We just letting this one die? Best thread in years.
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We just letting this one die? Best thread in years.
They have their idea of utopia (you know, the one where criminals say "I'd really like to kill some people today, but I couldn't possibly violate that darn gun ban"),Quote:
Originally Posted by theGinsue
why can't we have ours?
Yes it was, we are called These United States, not The United States.Quote:
Originally Posted by Teufelhund
These United States agreed to come together under the rules set forth in the constitution and the bill of rights including a very limited set of roles to be filled by the federal government.
The United States has FAR exceeded it's bounds and in doing so has eliminated freedom of choice in many areas for all citizens.
Each state is bound to the constitution and the bill of rights. Each state can also enact its own legislation not unlike an experiment to see how well the legislation works as long as that legislation does not violate the constitution or the bill of rights. This idea of experiments coincides with both freedom of choice in where we want to live and freedom of movement, if we don't like one states ruleset, we can move to a different state.
The federal government through it's all encompassing power has eliminated much of this freedom of choice, movement and the opportunity for states to experiment with differing legislation.
For example - I don't have an issue with the people residing in Massachusetts wanting to try universal healthcare for themselves. I think it will be an interesting experiment to see how it works in Massachusetts and Massachusetts alone (being a sovereign person I hope their experiment fails miserably). I have a choice and my choice is to not subject myself to government single payor healthcare so I live in Colorado, if I wanted single payor I'd move to Massachusetts.
I have an ENORMOUS problem with the federal government dictating to all the other states what their healthcare policies will be. The feds have eliminated my choice to live in Colorado away from single payor healthcare.
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Originally Posted by roberth
This all does remind me of what a buddy of mine said one of his teachers at West Point was ranting about one day during one of his lectures. He said something to the effect of Washington D.C. is a horrible location for a national capital, and that Denver would be a more suitable capital from a strategic point of view. I agree, and our new United States capital should be based here or CO Springs as the strategic and logistical POV is great. Perhaps once reorganized Cheyenne Mtn could become our new country's military hub as it is more protected than the current (Pentagon).
The only question I have is how would this hypothetical succession work? Would it be by an armed coup? Is it possible to achieve peacefully? How do you deal with all the lefties living in the mountain states that love it here and would refuse to leave? So many questions as to how to get it off the ground, but I would say the sooner the better! [Beer]
This shouldn't be a pursued goal but a ready plan. I love my country. But if my country didn't have the strength to survive I would join in union with my like minded brothers to fight tyranny and foreign aggression. Long live our liberty and long live these sovereign United States!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronin13