Well said. Just like someone at a gun show in AZ willing to look the other way on a transaction doesn't make all dealers at gun shows shady.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeusExMachina
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Well said. Just like someone at a gun show in AZ willing to look the other way on a transaction doesn't make all dealers at gun shows shady.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeusExMachina
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Rewatch the clip if you must.
If this nurse want to help the girls, she would have not referred them to another location where which required no audits. If her intention to 'trap' this pimp to save the girls, she would get as much information as she could as most public/social workers are trained to do instead of giving tips and passing out 'paper works' for them to come back at their choice of time or not. I am so glad this was all under pretense.
These girls would be the VICTIM not the criminals. Your metaphor of bank robbers cannot be more flaw.
Big kudoes to the other nurses/managers who turn down 'the pimp' and reported them to the management which eventually resulted in FBI report. My question still stands. How could you defend THAT nurse and try to justify it as she is trying to help the girls. She is helping the pimp, thats for sure.
This managing nurse does/did represent the whole organization for that particular location.
Actually social workers are trained to do their job first, not act as police. For example, the girl I am dating once met a family on a street corner to provide counseling with their child. They did not want her to come to her house for whatever reason you can imagine. She met them on the street corner and did her job, and reported the incident to her boss. She wasn't going to interrogate them or try and "trick" them into telling her why she wasn't allowed at their house. Its not her job.Quote:
Originally Posted by MB888
And your definition of helping these (made up) girls is different than a social worker's. Underage prostitute has an STD. Mission: cure the STD. Not rescue them from their situation. Its not her job. She doesn't have a hero complex. She will do what she can to provide as much help as she is able to provide.
Why do you think getting the prostitutes medical care and safe-sex supplies is "helping the pimp"? I think that is helping the girls.
I think you are trying too hard. All social workers in CO and I presume in most US are trained to be very observant and most of them have more attention to detail than average. In cases such as this, they are trained to get as much info as they could in order to help/rescue the victims - Not encouraging, not leading them to a different location, and so on.
Again, I dont see any relation of this worker with your g/f's experience. And again, rewatch the clip, she WARNED the pimp once he mentioned they are underage that 'we are obligated to report' then she proceed to show them how not to get reported and so on. She even repeatedly stressed 14 and under option...
I know I am being biased on this because of my belief, but I am quite sure that this is not even a debate to you. When you can be more objective instead of stonewalling, I'd more than happy to chat you up.
Exact topic of this thread aside, as far as I'm concerned "Planned Parenthood" is simply another avenue for Liberals to achieve their agenda. The fact that children under the age of 18 can't get squat done at a hospital without parental consent BUT they can go get a damn abortion without it tells me that it's more about the libtards achieving power and control than anything else. It takes two to start that condition, it ought to take two to end it. The whole woman's right to choose thing is garbage; either or both parties could damn well choose to use protection. It's simply the lack of personal responsibility evident in everything else, except it happens to have a direct effect on another in this case.
Flame me all you want, I won't change my opinion.
I read Freakonomics and I agree.
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Originally Posted by Troublco
I think you are being biased and are not being objective. You are making the assumption that Planned Parenthood is an accomplice in underage prostitution, which is not the case at all. I'm saying it has nothing to do with underage prostitution. All it has to do with is getting people assistance and does not care the circumstances, nor should it.Quote:
Originally Posted by MB888
The woman in the video could have said those couple things for any number of reasons. They are not policies and are infact AGAINST policy, as she had stated. Maybe she knew it was fake, maybe she was trying to get them to trust her so she could help those that need it, maybe she was setting up a sting operation. Maybe she's batshit crazy. Who the fuck knows. Its a sensationalist propaganda video with very obvious editing to sway appearances. She was also fired for what she said.
Yes, I admitted that. That's why I dont attack Planned parenthood, they all can rot in hell for all I care. Facts, the manager was fired and was clearly at fault. Facts, she did say all of those things. You keep changing it back that its all about attack on Planned Parenthood, well doh! I have not once gone against it in this conversation. I am questioning this lady,while you have come up with 3 different inconsistent things to defend her only to come back to planned parenthood again. Arguing facts with maybes is pointless.
Since firearms seem to be the only thing that we may have in common. Would you defend a gun store clerk who was clearly trapped in 'gotcha' interview in which he/she points out supposedly a loophole and how to obtain gun illegally? I surely hope not.
I am just at aw that some can justify defending what she said. Just wow.
Having watched the video. There is no defending what still transpired. There were plenty of opportunities to realize that there was something not entirely legal going on and that the "pimp" was wanting to keep things on the "down low".