Douglas Co Sheriff Weaver and ATF 41P

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Originally Posted by Circuits

Does no one ever READ these forms they're filling out, and the instructions that are provided?

Instructions item 2e on the third page of the form 4 itself. Item 2f on the form 1 instructions. Additional examples beyond those specifically stated in the form have been documented in the past, and you may write to the ATF to request a list of additional acceptable persons if you wish.

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I am aware and READING the form would of gotten me to the ATF only. And again I ask, can you name a single person in those positions who will sign off?

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Originally Posted by Samurai

I am aware and READING the form would of gotten me to the ATF only. And again I ask, can you name a single person in those positions who will sign off?

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A few phone calls will get you answers. Does someone else need to do your leg work. I can get the sheriff or chief of police to sign off.

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Originally Posted by Samurai

And again I ask, can you name a single person in those positions who will sign off?

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I don't live in Douglas Co - why would I bother researching something like that?

The sheriff is not the only one who *can* sign, so it's not like you're one and done after 41P changes are enacted. It'll be up to you Douglas Co-ians to find other ways to stick it to the man.

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Originally Posted by jim

A few phone calls will get you answers. Does someone else need to do your leg work. I can get the sheriff or chief of police to sign off.

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Nope, don't need anyone to do the leg work. My point was that I doubt any people in those positions would sign off on it. So rather than call around and paint a target on my back I chose to do the LLC route. And good for you it is not that easy for all of us

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Originally Posted by Samurai

Nope, don't need anyone to do the leg work. My point was that I doubt any people in those positions would sign off on it. So rather than call around and paint a target on my back I chose to do the LLC route. And good for you it is not that easy for all of us

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You're on a gun forum and worried about a target on your back. [facepalm]

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Originally Posted by jim

You're on a gun forum and worried about a target on your back. [facepalm]

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I know what you are trying to do, so just drop it if you have nothing meaningful to contribute to this thread. I do not care what your opinion is at this point, go play in another thread.

Not too mention that they are two different things a face to face would require my full name and personal info including the items I have/want. Posting on a gun forum does not put a target on you, you are under the guise of anonymity. Hence the reason we use handles rather than our full names.

Back to the purpose of this thread I still think it is worth the effort to talk to weaver about this. I just wanted to gain other people's opinions

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Oh boy....

Let me get this straight. Newbie with a whole 7 posts -- who didn't even read the form he's asking about -- is telling jim to go play in another thread? Okay ... [facepalm]

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The chief law enforcement officer is considered to be the Chief of Police for the maker’s city or town of residence, the Sheriff for the maker’s county of residence; the Head of the State Police for the maker’s State of residence; a State or local district attorney or prosecutor having jurisdiction in the maker’s area of residence; or another person whose certifcation is acceptable to the Director, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms and Explosives.

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So you know for a fact that District Attorney Brauchler would refuse to sign your form? or Attorney General Sutherland?

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Originally Posted by Samurai

I know what you are trying to do, so just drop it if you have nothing meaningful to contribute to this thread. I do not care what your opinion is at this point, go play in another thread.

Not too mention that they are two different things a face to face would require my full name and personal info including the items I have/want. Posting on a gun forum does not put a target on you, you are under the guise of anonymity. Hence the reason we use handles rather than our full names.

Back to the purpose of this thread I still think it is worth the effort to talk to weaver about this. I just wanted to gain other people's opinions

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You don't really know how the internet actually works do you.

Then to the point, if you're not willing to go through the effort of doing the legwork should the llc/trust option be shut down, then why are you willing to submit all those forms to the ATF in the first place? And if it is shut down, I guess you'll just have to go without.

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Originally Posted by Samurai

I know what you are trying to do, [panic] so just drop it if you have nothing meaningful to contribute to this thread. I do not care what your opinion is at this point, go play in another thread.

Not too mention that they are two different things a face to face would require my full name and personal info including the items I have/want. Posting on a gun forum does not put a target on you, you are under the guise of anonymity. [ROFL3]Hence the reason we use handles rather than our full names.

Back to the purpose of this thread I still think it is worth the effort to talk to weaver about this. I just wanted to gain other people's opinions

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I believe some of us gave you our Opinion.

You are asking about a FEDERALLY REGISTERED (yes folks i used registered) ITEM, which requires you to file paperwork in duplicate. WHICH has your full name, address and location on it. You are worried about a face to face with someone that may or may not sign off [facepalm]

This contradicts your Anonymity / FACE TO FACE sentence.

I still think it is worth the effort to talk to weaver about this.

Gotta run time for work.
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