Could make a parody of The Office, set in the military. Like, whatever unit is responsible for coordinating all the paper needs of the entire military, run by a totally incompetent manager.Quote:
Originally Posted by sniper7
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Could make a parody of The Office, set in the military. Like, whatever unit is responsible for coordinating all the paper needs of the entire military, run by a totally incompetent manager.Quote:
Originally Posted by sniper7
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Its funny how a lot of people act like gays have only been serving in the military since the repeal of DADT, or that we are going to get overrun with gays now. News flash, gays have served in the military since the revolutionary war. Its not going to change anything, but this sensitivity training is a lot of bull shit. Gays in the military are not the issue.
My issue had nothing in particular to do with gays in the military (wasn't trying to hijack the thread) but about the fact that these BS training sessions are continually added to the point of distraction, and Hoosier, No, you just don't, and won't, get it.
What exactly is it that I'm not getting? That's what I was asking. I've seen it said several times that "if you didn't serve you can't understand." I'm not sure what aspect about service can't be conveyed. Please enlighten.Quote:
Originally Posted by Troublco
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I don't think you can't understand, you seem like a bright guy :). It's one of those undefined emotions I suppose. I know I served with gays, I just didn't KNOW. I have to now treat you in a different way than my other brothers because of who you decide to stick it to? I understood the sensitivity training with women, the supposed weaker sex and all, but this is just downright silly to me. Let's just weaken us a bit more by telling us we can't call someone a faggot anymore because they might just be one and break down on me. Whatever hurts the brotherhood in any way is FUBAR, that's my emotion. I honestly believe a civvy can understand that, I won't belittle your intelligence by saying otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoosier
For me, bottom line: RLTW (gay or not).
Not to highjack this thread, but... (translated: I'm highjacking this thread)
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Originally Posted by Hoosier
I've worked in both the civilian corporate and blue collar sector and served 20 yrs in the military.Quote:
Originally Posted by Troublco
In the corporate sectore there is the term "loyalty". In the military there is a "sense of duty". These might sound the same but they aren't anything alike.
Esprit de corps is something that I haven't seen anything in the civilian sector that even clomes close.
The camaraderie between brothers in arms has no civilian equivalent either. Sure, I've had camaraderie with coworkers in the civilian sector, but nothing like what I experienced in the military; it just doesn't exist.
The bonds you form, the pride of service you experience, the sacrifices you make for a cause much greater than yourself - and often times you family take on a nuance that just don't translate into the civilian sector.
They are unique flavors much like the difference between beef pot roast and prime rib roast. Same animal, right? Both are cooked somewhat similarly, right? Yet their flavors are significantly unique and trying to explain those differences and define them to someone who hasn't tasted both cuts of meat is this side of impossible.
So you wrestle when you're bored and huddle together for warmth when you're cold, but no one wants to do that with a gay guy? Getting warmer?
Byte, no one is having a meeting about sensitivity DURING combat. Come on.
By the way, no hard feelings from me. I know I haven't been in, and I also know that I shouldn't say anything or have an opinion, but sometimes I just can't keep my mouth shut. I apologize for those times.
as this is a very recent precedence I cannot say I have been in sensitivity training *IN* Combat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
I have, However, been in some ridiculously stupid meetings while a firefight/Shelling broke out.
The point actually is, why take time from troops training for combat to train for something as asinine as this.
For it being a Military they sure are worried about our troops offending someone.
This IS the Obama Military Byte, so pretty soon we'll be replacing lead rounds with rainbows, teddy bears and hugs and we will overwhelm the enemy with compassion for their hatred of us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Byte Stryke