Opinions on UFOs?

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Originally Posted by mevshooter

If you want people's opinions, you're going to get them. Whether you get them in the way you desired to get them or not, ask and you shall receive.

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Originally Posted by SAnd

I apologize for the smart ass response. I get kinda touchy about language. I have had some bad experiences with people asking inexact questions and then jumping me when I answer the the 'wrong' way. It's the old 'Have you quit beating your dog?' thing. If we had been face to face I would have asked for clarification of the terms to start the discussion.

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No worries, I'm not trying to be argumentative guys. I was trying to keep it light but I realize how the questions can seem kind of silly.

I didn't vote because there was no option that read "Of course".

Also didn't read any of the other comments and don't know if it was mentioned yet or not but here goes:

UFOs, (Unidentified Flying Objects) do exist and it would be foolish to think otherwise..... anything from a football to a plane can be a ufo depending on circumstances. If something wasn't clearly observed, perhaps light refraction, weather, or whatever did not allow for positive identification of something passing through the air.... then it can fall into the "ufo" category. Now if the discussion is "Do extra-terrestrials and ET flying crafts exist?" then you have a pondering question.[Coffee]

My opinion: Sure, though I have not seen or experienced anything to fully support that. Only logical thought suggesting that if we, (humans) exist, it should be quite possible other capable creatures could exist and perhaps they have the technology to travel to other worlds such as our own.

If I were to see something I felt was an alien craft, can't clearly say how I'd react other than excersize extreme caution and stay out of its way/sight if possible. Not entirely interested in finding out first hand if whatever is piloting said craft is friendly or not, but if its not acting hostile toward me, I'm simply vacating the area.


Badger

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Originally Posted by SA Friday

You have to realize that the Milky Way galaxy is pretty remote in comparison to the rest of the known universe. Traveling to Earth by any other species would be quite a road-trip, and for what? WTF would another intelligent species want to discuss with us? "Hey, we know you guys can't agree with each other within your own countries much less the planet, but we travelled at infinite expense to just come say hi..." Uh huh.

The only reason another species would come here is for resource plundering and there are plenty of other planets they can go to for that without the long road trip. Hell, there's at least one other planet and another entire moon made of water within out own solar system. I doubt there is anything so rare on our planet that they would have to out this far to find and mine it.

Then there's the "intel gathering" theory. Once again, this would be a huge energy cost to simply check us out. A basic parameter on the edge of our galaxy would be a more cost effect method.

How about the "study" theory. Ya, maybe, but for a species that has the ability to travel light years of space, this would be like staring at an ant farm. Just don't see it.

So, long explanation short, no UFO's. Not intentionally at least. The only way I can see this happening is an accidental crash.

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Hmmm...remote you say? We keep our cattle and pig farms relatively remote. Why wouldn't aliens keep their favorite tasty animal in remote locations? As soon as the farm population gets dense enough, its time to harvest.

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Originally Posted by SA Friday

You have to realize that the Milky Way galaxy is pretty remote in comparison to the rest of the known universe. Traveling to Earth by any other species would be quite a road-trip, and for what? WTF would another intelligent species want to discuss with us? "Hey, we know you guys can't agree with each other within your own countries much less the planet, but we travelled at infinite expense to just come say hi..." Uh huh.

The only reason another species would come here is for resource plundering and there are plenty of other planets they can go to for that without the long road trip. Hell, there's at least one other planet and another entire moon made of water within out own solar system. I doubt there is anything so rare on our planet that they would have to out this far to find and mine it.

Then there's the "intel gathering" theory. Once again, this would be a huge energy cost to simply check us out. A basic parameter on the edge of our galaxy would be a more cost effect method.

How about the "study" theory. Ya, maybe, but for a species that has the ability to travel light years of space, this would be like staring at an ant farm. Just don't see it.

So, long explanation short, no UFO's. Not intentionally at least. The only way I can see this happening is an accidental crash.

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Couldn't you apply all of this to just about every old world explorer? "Hey Columbus, don't bother risking your life trying to cross the unknown, we can just go invade France."

I've seen weird stuff in the sky, and so has half the folks I know. It was no sort of aircraft or meteor or the usual stuff. I do not know what it was. I do think it's pretty stupid to assume that something weird you see in the sky has to be from another planet though.

i believe in illegal aliens in the office of the president...does that count for anything? Wait, so that would mean his vp is a ufo cuz it always has garbage coming out of it...?

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Originally Posted by Irving

Couldn't you apply all of this to just about every old world explorer? "Hey Columbus, don't bother risking your life trying to cross the unknown, we can just go invade France."

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No, not at all. Columbus was attempting to establish a more direct and controllable trade route with south east asia for the financial gain of Spain. There was both a monetary and resource benefit from it. The cost was relatively inexpensive for Spain too.

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Originally Posted by bogie

I get the whole argument of traveling over vast distances between neighboring stars. There are some enormous technological hurdles for us to get a man just across the solar system. But we've only been flying for like ~100 years. Human civilization is what, 8000 or so years old? So in just over 1% of the time we've been "advancing" we have driven the technology to put man into space. I just don't think we have a grasp of what is possible in say another 8000 years. As long as we don't blow ourselves up...

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technology has a funny way of reaching a plateau. its happened all across time for various reasons. also, its not so much we know how to do it and just need the fuel or energy or composite to get there. it defies physics as we know them, which don't get me wrong, theories of physics and chemistry are proved wrong all the time, but to make that leap is more difficult.

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Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy

I don't know of the authenticity of this video. I wonder if the saucer crashed or was shot down? It is my understanding that the saucer in Roswell was shot down as it was near the US only nuclear bomb wing. I just hope we don't kill some high ranking ET's and then get our asses stomped...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXQnMcofVGc

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thats fake as hell. not directing any animosity, just saying its fake as hell.

I had an Uncle that worked at Area 51. He recently (couple years ago) died on the base. Don't know what the hell he did in the Air Force. I know he once was going to retire and they gave him money to stay. He told my cousin once that people like him don't get to retire. Well he was set to retire and came up dead...yea we all think its weird. No secret that he worked at the base..people from the base stayed with my cousin for a couple weeks after he died just to make sure they were ok. Told them that he was part of a very tight knit family and thats why they stayed with her like that. She nick named them spy one and spy two.

Who ever and whatever my uncle did I have no clue, but I know he knew experimental aircraft. Only reason I know this is because he told me that when he retired from the Air Force his friend had a job waiting for him in that field.

Now how it relates to this post. Once at his house my little brother pestered him the entire time about,"Are there Aliens". After a few days he told my little brother to shut the fuck up!! There's no such thing as aliens!!! That's words from the highest security clearance guy I'll ever know. Now maybe his was just getting pissed...maybe it was hitting a nerve because little brother was getting warm. The world may never know...but that's the only time I ever seen my uncle get mad or use language like that towards a kid. He was normally a very easy going kind of quiet guy.