower) gains in the anti-1224 votes are varied and sporadic. -- trust me, i'm a big skeptic on "tinfoil hat" stuff. This poll has shifted 10% in the last hour, and the pace isn't varying. There's no "conspiracy", but there might be, as I said, some hipster kid in an IT department who thinks he's saving the world.
Today I learned someone actually uses Safari...
You can do the same thing in Chrome by going into your cookie settings and selecting "Block sites from setting any data" and then bringing up a "New Incognito Window".Quote:
Originally Posted by Ridge
Chrome is my browser of choice... I just found it faster to do in Safari.
Yeah... at the pace they are going... we would need at least half a dozen guys going non-stop... maybe even a dozen to counter it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cylinder Head
You have a poll on there that has been open for a week... and it has half the votes of a poll that has only been open for a day? I don't think you need a tin foil hat to see what is going on there.Quote:
Originally Posted by brobar
Oh well... you either fight fire with fire. Or you let it run its course. IF you fight fire with fire... you run the risk of them saying "see... it is rigged".
EDIT: I did not mean to quote myself. hehe
I really hope the Hick doesn't put much value on a DP poll. Anything that open to abuse is only for fun.
While I don't think poll numbers would sway him either way... don't think for a second he wouldn't use those numbers to help justify his vote if the numbers were in his favor! If the dems can use an almost 2 decade old poll in their argument in favor of universal background checks simply because the results were in their favor... I'm sure they would continue to play that game!
Well, I think the Post sucks, it always has....I was a RMN guy myself. Even if the poll won't be taken seriously by anybody important, I voted anyways.
I voted!
I would think that even if you clear cookies that the poll could be recording IP address. So just doing that may still be traceable due to IP.
Agree. It depends on how they have the polls setup. For a simple, quick, easy to design poll... they could be using the cookies as the "fail safe" and just incrementing the number in a database based on a vote. If they want to throw in security so they can do reporting (break down a poll based on demographic, location, etc...) then they would be logging multiple things to a database that goes along with each vote... and that would be IP, type of browser, type of OS, time, etc...Quote:
Originally Posted by nynco
My guess is that they are probably doing the latter if their programmers are worth their salt... but if they are lazy then it very well could be the former. Access logs will still show the ladder even if they aren't storing vote info in a database.
We're winning by almost 10,000 votes! A giant [fyou]to the Post.
Let's make it 20,000!
Voted. Keep it up guys, VOTE NOW- KICK THEIR LIBERAL ASSES!
Same. I was legitimately saddened the day a guy showed up where I worked with a handtruck and wheeled away their newsstand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Otterbatcat
We were winning 80-20
now we are only up 69-30 and falling fast.
I think they dropped the poll? And put up a new one? I was wondering what it ended at
They did drop it, and started a new one. Someone mentioned earlier in the thread about page 8 still has polls going on it....if I read that correctly.
They put up a new one on the home page... but the one regarding HB 1224 and 7 others are all still up and running here:
http://www.denverpost.com/opinionpolls
we've dropped another percent since I last checked.
Their script (or group) pounding the poll is running double speed compared to earlier this afternoon. They are picking up a percent about every 10-15 minutes now. They'll catch up in a few hours.
This is total bullshit, they've gotten thousands of votes out of nowhere, and you can bet its sanctioned by the lefties at the postQuote:
Originally Posted by brobar
Someone probably linked the poll at Huffpost.
It's a nonscientific poll that doesn't mean squat.
Sent from my tactical android.
It is through cookies. I trashed mine and could vote again.Quote:
Originally Posted by nynco
In IE..Quote:
Originally Posted by Rabid
Tools -> Internet Options -> Privacy -> Sites -> denverpost.com -> block.
It looks like they’re getting about 4 votes per sec.
It's accelerating again there are a hundred votes every few minutes.
Watch Hickenlooper use it as a justification for signing the bill...Quote:
Originally Posted by Gman
Who cares what this rigged poll says, the recall/2014 election will tell the truth.
IF ANY of you believe HICK has any feelings one way or the other regarding polls of any kind give it a rest. The entire Gun Control debate was rigged from the get go. Minds were made up, wording of laws were scripted by bloomberg, etc etc. The fat lady has sung accept your fate and do what you feel is necessary regarding any gun law signed 7/1/2013.Quote:
Originally Posted by aryntha
Judging from a lot of board members post / replies i have no doubt 15-30% of you will fall lock step in line. Another 15-20% will, if not alread,y be selling your evil guns, just because you're weak and have no back bone. The rest of us, well we've been through it before and will over come obstacles.
i voted, the votes on our side are huge, how the f... did these guys get elected in this state?
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Originally Posted by Otterbatcat
Me too. Miss the layout. Was awesome to read on the shitter!