It has begun . . .

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Originally Posted by SuperiorDG

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/...azines-part-1/

According to Jefferson County Sheriff’s office sources, Mr. Haddad was in the parking lot of a closed business at 7:30 p.m. when an officer asked him what he was doing. The police allege that the Fort Drum civilian employee said that he was meeting someone to sell the AR-15 style rifle magazines. A police source also said that the magazines were stamped with the words “Restricted. For military use only.”
For the possession of the magazines, Mr. Haddad was arrested, booked in county jail and charged with five counts of criminal possession of a weapon in the third degree, according to the arrest report. Mr. Haddad did not have his AR-15 rifle in the car, but it is unclear whether he had another firearm. Police say that he was in possession of a New York State carry permit. He was not charged with any other offenses.
These charges are considered “violent class D violent felony offenses” under New York state law and carry a punishment that ranges widely from conditional discharge to seven years in state prison. (The five charges would be served concurrently.)

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Wow..I just dont know what to say. Guess well just have to see how far we can be pushed before it gets violent..

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Originally Posted by lowbeyond

well you see i am told to never blame the cops , blame the politicians or the cops' boss.

and really, dont want to go to jail ? then don't break the law. and the law is just a reflection of the will of society uh-huh.

so what is the issue again ? these cops were just doing their jobs by enforcing the LAW !

Right ?

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So if they made it illegal to own 30-round magazines in CO (no grandfather clause) you'd just throw yours away? What if they made "assault weapons" illegal- you'd turn yours in? I mean, if it was the law... [facepalm]

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Originally Posted by Fmedges

It wouldn't matter, your car is still your property. Like I said, my school backpack can't be searched for no reason and that has nothing to do with homes.

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You should learn the definition of Exigent Circumstances...

The police can, and will, search your shit anytime they want for whatever reason they want.. SCOTUS has fucked over the 4th.. it is utterly meaningless, in the legal sense, now.

Don't blame the cops for enforcing unconstitoutional laws either I mean that oath they took to defend such document is just for show right? Maybe you can blame me for it? I mean they are just doing their job right? Gas the Jews? Sure no problem I mean they were just doing their job right?

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Originally Posted by asmotao

You should learn the definition of Exigent Circumstances...

The police can, and will, search your shit anytime they want for whatever reason they want.. SCOTUS has fucked over the 4th.. it is utterly meaningless, in the legal sense, now.

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Explain

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Originally Posted by Fmedges

Don't blame the cops for enforcing unconstitoutional laws either I mean that oath they took to defend such document is just for show right? Maybe you can blame me for it? I mean they are just doing their job right? Gas the Jews? Sure no problem I mean they were just doing their job right?

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I'm sorry to say this, but I haven't trusted the police nor assumed they had any interest in protecting my individual rights in a long long time.

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Originally Posted by Ronin13

So if they made it illegal to own 30-round magazines in CO (no grandfather clause) you'd just throw yours away? What if they made "assault weapons" illegal- you'd turn yours in? I mean, if it was the law... [facepalm]

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That's I'm going to say I did if that scenario ever happens.

You know this same argument keeps coming up, "cops are just enforcing the law". What a bunch of shit, what makes them any different than any of us when it comes to how we feel about company policy. If I hate my Job, don't agree with what’s going on, and can't help change it, I'm gone. If you’re going to stay in any organization that you don't agree with, then you deserve what you get. If we all continue to be sheep and do the status quo, where all fucked, and unfortunately for police in this political environment it could be deadly. Agree or disagree, it is what it is.

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Originally Posted by Fmedges

Don't blame the cops for enforcing unconstitoutional laws either I mean that oath they took to defend such document is just for show right? Maybe you can blame me for it? I mean they are just doing their job right? Gas the Jews? Sure no problem I mean they were just doing their job right?

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Yep! I believe at Nuremberg they decided that the "I was just following orders" excuse for doing something wrong/illegal doesn't work... Lotta Nazis got some pretty hefty sentences (including death) just because they were "doing their job..." Just saying... You're either doing the right thing, or you're not.

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Originally Posted by Fmedges

Don't blame the cops for enforcing unconstitoutional laws either I mean that oath they took to defend such document is just for show right? Maybe you can blame me for it? I mean they are just doing their job right? Gas the Jews? Sure no problem I mean they were just doing their job right?

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yea well they were just following the LAW right ? so what's the biggie ? don't be a hater, they gotta feed their family too ya know