Ya... food is a hell of an addiction.......Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr_Fwd
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Ya... food is a hell of an addiction.......Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr_Fwd
I'm not either. I just happen to know a lot about this subject, and the way the body works (in specific functions *i.e. a lot about a little, and a little about a lot). Wife has a degree in nutrition, mother in law is a doctor, and the last roommate I had I helped him study to become a doctor... Oh, and a background in Biotech helps a little (just schooling, no actual job).Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnhack
I am not scared of offering helpful advice. If someone is allergic to something like lets say, tomatoes, then I expect them to be smart enough to not put tomatoes in the juice.
Nice! I weighted myself yesterday morning. Will see if there's any changes tonight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jer
It's best to weigh yourself at the same time each morning. Trying to weigh yourself in the morning and then again at night might make you pull your hair out since you tend to gain a few pounds during the course of the day as you take your water weight back on. I get up in the morning, take a squirt and then weigh myself. Same routing yields consistent results.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr_Fwd
Also, this is an internet forum. People can take my word for what it is, I hope they do their own research on the subject also. I will not lead anyone on, I have nothing to gain here other than the satisfaction that I get to help some fellow members. I am offering out so much, because I have done so much of the research already, and I'm very much so a person that looks at the "facts", and then who published the "facts" to see if they are actually legit. The bad thing about this subject, is that you can find as much negative stuff on the internet, as you can find positive. You actually have to look up the sources, and in many cases, sources site sources that site a couple other sources that end up being just someone's opinion. There were a few times when the list of sources was so long (I think it was with specific enzymes that help your body process a specific amino acid) that I just gave up and looked up another one on the same subject.Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnhack
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Originally Posted by Dr_Fwd
The best time, is when you have to go shopping for new clothes because what you have is too baggy, and you look ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jer
yeah people read and put to use information from the internet at their own risk. the people posting it don't retain liability, especially when not an expert. you're just giving your experience nothing wrong with that.
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Originally Posted by spyder
i dont want to go off topic here (which means i sort of am). Ive never researched an all juice diet, but it sounds interesting. OP after you try the juice diet you might want to research intermittent fasting (Fast and Feast). I did a 16hr off 8hr on for 3 months and lost 60lbs. Good part is you get to eat food :)
i used this site: leangains.com for most of my resource information. awesome job at wanting to stay healthy!
How do you feel?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr_Fwd
Wow, that sounds like a lot of parsleyQuote:
Originally Posted by spyder
You don't get much juice from it or cilantro.Quote:
Originally Posted by zip
We did it, well my wife did it strictly for health reason. She had chronic hives, and steroids were starting to lose their effect (she searched a cure for chronic hives and found FS&ND). I did it for a couple reasons also. I did it mainly as support for her (as even with what I read, I was skeptical), although I was hopeful because of a few things that I would have liked cleared up. It helped us both out tremendously in the end, and now I am a complete believer.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcjhr
thats awesome! I'll be watching this thread as well. Bravo for supporting the better half!
Hungry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparky
Okay, we watch FSAND tonight. This would really be a challenge for me, but I/we are interested in trying a ten day. Us supporting each other will be the greatest hurdle. I have a hard time even eating left overs sometimes, just because it is the same food twice. From what I'm seeing, it seems like the first five days are the most difficult. I was thinking I could start on a Thursday or Friday to have the best chance at feeling normal by the next work week. Inspiring thread so far.
I would recommend starting Friday morning. That way you have the weekend to get over the detox. Come Monday, you should feel fantastic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
I'm gona jump on this again...
Screw it. I'm starting today. It's not like I need to be 100% at work anyways.
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Day 3! Minus 5lb! So far so good!
OP, thanks for inspiration!
Feeling better yet Dr_Fwd? I just had some Naked Juice for breakfast and have been watching the clock for lunch time since I got in. I'll eat a salad.
I had a Naked Juice at 6 and am feeling pretty good. No hungrier than I would usually feel. I'll be having another for lunch and then pick up a juicer after work.
This morning is officially one week since I started. As of weigh-in this morning I've lost 15.4lbs and I feel great. The heart burn issues seem to have subsided since getting back on my heart burn meds and I'm slowly figured out how much juice I need to drink. I'm thinking I may have been drinking too much juice so I will still continue trying to feel this out. The few flavors available to me of the Blothouse Farms juices are starting to taste not as good so I need to get my hands on a juicer so I can start adding in more variety otherwise I may start to dislike these. Clothes are fitting better and I can start to see a difference and I like the direction this is headed. The foods I miss most are Chinese food, sushi & BBQ with a shorter craving for Mexican food every now and then. It hasn't been too bad though overall and I'm looking forward to continuing this until I'm a healthier version of myself.
