I was merely thinking about reading a Playboy before going through the xray machine, but that's thinking!!![ROFL1]Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart
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I was merely thinking about reading a Playboy before going through the xray machine, but that's thinking!!![ROFL1]Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart
you think i told them i was gay they would give me a lady agent?
I'm going to refer to the machine as the DMD, see if the agent's face tells that they understand. Apparently, it's the nickname for them.
Dick Measuring Device
I'm wondering if I can get away with flipping a bit of finger?
H.
Back in the dark corners of my mind that spawn ideas when stuff I'm doing at work does not require much thought.
Yesterday, the one it came up with was, *if* the airlines and airports had come up with a TSA like security system
on their own, with no government assistance or dictates at all. Completely private, would there still be the furor?
it would never flyQuote:
Originally Posted by Marlin
Could you imagine if a NON-Federal agent had groped a 3 year old child while she is screaming "don't touch me!"?
and as I understand it the airports have the option of implementing their own private security measures in lieu of the TSA System after the initial 2 years
Here ya go, problem solved.....for now.
http://www.rockyflatsgear.com/
On a complete different note, have any of you ever read 1984 by George Orwell?
Heard on the news several law students to file suit against tsa i think for viloation of the 4th amendment
I hope so and I'm sure there's more to come.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mtn.man
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Originally Posted by Mtn.man
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Originally Posted by hollohas
talk about being torn...
I hope they sue the living shit out of the TSA and get BILLIONS for all of the travellers than have been traumatized, exploited and bullied by these overpaid walmart greeters
on the other hand...
it's our tax dollars that will pay any settlement
Lawsuits aren't always about monetary settlements. This can simply be a case of suing the feds because they have violated the constitution...so the courts say they can no longer use body scanners or pat downs unless they have reasonable suspicion that a person is hiding something deadly. Of course, either way, our tax dollars would pay the federal lawyers defending the case...Quote:
Originally Posted by Byte Stryke
I can't think of a more worthy way to spend my tax money, than to protect my rights.
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Originally Posted by Stuart
Word.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart
"Passengers have complained about the Close Encounters with TSA.
Some offer graphic accounts of genital contact, others tell of agents gawking or making inappropriate comments, and many express a general sense of powerlessness and humiliation. In general passengers are saying they are surprised by the intimacy of a physical search usually reserved for police encounters"
"Representatives fom various rights groups say reports about security agent's behavior run the gamut from respectful and apologetic to aggressive and hostile. Disabled travelers, parents traveling with children, victims of sexual assault and people with medical devices or health issues have expressed concerns about how the new policy affects their ability to fly."
"In other cases, passengers may be randomly selected for a physical search."
"For the protests this coming Wednesday, WeWontFly.com and OptOutDay.com support the boldest passengers to strip down to their underwear before entering the security line."
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Originally Posted by Byte Stryke
Keep in mind, the TSA people aren't Federal Agents, they are Transportation Security Officers...read, federally paid security. They do not have federal powers that Federal Agent's have.
Here is the list of minimal requirements for being a security officer:
Duties and Responsibilities: Implements security-screening procedures that are central to Transportation Security Administration (TSA) objectives and that will serve to protect the traveling public by preventing any deadly or dangerous objects from being transported onto an aircraft. Assists in conducting screening of passengers, baggage and cargo. May be required to conduct screening at any airport that provides commercial services to the public. Assists in monitoring the flow of passengers through the screening checkpoint to facilitate the orderly and efficient processing of passengers. Maintains close communication with supervisors regarding any issues that might reveal a weakness or vulnerable area of security screening that is discovered in the course of screening duties. Participates in information briefings concerning security-sensitive or classified information.
Key Skills
Pay scale:
- Ability to learn the theories, dynamics, and factors underlying the aviation screening process to enable authoritative and independent handling of screening functions.
- Ability to learn to operate basic security equipment such as X-ray machines and hand wands at screening checkpoints
- Ability to work with persons of diverse backgrounds
- Ability to communicate non-technical information effectively to others
$25,518 minimum to $44,007 maximum
Personally, I would prefer a transfer back to the private security. When TSA was developed, the PD I worked for had to provide security for the hotel that was taken over to hire these TSA security people. Long lines, lots of people and we were averaging 3-5 arrests a day for warrants, etc. for the people showing up to get hired.
during a discussion this morning a very good point was brought up.
IF*
you look at an electronic image of a nude child
OR
You touched the Genetalia of a Child
where would you be right now?
Why do we allow our government to do this to us and our children?
Will it be used in the future as a defense? ie:"I molest children because I was molested at an airport."
we know that child abuse perpetuates abuse... are we condoning it?
debate
I was staying out of this discussion for the past few days, but here I am wading in.
The two things that I think we did to improve airline and aircraft safety were to arm the pilots and secure the cockpit door. Anything past that was to satisfy the fear of the flying populace and keep an industry that is barely surviving from falling apart altogether, which would have made the government feel the need to intervene and get into the industry. Read: government airlines. After 9/11, the airports had (unarmed) National Guard standing around as a show of force to make the population feel safer. Did it make it safer? Not really.
