How do you like that Ruger? I'm looking pretty hard at them now that my fund is rounding out...I could keep going for a sig though too. But lemme know your thoughts on it, thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunner
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How do you like that Ruger? I'm looking pretty hard at them now that my fund is rounding out...I could keep going for a sig though too. But lemme know your thoughts on it, thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunner
Naw- that's Dad's gun. Not parting with her. She's pretty rough anyway- that pic sucks but you get the idea around the muzzle. Rode in a holster on my Dad's hip from Normandy to Magdeberg, Germany. Shoots like a dream and stone reliable.
Springfield WW2 MilspecQuote:
Originally Posted by Atrain1
And the Colts are serialized (197PTO) and (197ETO)
I really like the way you put that mil-spec with that GI belt rig. Nice. I'm jealous.
Those are very nice have they ever been shot? and that is a really nice rig you have for the SF.
Any Colt Delta owners? That is my favorate 1911 from Colt.
I think it's bad etiquette to say "stain" and "crap" in the same sentence when referring to your bedspread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Atrain1
Is this post about my bedspread or about 1911 pictures since everyone is so concerned about my bedspread it is probably a stain from one of my 2 small children, if it makes you guys feel better it is no longer there as we wash our bedding every other day. Now that it has been addressed can we get back to what the thread is about thanks and have a nice day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bailey Guns
Only have 5 at the moment:
Kimber Gold Combat RL II:
http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/t...s/6b294de2.jpg
Kimber Ultra Carry II:
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Colt Combat Elite:
http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/t...s/ce98f0e7.jpg
1948 Colt Super .38 Automatic: (For Sale)
http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/t...s/d08a3c9e.jpg
1960's Vintage Colt 1911A1 70 Series: (No Photo)
The Kimber Ultra Carry is by far the best shooter with the old Series 70 a close second. Never had a failure with either and I stopped keeping track of how much I shot the Ultra after about 6k rounds. I think the Gold Combat will eventually become the most accurate. I just haven't shot it enough to break it in. I've never fired the .38 Super. The Combat Elite only has a few mags through it as well but so far so good. The CE trigger just can't compare to the Kimbers or the old Colt.
For fuck's sake, dude...lighten up and untwist your panties just a little bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Atrain1
Very nice I am not a Kimber guy but those are very nice looking guns, I look at that 38 super ever time I am one CGM that is a very nice pistol thanks for posting the pictures.
I'm pretty partial to Kimbers myself. I was one of 19 Master Dealers on their Dealer Advisory Board in 2006 and 2007. They'd fly us out to Vegas once a year for a big banquet and to fondle guns and we got to tour the factory in NY. They'd always make a big deal out of asking all of the dealers on the board what they should do, what models would we like to see and so on.
Then they'd go and do whatever they wanted. But, I got 2 free trips to Vegas with a helluva lot of free food and booze and a free trip to NY to tour the factory. So, it was worth it.
I love reading what some of the Kimber haters say online...most of it isn't true and is downright funny.
They must be doing something right. They sell every gun they can build 3 months before it's even built.
Here's mine:
Really though I'm not a fan of the 1911, but you guys have some nice guns there. Especially that Remington Rand (drool).
There is always someone out there that has to hate on some ones gun no matter what brand it is, look what happened when I put up my pictures some one said it was a bunch of crap when half of them you cant even tell what they are in the picture, that is just the way it is I dont hate Kimbers and I dont exactly like them either I would not own one but that is me and I have been known to bash kimbers from time to time, everyone has there 1911's that they like, I like S&W there is people out there that think S&W should not make 1911's I like the Kimber guys that say that, then I have to explain to them that S&W used to make there frames slides and some small parts anyone remember when kimber could not get the external extractor down that was when S&W was making there parts, I have got into it with my die hard Kimber friends and they will say things like buy a Kimber and you will have a real 1911 at that point we go out to the range and that SS PT1911 has not let me down yet, all the people I have come across think cause they have a high dollar gun they automaticly can shoot, I put in hours apon hours with my guns and thousands of dollars in ammo, for along time every time I got mad I would go shoot until what ever was bothering me was gone it is amazing how well you can become acquainted with your firearm. I have had Desert Eagle Para Ordnance RIA S&W Taurus Sig 1911's and alot of other 1911's I could keep going on but what is the point I have been very pleased with all of them, I have not owned a 1911 that I have not liked yet. I was shooting a hand soap container at 100 yards with my GSG 1911-22 yesterday it was pretty sweet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bailey Guns
AFAIK S&W never built slides and frames for Kimber, they were involved yes, but they simply sent raw forgings to an outfit owned by Kimber called Jerico where they were made to resemble slides and frames then sent to Kimber to be finished.
Thats what alot of people think cause no Kimber owner wants to believe he has a Smith but I dug deep and got to the point were they shipped the frames and slides ready to be assembled and Kimber assembled them, and they also made some small parts or maybe the MIM parts not to sure about that yet, it all stopped in 2001 I heard only a few years ago that they stopped I have not checked into it yet. and what I like about Smith is the external extractor works. I dont know if it is a coincidence that Kimber had a external extractor that did not work that well at all for a while, and S&W all have externals and rumor is that S&W made there slides but who knows maybe it is just a big fat coincidence. Here is part of some of the research I have done, just had to find it in my CP.Quote:
Originally Posted by Graves
Smith & Wesson--once again American-owned--is committed to building what shooters want, and shooters want Government Model .45s. And it's a relatively easy pistol for S&W to make. For several years the company has had excess manufacturing capacity and has been making all kinds of different parts for other firearms companies. It is not well known, but this traditional maker of top-notch revolvers also makes bolt actions for Remington and Weatherby, pistol receivers and slides for other well-known manufacturers.
