The Official POTUS Candidate Discussion Thread: 2016

Carl,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Breathe calmmmmmm, he doesn't consider that it is all about the $$$$$ and not about the principle or the purpose. we will all be dead dead dead before anything changes in America, but maybe America will fall before that as well.

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Originally Posted by Bailey Guns

You like Johnson? Vote for him. Knock yourself out. You can rail against Romney and those that voted for him all you want. Most of us understand he did what the people in his STATE wanted. That doesn't mean he would do the same as president. But if that makes you feel better about voting for someone who's going to get a WHOPPING 1% of the vote, good for you. And what, exactly, will Johnson accomplish with a democrat and/or republican congress?

The libertarian party is going nowhere in any significant way in the lifetimes of most everyone on this forum because the majority of people don't like the libertarian ideology. You might as well get used to it.

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Hmmm.. One guy went against the grain/public opinion and successfully opened up ccw to their state while the other trampled on the 2nd amendment.. But yeah, we all know that one guy wouldn't do that as president right? Lol... Keep living the dream..

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Originally Posted by Mtn.man

1. Gov. Scott Walker – a favorite right now
2. Sen. Ted Cruz – as a senator, his chances decrease. Love the guy, perhaps a VP?
3. Gov. Rick Perry – we’ll have to see if he runs a better campaign this time
4. Sen. Rick Santorum – longshot. Establishment GOP still mad he stuck in the race against Romney so long. Would need early money and early wins.
5. Gov. Susana Martinez
6. Gov. Mike Pence would be a strong candidate
7. Gov. John Kasich would be a good president, but perhaps not a great candidate.
8. Rep. Trey Gowdy would be awesome. The GOP seems to have assigned him, however, to the role of Hillary smasher this time around.
9. Sen. Marco Rubio could be a good candidate, but another senator and they usually don’t get far.
10. Gov. Sarah Palin would be a good leader, not sure she wants to go through all of this again. She should announce early that she is not running to get rid of any rumors and release money that would have gone to her so it can help others.
11. Rep. Paul Ryannot running. A good choice.
12. Gov. Bobby Jindal should stay in the mix for now
13. Gov. Nikki Haley could be a good candidate.
14. Gov. Jeb Bush – This is the Karl Rove-Bush wing of the party that wants to join with democrats to destroy the Tea Party Conservatives. The last thing we need is another Bush… or another Clinton! He should drop out.
15. Sen. Rand Paul – His candidacy will not succeed. He says some things right and other things make it sound like he is an alien. He could leave now.
16. Dr. Benjamin Carson – This one will make some of my conservative pals mad. However, a big beef with Obama was that he had no experience doing anything. While Carson has plenty of brilliant medical experience, he has no experience in governing. We have seen the things that can go wrong with an inexperienced candidate and I’m just not sure the time is now for Dr. Carson. A good VP perhaps. He could announce he is willing to be the VP for a strong Conservative American candidate.
17. Sen. Kelly Ayotte – Probably not much chance. Not sure she needs to make an announcement.
18. Gov. Mary Fallin – A female Governor to challenge Hillary. From a strong Conservative state. It would be okay for her to run.
19. Gov. Mitt Romney not running. Thank you!
20. Gov. Sam Brownback
21. Rep. Peter King
22. Rep. J.C. Watts won’t be running, a good VP choice?
23. Lt. Col. & Rep. Allen West won’t be running, a good VP choice?
24. Donald Trump – he should skip the whole thing where he wastes our time pretending he might run if no one better shows up. He could stay out this time.
25. Gov Bob McDonnel may wish to run. Would likely not get far.
26. Gov Jan Brewer may have some ambition, but likely will not get far.
27. Sen Tim Scott – another senator with the stats against him.
28. Sen John Thune – (see Tim Scott)
29. Rep. Michele Bachmann won’t run and doesn’t want her husband trashed again by the lamestream press.
30. Rep. Newt Gingrich Please God, have Newt stay out of the race.
31. Gov. Mike Huckabee He wants it so bad. No one wants a guitar playing pretend-conservative. He should have kept his show on Fox. Also his health can’t be good with all of the weight he has put on. He should leave now.
32. Gov. Chris Christie is a democrat in the eyes of Conservative Americans. He would be John McCain with a foul mouth. He will run. He should not run. We won’t win if Christie gets the nom

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Hasn't Carson put out anti gun/2nd amendment statements? I think that is an important issue to add to the list.

