Combat troops to get gay sensitivity training

[Irving]

Sometimes people who have not been in the military, while thinking they know just exactly what it's like, DON'T.

I should have been more clear, so you didn't think that I was saying that you were saying "I told you so." It was OneGuy who said that.

What I say still stands though. It's not gay people's fault that the military (or anyone) can not design an efficient training program. I haven't been in the military, and I have no idea what it is like. But I've seen pointless training sessions in nearly every job I've ever had. It's all the same thing. Nothing ever gets rewritten, they just stack all the new stuff on top of the old stuff, and now you are wasting hours and hours and hours on stuff that could be done in minutes.

Ever been to an all day meeting where you are told to share your deepest thoughts with strangers and even encouraged to cry if you need to? I have. It was a very stupid waste of money, organized by some moron in the corporation.

Now that you are retired, you should get on the ball and make up some lame ass "How to tolerate gays" seminar and start a consulting company. There is probably millions of dollars to be made if you get in early.

*I know that you have a real job and wouldn't do that.

[OneGuy67]

Once again, Stu, having never been in the military, you fail to understand the culture and attempt to equate it to something you are familiar with and that fails.


You will never understand until you are immersed in the military. Those here on the forum who have served, do understand what is being asked and the difficulties it presents.

Sorry Stu...

[Irving]

That's totally fine. I'm just having a hard time understand the outrage over meetings though.

[Ranger]

That's totally fine. I'm just having a hard time understand the outrage over meetings though.

I'm not sure about others here, but for me it's not so much the meetings themselves, it's THIS meeting that is irritating. A soldier going through gay sensitivity meetings is just a strange thought. I remember how much we would raz a guy in basic for looking down, asking him if he was checking out the guys ass in front of him - now he may very well be and it is just quite a change to have to accept that or face disciplinary actions.

There is an upside to all of this, though. I was once told about cottonmouths "don't get bit on the ass, nobody here is going to suck poison out of your ass" - well, now they might! There might be a whole new generation of medics for this task....

[Byte Stryke]

That's totally fine. I'm just having a hard time understand the outrage over meetings though.

in a Lesser, but somewhat parallel attempted comparison:
You are fighting a fire, Someone keeps interrupting you to train you how to polish the chrome on the firetruck.

Life or death combat situation that requires your full attention to the task at hand.
Not the task in your bunkmates hand.

[Troublco]

I know what you're trying to say, Stu. But I have to agree with OneGuy67; you can't understand the military until you've been in it. Pointless meetings of the sort you mention are just the tip of the iceberg. Nothing against you, just the way it is.

[SA Friday]

So, they swap the annual 'don't ask don't tell' policy training for the new 'sensitivity' training... All three of my deployments had policy change briefings while I was in a combat zone. This is much ado about nothing... It happens all the time. If is wasn't about allowing homosexuals go openly serve, it wouldn't have made the news and it wouldn't have its own thread.

[Hoosier]

you can't understand the military until you've been in it. Pointless meetings of the sort you mention are just the tip of the iceberg. Nothing against you, just the way it is.

What aspect of military service is such that it cannot be conveyed to someone who hasn't been there? The feeling of trusting others with your life? That you'll give 110% not because of the orders but so that you don't let your brothers down? The berating and screaming of boot camp? The trust that these guys will lay down their life for you?

It seems like the difference between sympathy and empathy.

H.

[sniper7]

What aspect of military service is such that it cannot be conveyed to someone who hasn't been there? The feeling of trusting others with your life? That you'll give 110% not because of the orders but so that you don't let your brothers down? The berating and screaming of boot camp? The trust that these guys will lay down their life for you?

It seems like the difference between sympathy and empathy.

H.

But the typical office has those same attributes. (Sarcasm)

[Hoosier]

But the typical office has those same attributes. (Sarcasm)

Could make a parody of The Office, set in the military. Like, whatever unit is responsible for coordinating all the paper needs of the entire military, run by a totally incompetent manager.

H.