Just heard these matches are going on again, last night while shooting at a pin match. Will keep an eye out for the signup email on ecouspsa. [rockon]
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Just heard these matches are going on again, last night while shooting at a pin match. Will keep an eye out for the signup email on ecouspsa. [rockon]
Is there any issue with using green tip ammo or is that a no no? Don't want to ruin any steel targets!
Sorry but, bi-metal, steel-core or any other type of "penetrator" type ammunition is prohibited. These would ding and even punch through our steel targets.
Here is a copy of the match call email that we just sent out via the ECOUSPA Google Group:
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Shooters,
This coming Saturday, March 3, 2018 the Colorado Rifle Club will be hosting its first Action Rifle match of the year. As in the past, plan on arriving at the range at 7:00am to help with the setup. If we get a lot of help, we will call for a shooter’s meeting at 9:00am and begin shooting shortly after that. The match fee is still $20 ($15 if you help with the setup).
You will need approximately 135 to 150 rounds of ammunition but I suggest you bring 200 just to make sure you have enough for makeup shots, etc. Speaking of ammunition, remember that armor-piercing, incendiary and all type of “penetrator” type ammunition if strictly prohibited. That means no M855, steel-core, bi-metal or any similar type of ammo.
In the interest of safety, our new Match Director, Matthew H. has implemented a few changes to the format of this event. For example, the use of a chamber flag will be required! Please take a moment to read the attachments that accompany this email to learn about these changes and, if you have any questions that are not answered there, you can ask him directly at this email address: mhess.2011@gmail.com
You can register at the following link (the match fee will be collected on match day): https://practiscore.com/crc-action-r...-2018/register
See you all on Saturday morning!
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Ok thanks, wasn't sure if green tipped was steel or what it was. I don't have a empty chamber indicator. Is there something around the house or at a local store I could use as one until I get a real one?
Green tip not allowed. A brightly colored piece of paracord through the ejection port and out through the magwell will work in a pinch. You could make one out of plastic stock or even a wood dowel. Empty cases are not okay.Quote:
Originally Posted by kjeff91
I'll be bringing a handful of flag chambers to distribute at the range. Time to rummage through my old pistol/rifle boxes to see what chamber-flag treasures I find!Quote:
Originally Posted by kjeff91
:-)
Thanks guys! Sorry for all the questions, just don't want to get there and not be able to shoot or get DQ'd.
I think a gun bag for the rifle is really handy to bag the rifle when moving from stage to stage. We don't have to have one, but it makes the match easier.
Cy- I didn't double register, the boy is coming out too.
Awesome! See you both on Saturday.Quote:
Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand
I also have about 12 flags available.Quote:
Originally Posted by cysoto
Matthew
What's the deal with major and minor power factors for rifles at this match? Looking through this https://uspsa.org/viewer/RifleShotgunMultigunRules.pdf It shows 150pf for minor and 320pf major. Is everyone going to be scored minor? Just wondering.
Thanks,
Mike
USPSA/IPSC make this difference based on bullet weight and velocity but, since this is not a USPSA nor IPSC match and, in the interest of facilitating the scoring process, we decided to score every rifle Minor. It just makes things easier on our end.Quote:
Originally Posted by Destro Yakisoba
AR10 type rifles in any of its caliber variants are welcome but they are also scored minor.
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Ok great, just wanted to see how it was going to be scored.
See you guys Sat!
True for the most part. While Matt did not add it into the rules, we still have to enforce a maximum PF (300) and Muzzle velocity (3000 fps) so we don't ruin the steel.Quote:
Originally Posted by cysoto
Hey Guys, first post and first match in CO. Super stoked.
I am going to bust out my AR and give this match a go tomorrow!!!
Great comp today, it was a blast!! Always fun meeting new people too.
Agreed!! That was a fun match. I really liked the difficulty of the last stage with the 3 steel plates. Can't wait till the next one!!
Great fun. Stages were a not overly complex, but challenging.
I'd like to use the whole 200 yards of the last berm. We have the facility, let's use it to the full effect.
A great crowd. Not too many to slow things down, but enough to set up and tear down.
https://youtu.be/imUa6F6LE6c
Clip from one of my better-ish stages and my favorite stage.
