Close
Results 1 to 10 of 50

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    A FUN TITLE asmo's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Douglas County (Parker)
    Posts
    3,446

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Fmedges View Post
    It wouldn't matter, your car is still your property. Like I said, my school backpack can't be searched for no reason and that has nothing to do with homes.
    You should learn the definition of Exigent Circumstances...

    The police can, and will, search your shit anytime they want for whatever reason they want.. SCOTUS has fucked over the 4th.. it is utterly meaningless, in the legal sense, now.
    What is my joy if all hands, even the unclean, can reach into it? What is my wisdom, if even the fools can dictate to me? What is my freedom, if all creatures, even the botched and impotent, are my masters? What is my life, if I am but to bow, to agree and to obey?
    -- Ayn Rand, Anthem (Chapter 11)

  2. #2
    Machine Gunner Fmedges's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts
    1,062

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by asmotao View Post
    You should learn the definition of Exigent Circumstances...

    The police can, and will, search your shit anytime they want for whatever reason they want.. SCOTUS has fucked over the 4th.. it is utterly meaningless, in the legal sense, now.
    Explain

    USMC 2000-2004, OIF

  3. #3
    A FUN TITLE asmo's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Douglas County (Parker)
    Posts
    3,446

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Fmedges View Post
    Explain
    I'll leave it to you to do some research.. But start with United States v. Rengifo where the courts said that “[e]xigent circumstances occur when a reasonable officer could believe that to delay acting to obtain a warrant would, in all likelihood, permanently frustrate an important police objective, such as to prevent the destruction of evidence relating to criminal activity or to secure an arrest before a suspect can commit further serious harm"

    More fun: Kentucky v. King, SCOTUS has said that police are allowed to create exigent circumstances with impunity and that the results of such searches are admissible. Thats right - the police themselves can cause the problem that needs to be resolved immediately to preserve evidence or secure an arrest...

    Here is an over the top example (that comes straight out of the real world):

    If the cops want to see whats in your backpack, they could for example, light it on fire. They would have just created an exigent circumstance in which they can search your backpack 'to preserve evidence'. Its totally legal.
    Last edited by asmo; 02-01-2013 at 17:05.
    What is my joy if all hands, even the unclean, can reach into it? What is my wisdom, if even the fools can dictate to me? What is my freedom, if all creatures, even the botched and impotent, are my masters? What is my life, if I am but to bow, to agree and to obey?
    -- Ayn Rand, Anthem (Chapter 11)

  4. #4
    I'm a dude, I swear! SuperiorDG's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    CCC / Golden
    Posts
    3,070

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by asmotao View Post
    I'll leave it to you to do some research.. But start with United States v. Rengifo where the courts said that “[e]xigent circumstances occur when a reasonable officer could believe that to delay acting to obtain a warrant would, in all likelihood, permanently frustrate an important police objective, such as to prevent the destruction of evidence relating to criminal activity or to secure an arrest before a suspect can commit further serious harm"

    More fun: Kentucky v. King, SCOTUS has said that police are allowed to create exigent circumstances with impunity and that the results of such searches are admissible. Thats right - the police themselves can cause the problem that needs to be resolved immediately to preserve evidence or secure an arrest...

    Here is an over the top example (that comes straight out of the real world):

    If the cops want to see whats in your backpack, they could for example, light it on fire. They would have just created an exigent circumstance in which they can search your backpack 'to preserve evidence'. Its totally legal.
    Is lighting someone's backpack on fire arson?

  5. #5
    A FUN TITLE asmo's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Douglas County (Parker)
    Posts
    3,446

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by SuperiorDG View Post
    Is lighting someone's backpack on fire arson?
    Heheh.. I see where your going with this.

    But no.. Its not an occupied building or structure.
    Last edited by asmo; 02-01-2013 at 17:08.
    What is my joy if all hands, even the unclean, can reach into it? What is my wisdom, if even the fools can dictate to me? What is my freedom, if all creatures, even the botched and impotent, are my masters? What is my life, if I am but to bow, to agree and to obey?
    -- Ayn Rand, Anthem (Chapter 11)

  6. #6
    Sig Fantastic Ronin13's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Arvada, CO
    Posts
    10,268

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by SuperiorDG View Post
    Is lighting someone's backpack on fire arson?
    Yeah- or assault. I don't think any cop would do that- unless they really wanted to see what life was like on the other side of the bars.
    "There is no news in the truth, and no truth in the news."
    "The revolution will not be televised... Instead it will be filmed from multiple angles via cell phone cameras, promptly uploaded to YouTube, Tweeted about, and then shared on Facebook, pending a Wi-Fi connection."

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •