Colorado sheriffs plan lawsuit challenging state gun control laws

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Originally Posted by Zundfolge

Yes, but I seem to recall that there were 3 or 4 Marijuana legalization ballot initiatives that failed before the one for Amendment 64 made it.

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That's not too encouraging.

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Originally Posted by Uberjager

That's not too encouraging.

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How is that not encouraging? There's too many in our camp that have 100% given up on the idea of an amendment via ballot initiative because the first two attempts failed to get off the ground.

I think a lot of people are in a "wait-and-see" frame of mind vis ah vis the lawsuit and the upcoming election. If the lawsuit fails I expect we'll see a lot of people start talking about a ballot initiative (which may be one reason they're going to delay releasing the judgement until its too close to the elections for an initiative movement to get on the ballot this election).

I agree. I'd really rather not go the ballot initiative route, but the pot thing was just a constant effort until they finally got their way. Liberals are great at that.

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Originally Posted by Jeffrey Lebowski

I agree. I'd really rather not go the ballot initiative route, but the pot thing was just a constant effort until they finally got their way. Liberals are great at that.

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I've got mixed feelings about the ballot initiative route ... it'll be a long row to hoe and we might not win, but if we do win we'll have strongly fortified our Federal 2A and state Article II sec 13 rights within the Colorado Constitution (which is more weight then simple legislation).

Yeah.

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Originally Posted by Zundfolge

How is that not encouraging? There's too many in our camp that have 100% given up on the idea of an amendment via ballot initiative because the first two attempts failed to get off the ground.

I think a lot of people are in a "wait-and-see" frame of mind vis ah vis the lawsuit and the upcoming election. If the lawsuit fails I expect we'll see a lot of people start talking about a ballot initiative (which may be one reason they're going to delay releasing the judgement until its too close to the elections for an initiative movement to get on the ballot this election).

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I thought the ship had already sailed on that for this election.

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Originally Posted by Uberjager

I thought the ship had already sailed on that for this election.

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Well I meant the General on November 4th, not the primary election June 24th. But yeah, it would probably be too little time to get the signatures in and approved before November.

There was a weak attempt at a ballot initiative last year. It failed as the supporters didn't get enough signatures to put it on the ballot. Leaving them at gun shops in the hopes their employees will advocate for it and obtain your needed signatures is weak. You need a dedicated group of people from all over the state to collect signatures. That does mean standing in front of places and talking to people, not leaving a clipboard on a counter and hoping people will read it.

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Originally Posted by OneGuy67

There was a weak attempt at a ballot initiative last year. It failed as the supporters didn't get enough signatures to put it on the ballot. Leaving them at gun shops in the hopes their employees will advocate for it and obtain your needed signatures is weak. You need a dedicated group of people from all over the state to collect signatures. That does mean standing in front of places and talking to people, not leaving a clipboard on a counter and hoping people will read it.

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I didn't even hear about it last time around, until it was too late.

What all would we want on our ballot initiative?

Obviously the mag thing...

There was a sign on Lincoln about 2 miles east of I25 that said something along the lines of "Help repeal the Mag ban" but not much else to let you know what it was for. I remember going to the website and not being able to do anything with it. Really wanted to get involved with it but the organization didn't prove to be too promising. We need to get all those recall people involved with this one. I know I would do something to help if there was something promising in the works. Doesn't the NRA have some organization skill/powers they can lend a hand with?