Sam's Club Finally Getting to me

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Originally Posted by Madeinhb

Federal law supersedes costco agreement. Sorry.

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Federal law? Please ... do tell me more. Like what Federal law you believe applies. [facepalm]

Please lets have another whiny ass complaint about something. Bunch of pussy ass biddies on this site.

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Originally Posted by james_bond_007

Typically search cannot take place without a warrant or an arrest, both also requiring probably cause of some sort, or permission of the search-ee.
Yet Sam's continues to search without any of these.

Yes, I understand that laws in this area vary from state to state and the 4th Amendment "Illegal Search and Seizure" applies.

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Search and Seizure- as it applies with 4th Amendment concerns, does not apply to actions conducted by private citizens and companies- only the government (Federal, State, and Local) and it's agents (IE: police). Read through your terms and conditions for your membership and you might see some legal language that you submit to this kind of check as a part of being a member. It's akin to Colorado Expressed Consent with your driver's license- you attain a DL, you consent to chemical tests to prove you are safe to operate that vehicle on state/federal/county/city roads or you lose your privileges.

To put it very simply, if I, a common citizen, not employed or an agent of a law enforcement agency were to search your stuff without permission, I wouldn't be violating your 4th Amendment rights because I am not the government. Easy enough?

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Originally Posted by Ronin13

Search and Seizure- as it applies with 4th Amendment concerns, does not apply to actions conducted by private citizens and companies- only the government (Federal, State, and Local) and it's agents (IE: police). Read through your terms and conditions for your membership and you might see some legal language that you submit to this kind of check as a part of being a member. It's akin to Colorado Expressed Consent with your driver's license- you attain a DL, you consent to chemical tests to prove you are safe to operate that vehicle on state/federal/county/city roads or you lose your privileges.

To put it very simply, if I, a common citizen, not employed or an agent of a law enforcement agency were to search your stuff without permission, I wouldn't be violating your 4th Amendment rights because I am not the government. Easy enough?

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That is correct.

Costco may have a right to "ask" for my receipt as I'm leaving, but I have the right to say no. Nothing Costco or SAMs Club can do legally besides revoke my membership. But guess what- they won't do that.

Costcos rules state the the receipt check is to verify you are charged right. Those receipt checkers have no idea.

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Originally Posted by Mtn.man

Please lets have another whiny ass complaint about something. Bunch of pussy ass biddies on this site.

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We're also seeing how some folks treat agreements they signed...they SIGNED it and still want to violate the agreement they signed. Be careful doing business with them.

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Originally Posted by roberth

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We're also seeing how some folks treat agreements they signed...they SIGNED it and still want to violate the agreement they signed. Be careful doing business with them.

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A judge can not enforce that policy in an agreement. Again what is the policy of receipt checking - in the agreement it is to validate you were charged correctly. So if they have the right to check receipts, I can then ask them if everything was charged correctly and to confirm it for me by looking in a computer.

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Originally Posted by spqrzilla

Federal law? Please ... do tell me more. Like what Federal law you believe applies. [facepalm]

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Its the federal one!

Id also be interested in knowing

Smile and say no thank you, proceed out. I do it at walmart all the time. A lowes manager got a cart in the calf for blocking me once.

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Originally Posted by funkymonkey1111

Its the federal one!

Id also be interested in knowing

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I miss spoke when I typed it. Sitting here at my house discussing a federal law with a friend and I typed it. Probably shouldn't try to have 2 conversations at once :)