Really? I thought you could conceal carry in CO in your car without a license...hmm, oh well. Either way, I have my CCL and live in NM so it doesn't apply to me but thanks for correcting that if its true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wulf202
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Really? I thought you could conceal carry in CO in your car without a license...hmm, oh well. Either way, I have my CCL and live in NM so it doesn't apply to me but thanks for correcting that if its true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wulf202
It is pretty darn close http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc...zGGp4Jl6PFobTQQuote:
Originally Posted by Wulf202
That's completely true, there's a separate law allowing that. You can also carry on any property you have permission.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuffCyclist
castle doctrine doesn't apply, not even close.Quote:
Originally Posted by battle_sight_zero
Lots of people have guns, presumably we are all bound by the rules of law though. And it's not about showing weakness. If the agent had answered truthfully, that the motorist was not being detained, he knew that the guy would have just driven off.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuffCyclist
I did not quote castle doctrine. My link is from the Denver Bar Association that includes tips if you are contacted by police. Never consent to a search never. Be polite and respectful to the officer but do not consent. I feel they gave some good advice and dont see a problem with it http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc...zGGp4Jl6PFobTQ
I agree with the point, always be respectful of authority but if you know your right dont bend to it.
You can carry without a CCW in Colorado, but not because your vehicle is an extension of your home.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuffCyclist
So this just about sums things up:
I was making a counter point, not a reply on yours. Your point is valid but not relevant to the derailed discussion really relevant to the OP but we're on page 2 so we should be far off tack by now.Quote:
Originally Posted by battle_sight_zero
Usually, a detention on reasonable suspicion (the so-called "Terry Stop") isn't subject to a time limit set in stone. 15 minutes was pretty easy to get, and anything beyond that had to be "reasonable" (there's that word again) in view of the totality of the circumstances.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rabid
Introducing an international border into the mix changes things. SCOTUS has held that actions taken in the name of border security within some distance of the border (50 miles rings a bell for me) can be permissible under the 4th Amendment, which would not be allowed to a police officer in Colorado or Nebraska or some other place without an international border. But I don't know if the time limit changes for immigration checkpoints.
The way i understand it reasonable suspicion does not fall under immigration or DUI check points. Just because it has been known to happen in an area before does not give reasonable suspicion you are drunk or an illegal alien.Quote:
Originally Posted by centrarchidae
And i did ask a lawyer friend of mine, you need to ask if you are being detained and if you are free to go because if you answer any question it could be seen as a voluntary hold on your rights. Don't the loop holes on your rights make you feel all warm and fuzzy? [Flower]