Dwight Van Brunt of Kimber Manufacturing went on record in an issue of gun tests (Nov. 2003) and said "Kimber does not and never has used 'castings' for slides and frames"
"Kimber does not and never has sourced the machining of slides or
frames. We have always done it ourselves in Yonkers."
"Our relationship with Smith and Wesson has been limited to
purchasing raw forgings - little more than a brick of steel. Further,
S&W is just one of several sources for forgings we have done business
with in the past."
ETA: Do you have a source on those claims Atrain?
I can't speak as far back as 2001. When I was there in 2007 Kimber made everything in house except some grips.
I was under the impression that the only thing they got from S&W was the forgings...just like Graves said. That's all I've ever heard of.
Besides...what difference does it/would it make anyway? Lots of gun makers get parts from outside sources. It's not like it's something new.
And re: Kimber's attempt at an external extractor. The whole thing over the external extractors wasn't so much that they didn't work. Very few of the guns had issues. The real problem was the customer didn't like them because real 1911s have internal extractors. After almost a year, Kimber listened to their customers and switched back. Not only that but due to all the bitching they replaced the slide of any external extractor gun for any customer that wanted it at no charge.
Not too many companies are that responsive.
Hey Train- the offer to meet you to shoot (I might learn something) still stands. I took the Meanstreets Advanced Handgun course last weekend, me and TDYRanger are scheduled to go up to the Pawnee Grasslands this Thurs to do some longer range shooting during the day. FYI[Evil]
Here's my secondary or even third tier 1911. LOL Metroarms AC Commander. I have run about 2500 relatively trouble free handloads thru it. 230gr lead bullets. I had to adjust the slide catch and adjust the tension on the extractor when new. Bullets feeding up thru the mag would bump the slide catch and cause it to randomly hold the slide open. I adjusted the extractor tension and ejector to stop the cases from being thrown in my face. For $275 + tax it's a good shooter. Super accurate. Bluing virtually nonexistent. Recommend it to anyone that wants a great shooter for a super low cost and isn't worried about tweaking a couple things on the pistol. I bought some cheap grips from http://ultimate-equipmentstore.com/b...for101911.html when they were 20$. Grip screws keep walking out so they will get locktited in. See a trend?
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/imag...3c1ce5c489.jpg
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/imag...3c1cea5c3f.jpg
The trend seems to be that you get what you pay for. It might be worth it to drop that gun off at BPTactical and let Bert work on it a bit. He's a long way from Delta though!
Sure are a lot of nice 1911's here! I have one crappy phone pic of my TRP....
Those TRPs are crap. Want to get rid of yours?[Muaha]
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Originally Posted by sneakerd
LOL...heck no! ;)
I do love this thing though, shoots much better than I can!
I bought it from a gunsmith here by Delta (Ash Mesa Armory) who likes to mess with 1911s. He sold it to me for wholesale to try it out. Whenever I have a problem I take it back to him and he shows me how to fix it. I'm not really hating on the pistol because you cant make them for that price and not have problems. I've also had a RIA 1911 that had little things that needed tweaked on it. What I have problems with is the so called primary 1911s and the problems some of them have. If I have to tinker on them I'd rather pay 300$ instead of 1K+. Some of them sure look nice tho.Quote:
Originally Posted by sneakerd
I've got 1000 pounds of wheel weights that I plan to cast bullets with and run through this pistol by summer of next year. We'll see how it holds up.
Everything you said makes perfect sense to me. Good luck with that hogleg! Shoot the frack out of it. It'll still make you a better shooter, even if the pistol implodes in the end.
Here's another- well- not really. I think it almost counts though. This is my Sig 220 SAO with ambi-safety and beavertail grip just as on a good 1911. This .45 is just superb in every way- and Commander-sized, if a little thicker around the grips. 8-rnd mags, tritium sights of course. Very limited production and no longer made. Thanks to Crashdown!![Wave]
That is from S&W and I did not see raw anywere in there, they also used to make parts for Harley DavidsonQuote:
Originally Posted by Graves
That info came from S&W I have all kinds of info so when my kimber friends start talking about my 1911's I just show it to them to shut them up. I did not see anything in there about sending out raw parts it said slides and recievers I dont care I know what I know and I see all the kimber guys who dont want to believe they own a S&W (early kimber) but it does not change the facts, I wonder if that is why kimber had external extractors for awhile.Quote:
Originally Posted by Graves
Clearly.[Awesom]Quote:
Originally Posted by Atrain1
Smith also used to make parts for Harley Davidson
M57 and the M213
I'm pretty sure they're not actually related.........
It is A JMB design just thought I would share it I have 3 I dont know why all 3 are not in a picture, they almost look like a 1903 Colt 32 but bigger.Quote:
Originally Posted by sneakerd
Atrain, you comin' out to shoot mane?
Atrain is correct. It is referred to as a cousin to the 1911 on-line at "Gunblast", the online gun rag. What is "shoot mane"?
Mane = Mang = Man...mexicanized.Quote:
Originally Posted by sneakerd
Atrain, you comin' out to shoot with with us man? Maybe? Ah soooo.
Ever watch scarface meng? [Coffee]Quote:
Originally Posted by sneakerd
Yesss- I get it now. I don't have any Mex in me, so those obvious slang terms can often fly right over my head. You don't really think we could ever get him out do you?