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Originally Posted by OneGuy67
Ticket sales are down, Airlines scramble, increase fees, rates, charge extra for carry-ons, Checked bags, etc.. Further alienating travellers
NOW...
Citizen have a No Fly day... fewer people want to fly, people choose alternative transport modes in retaliation to as well as in fear of TSA (I have a friend just drove from NC to CO and Back because he has an artificial hip and is tired of Cavity searches)
Customer base is now even more alienated, Sales Plumet, Airlines collapse and scream for their bailouts, again...
so either we let these "Security guards" Feel us up or our taxes go up...
WTF?
It's NOT doing anything except making a mockery of us for the rest of the world.
I don't disagree a bit Byte. The industry is eating itself. Federal law actually allows airports to opt out of using TSA screeners and hire private security that have to be trained by TSA.
I don't like to fly anymore due to the security searches. I drove to Louisiana and to Missouri for training classes I had with the Guard instead of fly. When I do have to fly, I wear and carry as little as possible in order to try to get through security with minimal issues.
Hell, when my damn unit was deploying to Iraq in 2008, we all had to be screened, had to remove our boots and belts and some were hand searched with the wands and the old search methods. C'mon! Really!
I have said this before but its stupid enough to bear repeating
The Dumbest thing ever done by our government in regards to the TSA.
Screening Pilots...
Umm, They already have control of the aircraft and we GIVE them a GUN!
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There's not much that these scanners or pat downs will find that the metal detectors won't already find. They say that they can find ceramic knives that the metal detectors can't...well yes, that is true. But if anyone thinks that after 9/11 any red-blooded passengers on board a plane are going to let some ass-hat with a knife take the plane they are way off base. The ONLY reason that the 3 planes that succeeded did so is because prior to 9/11 terrorists that took planes always landed them. Once we found out that these guys weren't going to land the plane...well, the 4th plane proves what happens then.
There is no way in hell that any American plane will be hijacked ever again, unless it's by a rouge pilot already at the controls. There are too many Americans that will stand up against one terrorist, or ten, with box cutters. Like I said before, I fly almost every week and would not hesitate to attempt to stop a terrorist with a knife or any other weapon on a plane and I know many other's would do the same.
The TSA has touted that they have stopped hundreds of prohibited items from getting on planes with these devices already...mostly drugs. I bet if this goes on, even after ten years they won't be able to give one instance that these pat downs or machines stopped a guy with something like a bomb that could actually do any damage.
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Originally Posted by hollohas
trashcans at Airports all over the country are filled with beverage bottles to that testament.
Stopping people from buying reasonably priced beverages!
Saving one American at a time!
/sarcasm
This could be interesting.
Sanford Airport to opt out of TSA screening
This reminds me of the frog and boiling water scenario. What will the populace take before they revolt?
If selected, I'll be opting out on Wednesday. It is national opt-out day afterall. Just want to be patriotic. :D
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Originally Posted by Ah Pook
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The TSA points out that even if an airport decides to use a private firm for security, the screeners still must follow TSA guidelines. That would include using enhanced pat-downs and the full-body scanners if they are installed at the airport.
The ONLY reason someone hasn't charged a TSA officer with molestation is that they are "federal officials" etc etc.
let a security guard from "Acme Airport" security grab a child's genitalia.
National news
I know air travel is a needed service however I don' give a shit if they are starving for $$$. They fucked us a long time and if they can't get off their ass and say no to the TSA then let the CEO's do without their Million $$$ bonuses.
The 1's chargeing for check in bags report a 1+ billion$ profit for JUST last 1/4.
And Anton needs to get a girlfriend/boyfreind and a life. FUCK your cavity search A hole. Hip you can join him. Fags must love that shit...
and here is a lovely picture of some Jedi Squirrels
edit:
someone removed my squirrels :(
so
http://friskymongoose.com/wp-content...straction1.jpg
http://www.amcgltd.com/archives/squi...Web%20view.jpg
Comes out Tuesday. What Timing.
I think you missed the sarcasm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mtn.man
Better be cause I aint got time for pussies.
This has gotten a little out of hand I believe
I dunno what everyone is so upset about ...............
This is how Obama is going to bring healthcare costs down. Right beforte the picture was taken the TSA " doctor" told the gentleman to turn his head and cough.
see free hernia inspections. next up free prostate exams....
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http://blog.cleveland.com/pdworld/2007/10/train.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by patrick0685
That's what some of my gay friends say.Quote:
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I'm going to have to read back a few pages and see what Anton said that caused such an explosion.
I'm going to hold my tongue for the sake of my future on this board, but suffice it to say that if you can't recognize irony that's a failure on your part, not mine. Sadly, we probably agree on many issues, including ones that cannot reasonably be presented here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mtn.man
Kiss and make up or friggin walk away.
That was the biggest Burning derailed train-wreck picture I could find. If this escalates I am out of pictures!
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Originally Posted by Byte Stryke
Maybe Mr. TSA screener can give me some advice on hemerroid medication.
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Originally Posted by DeusExMachina
WAY too much information there Deus.