We just don't see eye to eye...

Definitely some good advice here, Ronin. Value every minute you have with him and realize you probably don't know everything. Someone (here, I think) said the other day "the older I get, the smarter my dad becomes." Truer words were never spoken.

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Originally Posted by Bailey Guns

You don't have to agree with the Old Man. He doesn't have to agree with you. No sense making waves and creating hard feelings and it won't hurt to swallow your pride a little when dealing with him and his views. Respect his views and the fact he's your father. There will come a time when you won't be able to have those discussions with him.

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Originally Posted by cstone

What a lonely world it would be if the only people here were others who believed exactly what I do.

Speak your peace when necessary. Reserve your words when appropriate. Respect your elders and honor your father, whether he deserves it or not.

Be safe.

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These. Don't let differences of opinion harm your relationship with your dad. You're entitled to your opinion, and he's entitled to his. You don't have your dad forever; enjoy having him around while you do.

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Originally Posted by Teufelhund

Did that make sense in your head before it reached your keyboard?

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Originally Posted by Bailey Guns

Yeah? Well in the context of this conversation and those involved your response is misplaced and ignorant. His old man isn't some POS that doesn't deserve his respect or allegiance. FFS. Try to keep up.

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Since when do things like respect honor and truth have asterisks in order to be applicable or not? At West Point cadets are taught from the get go that a man with no honor shall never command respect. (there isn't any special exclusion clause for parents) And lost honor is like death. Not reversible. Would you tell your son to respect a man who disrespected him?

If, and I said If, a man was disrespectful to his father or the other way around, the person that was disrespectful needs to apologize. This unconditional respect thing is no different than saying a woman should honor and respect a husband that beats her.

Hold all men to one standard. Enough of this blood hypocrisy.

And you might want to point out to your parent you may very well have a say in which retirement home he ends up in. Just sayin'.

I can't believe some of the more disrespectful posts in this thread, but I guess on a public forum you get all types. Props to those who gave you sound advice, including respect for blood relations, regardless of differences of politics. Enjoy having someone who cares enough to share his opinion with you, as long as the respect is mutual, both ways.

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Originally Posted by Bailey Guns

You don't have to agree with the Old Man. He doesn't have to agree with you. No sense making waves and creating hard feelings and it won't hurt to swallow your pride a little when dealing with him and his views. Respect his views and the fact he's your father. There will come a time when you won't be able to have those discussions with him.

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This is right on. He's your father man. You gotta respect him (and I'm sure you do), not necessarily his views - but the man for sure. Just discuss other things when you spend time together. He'll only be around so long. Make your memories with him good ones, not stupid shit like arguments about politics.

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Originally Posted by SA Friday

Or BS.

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Someone called?

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Since when do things like respect honor and truth have asterisks in order to be applicable or not? At West Point cadets are taught from the get go that a man with no honor shall never command respect. (there isn't any special exclusion clause for parents) And lost honor is like death. Not reversible. Would you tell your son to respect a man who disrespected him?

If, and I said If, a man was disrespectful to his father or the other way around, the person that was disrespectful needs to apologize. This unconditional respect thing is no different than saying a woman should honor and respect a husband that beats her.

Hold all men to one standard. Enough of this blood hypocrisy.

And you might want to point out to your parent you may very well have a say in which retirement home he ends up in. Just sayin'.

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This is a great way to introduce yourself to the other members of the forum... Enjoy your stay!

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Originally Posted by Ghosty

I can't believe some of the more disrespectful posts in this thread, but I guess on a public forum you get all types. Props to those who gave you sound advice, including respect for blood relations, regardless of differences of politics. Enjoy having someone who cares enough to share his opinion with you, as long as the respect is mutual, both ways.

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You'll have to excuse some of the posts... I'm assuming you don't understand the "relationship" some of us have with each other...

Well, hell, Melvin. I put my crayons away 50 years ago. Otherwise I'd try to draw a picture in order to help you understand because apparently the written word doesn't work out to well for ya.

Or maybe the Grand Wizard can explain it to you at the next clan meeting? (Unless YOU are the GW....that would explain some of your views.)

carl where do these people come from ?
melvin does not seem to respect much and he thinks that the people should not be on an even playing field as the gov ?
also im pretty sure that even at West Point honor is earned not given and i bet if you expressed complete disrespect for your parents that they would have a little talk with you about respect.