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Originally Posted by def90

Hmmm.. One guy went against the grain/public opinion and successfully opened up ccw to their state while the other trampled on the 2nd amendment.. But yeah, we all know that one guy wouldn't do that as president right? Lol... Keep living the dream..

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The truth of the matter is you, nor I, nor anyone else has a fickin' clue what Romney WOULD'VE done as president. Your speculation means nothing...except to you and those that hold your opinion. Where did gun control, at the federal level, get since Obama was elected? How many federal gun control laws were put in place under Obama even with a democrat house and senate for the first two years of his presidency? And you actually think a republican with a republican controlled congress is going to pass further gun control laws? And I'm the one "dreaming"? Whatever you say... BTW: that's not a defense of Obama and I know if he had his way there would be plenty of additional restrictions on guns. But there's only so much a president can do.

So I'll take my chances and "dream" a republican like Scott Walker (or some other conservative republican) will be elected president. You can dream about Johnson or some other libertarian/unicorn president. We'll have to wait and see which dream is more likely to come true. But when the libertarian loses, again (with only 1% or 2% of the vote), you can blame it on people like me who refuse to buy into their misguided philosophy.

And don't forget...Johnson was elected governor of NM as a republican.

It really comes down to a giant douche or a turd sandwich.

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Originally Posted by TFOGGER

I get it. And I have had to hold my nose in the voting booth on more than one occasion, to prevent the greater evil from advancing. That doesn't mean I have to like it, nor does that mean that seeking alternatives is a vain pursuit. Voting for the lesser of two evils is STILL voting for evil. Can you honestly say that a vote for a Republican candidate is a vote for the greater good of the Republic?

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Originally Posted by TFOGGER

I get it. And I have had to hold my nose in the voting booth on more than one occasion, to prevent the greater evil from advancing. That doesn't mean I have to like it, nor does that mean that seeking alternatives is a vain pursuit. Voting for the lesser of two evils is STILL voting for evil. Can you honestly say that a vote for a Republican candidate is a vote for the greater good of the Republic?

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In the first place, I don't buy this "lesser of evils" arguments. I think that's a handy little platitude that gets thrown around way too often. The ISIS scumbags that burned the pilot are evil. I don't think Romney is evil. At all. Do you really think of Romney as evil? I think he was probably the most decent man to run for president in a long time...probably in my lifetime. Maybe we have a different definition of evil.

And, yes, I can honestly say that a vote for Romney was a vote for the greater good of our Republic. At least in my opinion. Do you not think we'd be not just a little, but far better off under a Romney presidency than another Obama presidency?

Wow...

Yeah, but not as good as a Ron Paul presidency.

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Originally Posted by Bailey Guns

In the first place, I don't buy this "lesser of evils" arguments. I think that's a handy little platitude that gets thrown around way too often. The ISIS scumbags that burned the pilot are evil. I don't think Romney is evil. At all. Do you really think of Romney as evil? I think he was probably the most decent man to run for president in a long time...probably in my lifetime. Maybe we have a different definition of evil.

And, yes, I can honestly say that a vote for Romney was a vote for the greater good of our Republic. At least in my opinion. Do you not think we'd be not just a little, but far better off under a Romney presidency than another Obama presidency?

Wow...

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I think Romney would have done less harm than Obozo. Probably. That's why I held my nose and voted for that schmuck. But that doesn't mean he was my preferred candidate. It simply meant that he was the least objectionable candidate that had a chance to win, in my opinion.

Regardless, this thread is not about the previous candidates, it's about trying to get the best possible candidate nominated that has the best chance of actually being elected, which means everyone is going to have to compromise some, or EVERYONE is going to lose.