Army bans Pmags

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Originally Posted by brokenscout

Thermolds work fine,ask the Canadian Military:) Don't ask Don't tell should apply to PMags also:)

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You just want DADT reinstated for your personal gain :D

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Originally Posted by brokenscout

HA HA HA. I'll show you deliverance Southern Colorado style.:) lol
PS.I will invite Gunner so you will get Gunneria:)

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I wish teh laughing emoticons worked LOLOLOLOL

What a load of shit! If P-Mags work well for our guys, they should be allowed to use them no questions asked. Give 'em the best equipment we can, especially if the items are already in gov't inventory! I compare my P-Mags to my surplus GI mags, and there's no comparison. No doubt in my mind which one I'd rather use.

But, if they DO ban them, I wonder if they'll hit the surplus markets?

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Originally Posted by Hoser

Regular P-Mags dont work with the HK-416. Thats whats driving this.

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Swap out the regulars with the new ones. They work great!
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7227/7...2fa83659_b.jpg

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Originally Posted by spyder

Swap out the regulars with the new ones. They work great!
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7227/7...2fa83659_b.jpg

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Damn nice boomstick ya have there!

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Originally Posted by TheBelly

The PMAG NSN (1005-01-576-5164) costs $16.28 each and has a non-deteriorating shelf life. The USGI Mag NSNs (1005-01-561-7200) and (1005-00-921-5004) costs $9.13 each and has a non-deteriorating shelf life. At a cost difference of $7.15 each, you can outfit a 'normal' company element (~100 Soldeirs) for $11,396 (PMAG) vs. $6,391 (USGI).

Here's the 'So What:' You can buy all new PMAGs (expensive magazines) for the deployed strength of my entire BRIGADE for less than the cost of ONE Soldier's SGLI.

That's without getting into the nerdy parts of the US Army supply system, and trust me folks... I can nerd out about the Army's supply system.

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and what about the cost of a malfunction caused by an aluminum mag failure?

I'm pretty sure somebody got paid for this but I'm also pretty sure that the pmag which didnt even exist until 2007 or there abouts isnt the only dependable magazine on the market. Yes they work and yes they work well but its not like the pmag was the only way to keep the rifle running.

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Originally Posted by Byte Stryke

and what about the cost of a malfunction caused by an aluminum mag failure?

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Already been factored in.
Acceptable loss in the beancounters eyes. Expendable asset.

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Originally Posted by BPTactical

Already been factored in.
Acceptable loss in the beancounters eyes. Expendable asset.

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Great.. lets give the Beancounters M-4 with those craptastic USGIs and send them to ass-krackistan.

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Originally Posted by Byte Stryke

and what about the cost of a malfunction caused by an aluminum mag failure?

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Bert won't give the number so I will... 1x Soldier KIA:
$412,000 paid to family via SGLI includes burial cost... I'd like to factor in the rest, like how much it costs to fly the body home, transport to soldier's HOR, train up, equip and ship out a replacement soldier, and that's only if one is killed due to POS Mag failure.

I'm one of those guys who upon hitting the ground in the 'Stan threw almost everything into my toughbox- M86 CCO? Gone. R-Tard RVG (the ones with the pop out bipod)? Gone. Aluminum magazines? Gone. Standard issue buttstock? Gone. Replaced with EOTech 556, Magpul RVG, 7 PMAGs, and the MOE Buttstock... sorry, I'm a Magpul fanboy and I never once had any issue with anything they shipped me (at a massive discount no less) during long hours of training and operating in Afghanistan. Note: Never did I fire a single round in combat, but I was on a PSD team, Base Ops team, and BDOC team and got dirty, plus we built and operated a firing range- I probably used and abused my mags more than a port-o-john at Sturgis.