Fire at the South Site.

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Originally Posted by Dave_L

Very valid point. We're all lumped in together. Ive just seen posts about camping areas being trashed more lately too. Its not just shooters, its people. They don't care about anything other than themselves now. But its all moot when this stuff happens. That range wont be around for much longer, I think.

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I agree.

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Originally Posted by hollohas

I grew up shooting out there and still frequent it. My in-laws live downrange from the main "berm". It's hard for me to say this, because I think we are losing too much public shooting land, but the place is out of control. Perhaps it should be closed to shooting during high fire danger times.

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I hate to see reductions in public shooting land too, primarily because I hate to give anything to the leftist anti-gunners, but if irresponsible people are endangering responsible people ...

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Originally Posted by hurley842002

After hauling out cases of empty beer cans, and shot out big screen tv's, I've resolved to the fact that the gun community isn't full of upstanding citizens any longer.

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To be honest, the gun community like any other community (except maybe the Occupy Movement) is diverse and has a wide variety of people so it has never been FULL of upstanding citizens. I've seen plenty of irresponsible shooters (or at least the by-products of their actions like shot-up road signs) over the years. Most gun owners are responsible but there have always been a number of irresponsible Joe Six-Packs (literally ... I didn't know many guys who went pig hunting when I was growing up in Hawaii but those that I did know would be sure to take along plenty of beer and I'm reasonably certain they mixed their drinking and shooting).

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Originally Posted by mtnrider

The trash does disgust me and I always take out more then I bring. Don't understand why people can't pick up after themselves?

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Originally Posted by Dave_L

Very valid point. We're all lumped in together. Ive just seen posts about camping areas being trashed more lately too. Its not just shooters, its people. They don't care about anything other than themselves now. But its all moot when this stuff happens. That range wont be around for much longer, I think.

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This. Modern society has encouraged tons of people to think only of themselves (which is rather ironic given the collectivist bent of so much modern politics).

The other bad part of shutting down public shooting areas is that it just moves people to a new area to trash.

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Originally Posted by Dave_L

It has been determined that the Turkey Track 7 Fire was ignited by human activities, the specific cause and circumstances are under investigation. This is the seventh fire ignited in the target shooting area along Forest Road #343 during the past two months.

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And we know for 100% certain that it was target shooters that caused the fires? And not antis or treehuggers trying to get the range shut down? I have a friend with a cabin about half way between Woodland Park and the range and I wouldn't put it past his commie fiance to go up there and set fires herself because she bitches about the shooters ruining "her" peace and quiet up there (because like most libtards, the world exists only for HER pleasure).

I was shooting at Lead Valley a couple of months ago and a fire started on the back side of the berm next to me. Luckily the guys that run the range got a handle on it before it got out of hand. Not sure how it started. Especially on the back of the berm. Nobody was shooting any tracer or dragon's breath. Couple of people were shooting steel. Bullets do weird stuff. Of course sometimes people do weird stuff as well.

Last time I was at an unmonitored range a kid put a little bottle of tanerite in a pumpkin and bounced pumpkin shrapnel off everyone's cars and trucks. Dented a couple.

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Originally Posted by Zundfolge

And we know for 100% certain that it was target shooters that caused the fires? And not antis or treehuggers trying to get the range shut down? I have a friend with a cabin about half way between Woodland Park and the range and I wouldn't put it past his commie fiance to go up there and set fires herself because she bitches about the shooters ruining "her" peace and quiet up there (because like most libtards, the world exists only for HER pleasure).

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People talk about this on here every now and then, but has this ever been the case?