Juan McCain

Obama also voted 94 x's to raise taxes...

we are truly in a delima with the candidates we have. However if McC, picks a great VP maybe he will expire in the first year or so and Bam we get something better...

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Originally Posted by ssf467

We have a 5 year plan to leave. Enjoy the train wreck which is America
As far as wasting a vote I think we all have and started this train down the wrong track.
And to whom ever tries to say I'm not a Patriot, go screw you and the horse you road in on. I am a disabled combat veteran. I served proudly and love this country, but my fears have come true. Marxism via Global warming is killing this Country and short of violence, it's just waiting for the fat lady(gravitational challenged female) to sing.
Montana is still an option, I'll wait to see what the Super Court says on the DC gun case.

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no offense but dont let the door hit you on the ass on your way out.

If we really want to save our country, and I mean REALLY want it, we need to do whatever is necessary to save it...at this point it hasnt reached that level, but I can see it reaching it in my life time. Just remember, today George Washington and the rest of the revolutionary army would be considered terrorists by our current government.

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Originally Posted by westy1970

Is it more of a waste to vote for McCain, knowing the media has served up the country to Obama and McCain will never win, or to vote for who you want? I would rather see a viable 3rd party that vote for either of the open border Communists that are running. A vote for McCain is a wasted vote the same as a vote for Obama is a wasted vote. They are both hell bent on destroying the country I love and served.

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So, in other words you don't care if it's Obama or McCain who wins in November. A third party candidate's chances are nil. It's noble to be idealistist but far better to be practical. Wake up and get your head out of the sand. You post on a gun forum but don't care enough about 2A to vote for the most gun friendly candidate but will throw your vote away in protest, smart.

I won't let the door hit me in the ass, enjoy the merge with Mexico and Canada.

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Originally Posted by Richard K

So, in other words you don't care if it's Obama or McCain who wins in November. A third party candidate's chances are nil. It's noble to be idealistist but far better to be practical. Wake up and get your head out of the sand. You post on a gun forum but don't care enough about 2A to vote for the most gun friendly candidate but will throw your vote away in protest, smart.

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Obama won the election when he decided to run for Senate. I saw that years ago and knew he was the next dictator. There are many other issues than the 2nd. If I were voting on a singular issue, I would vote for McCain. I am looking to the future and where the country is going to be in 10 years. A vote for McCain is a vote for open borders and fewer jobs in America. Go ahead and vote your one issue and sink us even further into Mexico. When we are part of the Mexican Union gun rights won't matter at all.

BTW, thanks to SSF for an engaging thread. I love these kind of discussions.

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Originally Posted by westy1970

Obama won the election when he decided to run for Senate. I saw that years ago and knew he was the next dictator. There are many other issues than the 2nd. If I were voting on a singular issue, I would vote for McCain. I am looking to the future and where the country is going to be in 10 years. A vote for McCain is a vote for open borders and fewer jobs in America. Go ahead and vote your one issue and sink us even further into Mexico. When we are part of the Mexican Union gun rights won't matter at all.

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It's far more than one issue. Did you happen to listen to his speech after winning enough electoral votes, wherein he pledged to gut our military and de-commison all of our arsenal of nukes, withdraw from South Korea and rely on diplomacy? Or establish a national healthcare system? Ask someone in England how well socialized medecine works. Until recently we owned a medical biliing service and you'd be amazed at the number of doctors who have pledged to quit the field of medicine should socialized medicine become a reality. Ask your doctor what he thinks of Medicare, chances are he won't accept Medicare patients.

And IF he does any of that he puts our Country at a severe risk. He will not have the support he needs to accomplish any of it, save banning guns and a weak attempt at health care which will fail in the end. I stand by my decision to vote on the side of liberty. I do not believe McCain stands a chance of winning. Everyone I know who is a Democrat was pulling for Clinton and they are now voting Obama. He was handed the Presidency a long time ago. So, if my vote is wasted no matter what, I would rather vote my beliefs rather than the lesser of 2 evils.