Feels pretty good. For me the toughest time is evening, I feel so freaking hungry every evening. .. will see how it goes today.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
Oh, and I'm doing juices and water only, no other food.
I had some t-shirts that I wore regularly that I'm not swimming in & the ones I had that were too tight to wear are now the ones I wear. These are all shirts with the same size on the tag. Pretty soon I'll be getting out the old boxes of smaller sizes I put away as I got fat and seeing what fits and still looks decent. Once I get settled on a weight I can shop for some new stuff which will be great since there's a bunch of shirts I want to order right now but I really wouldn't know what size to even order. Last thing I want is to buy something I can only get a month out of. These are good problems to have. [rockon]Quote:
Originally Posted by spyder
Someone earlier commented on the fact that Spyder isn't a doctor to be qualified to give out advice. I don't subscribe to this at all. In my personal experience and that of a LOT of people I know this 'expert' advice hasn't been very helpful in terms of overall health at all. In fact, most are quick to prescribe prescriptions and tack more on to combat the side-effects those create rather than saying... you need to lose weight. Doctors have become a larger source of skepticism for me lately than someone on the internet who has been through the same thing I'm going through.Quote:
Originally Posted by tmckay2
That sounds awesome but I'm also worried about cholesterol, hardening arteries and overall health in conjunction with weight loss. On top of that this juice fast is what is helping me to get away from food entirely for a short period to try to break the bad habits and cravings I have. It seems this diet might not be as healthy of an avenue but I will certainly research and consider it.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcjhr
Atta boy! You'll be glad you did in no time at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by blacklabel
Nice work! Heck, if a few other people end up getting healthier due to motivation created in part of this discussion then that's a pretty good feeling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr_Fwd
The nerves inside the body or different than the ones on the outside of the body. This is why heartburn can mimic heart attack symptoms and vice versa. Your hunger can also be quenched with liquids the same as solids so lots of time you hear people say that if you are hungry between meals drink some water and the hunger should subside. What I've discovered is that when you're 100% on liquids the 'full' feeling is slightly different. It's a feeling I'm still adjusting too because I think sometimes I'm drinking more juice than I need to. You still crave food too but those cravings change over time and get better... well, in my personal limited experience anyway and what I've read backs this experience up.Quote:
Originally Posted by blacklabel
Delete.
Yeah, I think evenings were harder for me but a big part of that is my wife would bring home food, cook food or re-heat food and the smells were intense even with the most bland of food. Heck, she grabbed a Caesar salad on her way home from work and ate it next to me outside with a breeze and even with all that I could smell and taste every single ingredient in the thing. I don't even like Caesar salads and I wanted to dive into that damn thing. The cravings are weird and commercials and smelling food will trigger them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr_Fwd
If you're the type of person who does this sort of thing then this diet isn't for you. My life is such that even if I could control my food cravings and what I take in there's no way I could work out 2-3hrs per day with my life currently the way it is. It just wouldn't work. I'm happy that that works for you and agree that it's a healthier way but it's not the only path to being healthier.Quote:
Originally Posted by hghclsswhitetrsh
Delete.
I think you should read post #38 of this thread, particularly the last paragraph. I think if you read that you will see why the basis of your post doesn't work for everyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by hghclsswhitetrsh
I have said numerous times now that my life doesn't allow it and believe me when I say this. I've been a work-out nut in the past and have MADE the time when I didn't have it. I'm an only child of a single mother who's cancer has taken a turn for the worse recently. Anyone who has been in these shoes knows that being a care giver (or the only one in my case) is an all-consuming thing and you can't plan for anything. If I had a normal 9-5 job at an office I'm not sure I would even have it anymore. Couple that with a dog that we rescued that was a mill dog and as a result she has some special needs. One of the behavior experts we're working with (yeah, one.. that's how bad she is) said she's a 0.01% dog with her set of issues. The shortened version of this is that she can't be left alone unless I throw them in the back yard. Depending on weather this is incredibly unpredictable. I can't crate her and I can't leave her alone in the house (again, I could go into detail but we're already WAY off topic) so my ability to leave the house to do anything is limited and is usually spent taking my mother to and from doctor appointments & emergency rooms and what not. So, when I am at home it's not like I can just put all of these things on hold and go run on a treadmill for an hour even if I could control my diet which is more critical to over-all health and I've explained why in post #38, last paragraph.
