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Originally Posted by Bailey Guns

I'll tell all of you who think otherwise that ANYONE (that means nynco...who's now on my ignore list) who needs "health care", whatever form that may be, can get it free of charge.

My wife is a RN at a metro-area private hospital. She works in the ICU. Most of her patients are there because of poor lifestyle choices...drug abuse, alcohol abuse, drug and alcohol abuse. The majority of her patients are indigent and don't have health insurance. They get the same level of care that paying patients get. If you argue otherwise, you're totally ignorant of how the system works and you don't deserve to be heard.

The paying patients (and their insurance companies) subsidize the non-paying patients. That's part of the reason health insurance/health care IS expensive for those that can pay it.

It mimics the rest of life. The taxpayers subsidize the tax receivers. We're rapidly approaching the point where the takers are going to outnumber the payers. When that happens you liberals are going to be in for a rude awakening.

BTW: If you guys would stop quoting nynco the "Ignore" function would work much better. :)

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It seems he's on quite a few peoples ignore lists, i would put in my two cents but i cant process all of his stupid

Since NYNCO yearns for "The Good Old Days" of Eisenhower........

So Rico what was that quote in reference too? What was Eisenhower addressing at that time?

Dont mean anything, I just thought you would like to see us go back to the days of Dwight, you know the 50's and 60's when women knew their place and so did people of color. Ahhh you must pine for those days of the past.

nynco,,, All I have to say is BULLSHIT.A few years back when I had the knarly shit in my foot, I ended up in the er with no insurance. They treated my foot made me stay for 2 days, wanted me to stay longer, but that's another story. over $17,000 later, made arrangements to pay and that was it. My foot will be mine again, in about another 6 months. The only morons that want oblahblahcare are the ones THAT DON'T WANT TO PAY.In fact, the Lady we delt with, seem very happy that we were doing it that way instead of insurance, Less paperwork and,except for a small finance charge, the same as cash.

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Originally Posted by nynco

I blahblahblah socialism blah blah blah bullshit bullshit bullshit

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You define the sentiment "You cant fix stupid"

Actually when I posted the hread I was speaking to the misinformation she'd been fed about some.sort of voucher program shed be forced into that I'd never heard of. And I stayed informed this election season.

As far as her voting for Obama I told.her I understood, people vote for their own wallet. That was the end of.it. we had more.beers, more laughs and the world continued to rotate and revolve.


Nynco please stfu. You've thoroughly derailed this thread and many others just because you buy into the crap they're selling you. I on the other hand rather enjoyed the country I grew up in and would like to preserve it for my posterity. If you feel socialism is the way, please feel free to relocate to a nation that is oppressive enough for your tastes. Leave my country alone.

Well said.

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Originally Posted by nynco

Don't even try to use Greece as an example of anything liberal. Their economy is going off a cliff because they have no manufacturing base and the greeks decided to try massive gov cuts like you guys advocate. It sent the country into a down spiral. Just like everyone warns will happen if we listen to the GOP and cut spending by a massive amount.

Germany on the other hand has done exactly what I think is the right thing to do. Same with most all the Scandinavia socialist countries. They are booming right now.

Healthcare should not even be an issue of a safety net. We need to make medicare a base level for all regardless of income and then if you are rich, buy better than that. You will see the economy boom as small business is lifted from that burden and individuals can follow their dreams. Much the same reason the 50s boomed once the kids did not have to pay for the parents thanks to Soc Sec.

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When was the last time the USA actually manufactured something?

Germany has finally done Economically what it couldn't do Militarily, Conquer Europe.

As for the rest, it is a sad day when i need to show ID AND pay my deductible up front, while 2 seats over Undocumented Worker is not held responsible for shit. CA is the classic example, a state in debt due in part to a health care system tits up from attending to ILLEGAL Aliens and Anchor baby families.

My personal opinion is that if an X-ray cost $300 instead of $7,000 then more people would be able to pay. Stop trying to put a band aid on an open wound. The problem is the cost of healthcare, and all of the other problems stem from that. Cancer is never going to be cured even though there is a cure out there because it is too profitable. Do you think companies and hospitals want to cure their cash cow? My mom just got a new chemo drug that totaled $16,000 for one round.