Sam's Club Finally Getting to me

[spqrzilla]

Federal law supersedes costco agreement. Sorry.

Federal law? Please ... do tell me more. Like what Federal law you believe applies.

[Mtn.man]

Please lets have another whiny ass complaint about something. Bunch of pussy ass biddies on this site.

[Ronin13]

Typically search cannot take place without a warrant or an arrest, both also requiring probably cause of some sort, or permission of the search-ee.
Yet Sam's continues to search without any of these.

Yes, I understand that laws in this area vary from state to state and the 4th Amendment "Illegal Search and Seizure" applies.

Search and Seizure- as it applies with 4th Amendment concerns, does not apply to actions conducted by private citizens and companies- only the government (Federal, State, and Local) and it's agents (IE: police). Read through your terms and conditions for your membership and you might see some legal language that you submit to this kind of check as a part of being a member. It's akin to Colorado Expressed Consent with your driver's license- you attain a DL, you consent to chemical tests to prove you are safe to operate that vehicle on state/federal/county/city roads or you lose your privileges.

To put it very simply, if I, a common citizen, not employed or an agent of a law enforcement agency were to search your stuff without permission, I wouldn't be violating your 4th Amendment rights because I am not the government. Easy enough?

[Madeinhb]

Search and Seizure- as it applies with 4th Amendment concerns, does not apply to actions conducted by private citizens and companies- only the government (Federal, State, and Local) and it's agents (IE: police). Read through your terms and conditions for your membership and you might see some legal language that you submit to this kind of check as a part of being a member. It's akin to Colorado Expressed Consent with your driver's license- you attain a DL, you consent to chemical tests to prove you are safe to operate that vehicle on state/federal/county/city roads or you lose your privileges.

To put it very simply, if I, a common citizen, not employed or an agent of a law enforcement agency were to search your stuff without permission, I wouldn't be violating your 4th Amendment rights because I am not the government. Easy enough?

That is correct.

Costco may have a right to "ask" for my receipt as I'm leaving, but I have the right to say no. Nothing Costco or SAMs Club can do legally besides revoke my membership. But guess what- they won't do that.

[Madeinhb]

Costcos rules state the the receipt check is to verify you are charged right. Those receipt checkers have no idea.

[roberth]

Please lets have another whiny ass complaint about something. Bunch of pussy ass biddies on this site.

We're also seeing how some folks treat agreements they signed...they SIGNED it and still want to violate the agreement they signed. Be careful doing business with them.

[Madeinhb]

We're also seeing how some folks treat agreements they signed...they SIGNED it and still want to violate the agreement they signed. Be careful doing business with them.

A judge can not enforce that policy in an agreement. Again what is the policy of receipt checking - in the agreement it is to validate you were charged correctly. So if they have the right to check receipts, I can then ask them if everything was charged correctly and to confirm it for me by looking in a computer.

[funkymonkey1111]

Federal law? Please ... do tell me more. Like what Federal law you believe applies.

Its the federal one!

Id also be interested in knowing

[Wulf202]

Smile and say no thank you, proceed out. I do it at walmart all the time. A lowes manager got a cart in the calf for blocking me once.

[Madeinhb]

Its the federal one!

Id also be interested in knowing

I miss spoke when I typed it. Sitting here at my house discussing a federal law with a friend and I typed it. Probably shouldn't try to have 2 conversations at once