I understand where you're coming from but like I said, you're trying to force a square peg into a round hole by putting your present situation on others and wondering why they just can't do what you do. I know because a decade ago I was the one telling people to make time and work out all the time and just eat better and.... I get it. But everyone is different and their circumstances are also different. I'm trying desperately to keep this thread on track and not bring my personal issues into the conversation because nobody cares about that. It would be much easier if some people would realize that not everyone's life fits what they picture and simply trusts when I say that this is the most healthy thing I can do right now. It's working well thus far and research indicates that side-effects are minimal if any. The hope is that this two months will buy me some time to where things can get a little more situated in my life and I am able to eat better and work out more and all of the above.
This thread is about juice dieting though so let's just keep the conversation to that. If you wanted to start a BJJ or other topic thread you can discuss those things there and I'm sure I may follow for research purposes and who knows, if/when my life changes to where I do have 2-3hrs (hell, even a half hour would be nice) to devote per day maybe I will take that hobby up. Right now it's simply not int he cards.
Ultimately I'm healthier today than I was 1 week ago so it's hard to argue with results.
I read a book about it by some quack (self described and proud of it) convinced me to try it. I lasted 3 days.
Good job and keep it up.
Just curious about using a juicer - what do you do with the leftover material after the juice is extracted? Or is there even much left? Never been around one before, all I can relate to is an orange squeezer thing for making orange juice. Just seems like there would be a lot of pulpy material leftover - and do you have to add any water to create a quantity of juice? Or is it all right out of the food?
For purposes of this diet you would simply discard the fibrous material left over after juicing. What you want is the juice because that's where the highest concentration of vitamins & nutrients are which is what you're after with this diet. Once you're done you can use those leftovers for many things including making things like healthy snack chips and stuff. You won't need to add water to any of the juice as it's tasty just as it sits. Real juice before all the big $ corporations got a hold of the idea of juice and ruined it.Quote:
Originally Posted by rondog
Ate a salad from Wal-mart and bought a bag of cherries. The salad had chicken, croutons, cheese, and dressing.
I haven't officially started, but no reason to not eat healthier in the mean time.
I don't think you need to lose weight, unless you've become fat since our last meeting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
It's funny you saw that because the few days leading up to this I was making better decisions about what I ate and part of me was like.... there, 'I'll just eat better' but I knew it wouldn't last and I proceeded with the juice diet as planned. I feel like this is making a change in my life to where I can't help but make better decisions once I'm done. Without some sort of a big life change I knew it wasn't going to stick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
I've put on a good 25 lbs since I was in decent shape. Pretty much all of it on my stomach. I want it gone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr_Fwd
Fixed that for you. [Flower]Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
How much juice are you guys drinking in a day?
I don't have a quantifiable answer for you. I'm guessing on the order of 6-8 8oz glasses per day but I don't measure out and just drink whenever I feel hungry. Other than that I'm drinking water pretty much all day. I've seen some that have you measuring stuff out and are real strict about guidelines and I don't doubt that's ideal but so far I've done fine just winging it and listening to my body.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparky
Also, if you think that the Naked, or Bolthouse juices are the same, they are not, not even close. They might have a lot of some really good ingredients, but as you can read, they pasturize it which breaks down, and makes a lot of the nutrients, vitamins, and enzymes worthless to your body (kinda kills the whole idea). That is why you see vitamin C added to a lot of stuff, because pasturizing it actually breaks down the vitamin C to a useless amount of nothing, and they have to add it all over again (like orange juice). If it is pasturized, don't do a juice fast with it, I'm not saying it is bad, because I don't know... What I do know, is that all of the natural vitamins, nutrients, and enzymes < important* that makes this fast what it is known for, are mostly not in store bought juices in the quantity needed, if at all....... All you are doing with the store bought juices, is starving your body of calories, which ya, will make you still drop weight fast, but it isn't even as close to being as healthy for you as a fresh, natural juice fast. I want to throw that out there right now...........
Are you guys juicing organic or regular grocery store stuff?