Stupid ar pistol legal question....

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Originally Posted by kidicarus13

What's a past example of the ATF reruling on something?

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BRP XMG-99 on a full auto lower or with a DIAS.

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Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo

When you price a Sig brace, buffer tube, spring & buffer new. For a few dollars more i'd Form 1 everything.

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Originally Posted by balyon885

There's no waiting period on a brace though.

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Originally Posted by Roger Ronas

Or your name on a list.
Roger

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There is no way I'm paying those morons when I can have a Sig Brace.

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Originally Posted by Roger Ronas

Or your name on a list.
Roger

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^ Truth

What's the difference between a pistol lower and a rifle lower?

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Originally Posted by funkymonkey1111

What's the difference between a pistol lower and a rifle lower?

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Essentially nothing. If the lower was transferred from the FFL as "other" like it should be it can be built as a rifle or a pistol. Once assembled as a rifle though, it's always considered a rifle and can't be reconfigured into a pistol.

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Originally Posted by ray1970

Essentially nothing. If the lower was transferred from the FFL as "other" like it should be it can be built as a rifle or a pistol. Once assembled as a rifle though, it's always considered a rifle and can't be reconfigured into a pistol.

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thanks--ok, next stupid question--is there a difference in a "pistol" upper? or do you just buy the barrel length you want, chuck it on the lower, and as long as you don't have a stock, you've got the AR pistol?

The only physical differences between rifle and sbr is the barrel and gas tube length

The only differences between rifle/sbr and pistol is buffer tube, stock, barrel, and gas tube length.

The rest is just bureaucratic bullshit brought to you by your friendly government alphabet agencies.

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Originally Posted by funkymonkey1111

thanks--ok, next stupid question--is there a difference in a "pistol" upper? or do you just buy the barrel length you want, chuck it on the lower, and as long as you don't have a stock, you've got the AR pistol?

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ANYTHING less than a 16" barrel is considered a NFA / SBR or Pistol Upper. DEPENDING what your plans are. I have X SBR's and X pistol lowers (already set up as) How many uppers and what barrel length i have is irrelevant. As anyone, outside a Vague legal interpretation would agree.

AS for "chucking it on the lower" ONLY if you purchased the lower as OTHER or PISTOL.

Form 1 it so you don't have to have that ridiculously hideous brace on the end.

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Originally Posted by mutt

How do you figure? The brace is only about $40 more than something like a B5 sopmod or other similiar stocks. You'd still have to buy all the other parts so that is a wash. Then we have to tack on the $200 for a stamp and whatever you paid to setup a trust if you have an Anti-2A Commie for a CLEO in your county. Then there's the cost of 922r compliance if you are SBRing a foreign made weapon which can be significant.

The brace frees you from all that. No more NFA entanglements. No more Form 1s. No more trusts/CLEO signoff. No more 922r compliance requirements. No more having to ask Federal permission to take it across state lines, etc. You can even conceal carry it in back pack if you like and not run afoul of hunting regs. It may be ugly but it's 100% functional and gives us a way around the unconstitutional NFA and its arbitrary restrictions on something as stupid as barrel length. Given a choice I'd rather give my money to Sig or Century Arms instead of feeding the ATF.

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Until you get your nuts crushed in a vise from some ATF asshat that was unknowingly hanging around when you shouldered it.

Never gonna happen right? Do you want to be the test case?

The trust fee gets cost averaged... :D