Here are the results of today's match:
https://practiscore.com/results/new/52049
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Glad you enjoyed the stages. We certainly plan to use the whole 200 yards (It was about 100 and 130 on it today), but we still saw a lot of folks struggle on those plates. While we only had 7 of 49 go over 80 seconds, I surmise looking at the scores, if it was 200 it would have been 20+. Also, 30 seconds taking 3 misses was still a 0.5HF and lengthening distance on HF scoring really invites folks to game stages.Quote:
Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand
If I took that exact same course and stretched it out to 200 and 150, I would have made it be one of two ways. 1. 30 second fixed time (shoot as many points as you can in 30 seconds). That would mean your points is your score. or 2. A 60 second par time with the long steel designated as enhanced penalty targets (basically double miss penalties on the steel). Those are the ways to prevent gaming of the stage and keep the time per shooter reasonable for match flow. That was a 7.6 MOA target, at 200 it is a 5 MOA target. Our plan is to stay at 4 MOA or greater, so certainly within acceptable accuracy range.
I do have several stages that ONLY have 1 to 3 targets at 200 yards with multiple engagements and 6 to 15 rounds that take the paper out of the mix, which is really a better way to run the 200 yard berm for HF scoring, so I will put one of those together for April 1st and you all will be able to see that style and then give feedback to Matt which is preferable as we develop the flavor of the match.
I really like the 3 standards on the 100 yard berm mixed with the 2 hoser stages and the 200. Thanks all for coming out and helping make it a great day.
I forgot to announce at the shooters meeting that we have a precision rifle 2 gun test match (Precision rifle and a 9mm) on March 31 at CRC. The thread on that is here: https://www.ar-15.co/threads/166913-...ado-Rifle-Club
I had such a great time today guys, will def. be back for the next one.
Is there going to be a practiscore sign up like last time?
I'd say with the projected rain/snow tomorrow, there is a decent chance it will be cancelled.
Check www.crci.org before you head out Saturday morning.
Understood. Thanks!
Is the weather going to put the kibosh on this match, or is there still hope?
Kibosh indeed!
Match is canceled due to weather.
Matthew
Cancelled. There is snow on the ground and it is cold and snowing now. No sun expected, so the berms will be muddy, thus NO vehicles allowed on berms.
Sorry, but cancelled for tomorrow.
Action Rifle Shooters,
Some updates regarding match.
- Scoring - This is a volunteer sport and we need people who can run the scoring nooks. If you're not familiar with PractiScore, take 15 minutes and watch this tutorial on youtube.
- Match equipment - This is a rifle match, no pistols while competing.
- Staging table protocol
The staging table is for bagging and unbagging of rifle. It's likely there will not be space on the table for everyone to store their rifle at the same time. Use racks or keep rifles bagged and off table to give the current shooter and on-deck shooter space to get ready. If your rifle is too hot to bag after stage, use rack or table but bag it and move when possible.
Tables are intentionally placed against side berm to prevent of sweeping others during bagging & unbagging. No one should be between table and side berm.- Trash - Just like in the wilderness, "Pack it in, pack it out". CRC has limited trash service and it's expensive. The trash barrels on the berms have been removed as they blow over resulting in trash distributed over the county. The lath barrels should also not be used for trash.
See you at the match!
Matthew
Is the range going to dry out in time for tomorrow's match?
Match is currently GO!
Is this the match that is labelled "Action Rifle" in the CRCI website calendar for June 2?
Yes, that's the one. We had to change the name of the event but the rules and scoring are the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand
The weather this weekend is looking good. If you would like to join us, you can sign up online. Here is the registration link:
https://practiscore.com/crc-action-r...-2018/register
(registration closes on Friday, June 1 at 8:00pm).
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Out of curiosity, does 22lr count for PCC? Or does it need to be centerfire?
.22LR is not PCC. It will be hard, if not impossible for the RO to call hits on the longer steel. If that is all you have, ask Matt and he might let you shoot for no-score.Quote:
Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand
Yep, there may be some challenges but we'll try to work it out.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkCO
Matthew
I'm set for tomorrow. Thinking more of getting my daughter into it and a way to transition her in. Thanks for the accommodations.